I-751 Aug 2012 filers

[Yurika & Jim 77]

Just mailed off my application today, so now to sit back and wait for the NOA1 and hope that we didn't do anything wrong. We spent ages yesterday checking and re-checking the mailing address, making sure we had included everything, and that the check was clearly written, dated and signed. Hopefully this'll be a simple process.

Which service center?

[ashbey 0]

We just mailed our package today by USPS Express Mail today. I hope everything goes smoothly without problems. Below are what we sent in. I am not sure it will be enough...

Contents include:

o This covering letter

o Photocopy of Beneficiary’s Permanent Resident Card (Front and Back).

o Form I-751: Petition to Remove the Conditions of Residence, w/ History Address List.

o Photocopy of 3 AR-11 Aliens Change of Address Cards.

o Photocopy of Marriage Certificate.

o Photocopy of Petitioner and Beneficiary’s Passports, Driver Licenses and SSN Cards.

o Two Affidavit Letters from Petitioner’s cousin and Beneficiary’s mother.

Bona Fide Marriage evidences:

 Three Joint Apartment Leases w/ court files for “Sky Tower” and rental Insurances.

 Photocopy of 2011 IRS Joint 1040 and Tax Transcripts.

 Photocopy of 2010 IRS Joint 1040 and Tax Transcripts.

 Photocopy of 2010, 2011 Petitioner and Beneficiary’s W2 and 1099 Tax Forms.

 Photocopy of 2010, 2011 and 2012 Petitioner and Beneficiary’s Paystubs.

 Photocopy of Joint Car Registration and Joint Car Insurances.

 Photocopy of Joint Car Loan Application and Joint Car Loan Statements.

 Photocopy of Joint Health Insurance, Life Insurance, Dental Insurance, Personal 401K.

 Photocopy of Joint Debit Cards, Credit Cards and Checks.

 Photocopy of Joint & Personal checking accounts, saving accounts, credit cards and brokerage statements.

 Photocopy of Mutual own and management of a LLC company in XXX state.

 Photocopy of Utility Bills including: electric, TV service, internet, land phone, cellphone, etc.

 Photocopy of travel and recreation hotel bills, medical bills and Costco bill.

 Photocopy of online shopping receipts, postcards, veterinarian postcard and XXXX membership.

 Photos of Petitioner and Beneficiary with families.

[proceedwith 0]

Hi. I'm wondering if anyone here can give me some insights:

I'm trying to file RoC by August 24th, with the waiver for divorce, with the intent to send the decree in response to a request for evidence. I've been separated from my wife since late April, but because of unexpected obligations with work, she's taken a long time in sending me the documents she promised to send, and the hassle over that and other things have prevented me from being well-prepared in time.

I'm receiving my documents only on the 22nd, and could still scramble to send them in in time. While making the deadline seems preferable, from what I've read on the forums, it doesn't seem like a few days late would be a real problem in practice, particularly given that I have a good explanation why it wasn't my fault. I'm not 100% sure though?

Also, I'm confused by some things it says in the instructions for the I-751. It seems to say affidavits are necessary, while on the internet I've mostly read that affidavits are only necessary if you don't have other documentation.

And under when to file (for the waiver case), it says the following:

"You may file this petition at any time after you are granted conditional resident status and before you are removed."

So does that mean that although removal proceedings theoretically start at the second anniversary, if you send it later than that, they can't fault you as long as you haven't actually been deported? Or does it only mean I could have sent it in before the 90-day window? I'm confused.

I've been trying to consult a lawyer about these things, but in the mean time, I'd greatly appreciate any answers people may have.

Edited August 22, 2012 by proceedwith

[tom&tanya 48]

Hi. I'm wondering if anyone here can give me some insights:

I'm trying to file RoC by August 24th, with the waiver for divorce, with the intent to send the decree in response to a request for evidence. I've been separated from my wife since late April, but because of unexpected obligations with work, she's taken a long time in sending me the documents she promised to send, and the hassle over that and other things have prevented me from being well-prepared in time.

I'm receiving my documents only on the 22nd, and could still scramble to send them in in time. While making the deadline seems preferable, from what I've read on the forums, it doesn't seem like a few days late would be a real problem in practice, particularly given that I have a good explanation why it wasn't my fault. I'm not 100% sure though?

Also, I'm confused by some things it says in the instructions for the I-751. It seems to say affidavits are necessary, while on the internet I've mostly read that affidavits are only necessary if you don't have other documentation.

And under when to file (for the waiver case), it says the following:

"You may file this petition at any time after you are granted conditional resident status and before you are removed."

So does that mean that although removal proceedings theoretically start at the second anniversary, if you send it later than that, they can't fault you as long as you haven't actually been deported? Or does it only mean I could have sent it in before the 90-day window? I'm confused.

I've been trying to consult a lawyer about these things, but in the mean time, I'd greatly appreciate any answers people may have.

Why put yourself in the position to have to ask for a waiver? It seems crazy to me. I would file on time with whatever I had at the time and pay the fee. Then wait for a possible RFE. It's a much better "problem" than not filing on time!!

Send it overnight with tracking you you can prove you filed on time. I used USPS overnight since FedEx and UPS cannot deliver to a PO Box.

[proceedwith 0]

Thanks. To be clear, the waiver is the one where the marriage ended through divorce. My divorce isn't final yet, but will be in a few months. My understanding, based on the memo here (http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/Laws/Memoranda/Static_Files_Memoranda/2009/i-751_Filed_%20Prior_Termination_3apr09.pdf) had been that I should file with a request for a waiver of the joint filing requirement, but without sending the divorce decree until the RFE (since I don't have the decree yet). Did I get confused?

I don't have a good idea of how I should be trading off making a hasty submission vs. being a few days late. If I'm going to have to send in the divorce decree later anyway, does that mean I'll have an opportunity to send more evidence of bona fides later regardless? Or is there a risk that they'll just reject it?

Edited August 22, 2012 by proceedwith

[proceedwith 0]

Also, thanks for the USPS overnight tip. I guess there isn't an alternative address (for California) that I could FedEx/UPS the package to, that isn't a PO Box?

Do they need to have it the day before the 2 year anniversary, or is it good enough if they receive it on the day of the 2 year anniversary itself?

Edited August 22, 2012 by proceedwith

[FrostyMist 1]

Which service center?

California.

[tom&tanya 48]

Thanks. To be clear, the waiver is the one where the marriage ended through divorce. My divorce isn't final yet, but will be in a few months. My understanding, based on the memo here (http://www.uscis.gov...tion_3apr09.pdf) had been that I should file with a request for a waiver of the joint filing requirement, but without sending the divorce decree until the RFE (since I don't have the decree yet). Did I get confused?

I don't have a good idea of how I should be trading off making a hasty submission vs. being a few days late. If I'm going to have to send in the divorce decree later anyway, does that mean I'll have an opportunity to send more evidence of bona fides later regardless? Or is there a risk that they'll just reject it?

I really believe you are making a huge mistake not filing on time and something you are going to regret. I hope I'm wrong for your sake.

[proceedwith 0]

Getting something in on the 24th, which is the deadline day, would still be feasible. (That is, sending it the 23rd and it gets there the 24th. This is what I currently intend to do.) Do you think that would itself be too late? Getting something in on the 23rd would probably not be feasible.

Have there been any known cases of people getting their application in on the deadline day, or even say 1-3 days after, and getting rejected on that basis? Particularly if it happened because of reasons beyond their own control?

Edited August 22, 2012 by proceedwith

[Yurika & Jim 77]

Getting something in on the 24th, which is the deadline day, would still be feasible. (That is, sending it the 23rd and it gets there the 24th. This is what I currently intend to do.) Do you think that would itself be too late? Getting something in on the 23rd would probably not be feasible.

Have there been any known cases of people getting their application in on the deadline day, or even say 1-3 days after, and getting rejected on that basis? Particularly if it happened because of reasons beyond their own control?

So, your GC expires on Aug 24th?

Anyway, I think you should better make new post instead of asking here in Aug filers thread...

[proceedwith 0]

Yes, it expires the 24th. Do you think if my application arrives the 24th, that's too late? I'll see if I have time to make a new thread.

[hoppla 1]

Updating hoppla's Bio date

Thanks!! I don't want to mess up the list

[ashbey 0]

We sent our packages to CSC. It seems take a long time to get news now than 2010. Last time I checked at 2010 right after I received my 2 YR GC and it only takes 2 months to approve the 10 yr gc.

We just mailed our package today by USPS Express Mail today. I hope everything goes smoothly without problems. Below are what we sent in. I am not sure it will be enough...

Contents include:

o This covering letter

o Photocopy of Beneficiary’s Permanent Resident Card (Front and Back).

o Form I-751: Petition to Remove the Conditions of Residence, w/ History Address List.

o Photocopy of 3 AR-11 Aliens Change of Address Cards.

o Photocopy of Marriage Certificate.

o Photocopy of Petitioner and Beneficiary’s Passports, Driver Licenses and SSN Cards.

o Two Affidavit Letters from Petitioner’s cousin and Beneficiary’s mother.

Bona Fide Marriage evidences:

 Three Joint Apartment Leases w/ court files for “Sky Tower” and rental Insurances.

 Photocopy of 2011 IRS Joint 1040 and Tax Transcripts.

 Photocopy of 2010 IRS Joint 1040 and Tax Transcripts.

 Photocopy of 2010, 2011 Petitioner and Beneficiary’s W2 and 1099 Tax Forms.

 Photocopy of 2010, 2011 and 2012 Petitioner and Beneficiary’s Paystubs.

 Photocopy of Joint Car Registration and Joint Car Insurances.

 Photocopy of Joint Car Loan Application and Joint Car Loan Statements.

 Photocopy of Joint Health Insurance, Life Insurance, Dental Insurance, Personal 401K.

 Photocopy of Joint Debit Cards, Credit Cards and Checks.

 Photocopy of Joint & Personal checking accounts, saving accounts, credit cards and brokerage statements.

 Photocopy of Mutual own and management of a LLC company in XXX state.

 Photocopy of Utility Bills including: electric, TV service, internet, land phone, cellphone, etc.

 Photocopy of travel and recreation hotel bills, medical bills and Costco bill.

 Photocopy of online shopping receipts, postcards, veterinarian postcard and XXXX membership.

 Photos of Petitioner and Beneficiary with families.

[Yurika & Jim 77]

Yes, it expires the 24th. Do you think if my application arrives the 24th, that's too late? I'll see if I have time to make a new thread.

I think if they receive on the 24th, you are fine...

Adding FrostyMist and ashbey to CSC list @ashbey, yes, 2 years ago, processing time for CSC was 1.5 - 3 months, for VSC was 2 - 4.5 months...

California Service Center (14 applicants)

VJName............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics.....Approved....

CENTURYMAN..........08/01/12........08/02/12.......09/07/12.......--/--/--....(early bio 8/20)

MRSOO...............08/02/12........08/03/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

NICA_IN_LOVE........08/04/12........08/06/12.......08/28/12.......--/--/--....

NISHI...............08/07/12........08/09/12.......09/10/12.......--/--/--....

BETH AND JOHN ......08/07/12........08/10/12.......09/13/12.......--/--/--....

ROGUE320............08/07/12........--/--/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

BRUIN85.............08/10/12........08/14/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

LOSTINLOVE03........08/10/12........--/--/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

BRACHICAGO..........08/14/12........--/--/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

KATIN...............08/15/12........08/16/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

PII SAM.............08/15/12........--/--/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

DUKEOFYORK..........08/20/12........--/--/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

FROSTYMIST..........08/21/12........--/--/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

ASHBEY..............08/22/12........--/--/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

Vermont Service Center (8 applicants)

VJName............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics.....Approved....

HOPPLA..............08/04/12........08/07/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

AMIT-N-MELODY.......08/09/12........08/13/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

TOM&TANYA...........08/10/12........08/14/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

CAN2US..............08/11/12........08/??/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

KATIE & SIFA........08/13/12........08/16/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

BOKGAO..............08/16/12........--/--/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

ANGELBLU............08/18/12........--/--/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

CANADIANDGGAL.......08/20/12........--/--/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

IMPORTANT!

* Make sure that your VJ Text Editor setting is set to Rich Text Editor.

* Go to the MOST RECENTLY POSTED VERSION of this list (go to the last post and scroll UP) and "Reply" to it, deleting the "quote" tags in your reply.

* Please DO NOT change the font, font size, add colors, stuff like that.

* Please PREVIEW before posting to make sure it is properly formatted.

* Please check that you have not deleted anyones NAME & DATA.

Date of I-751 = The Date you sent your application

NOA Date = The Receipt Date on your original NOA letter

Biometrics = The Date of your biometrics appointment

Approved = The Date your case was approved

* Please Capitalize your VJ Name when adding it to the list.

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[Bruin85 9]

Biometrics appt is 9/11/12. Will try an early walk-in next week.

California Service Center (14 applicants)

VJName............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics.....Approved....

CENTURYMAN..........08/01/12........08/02/12.......09/07/12.......--/--/--....(early bio 8/20)

MRSOO...............08/02/12........08/03/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

NICA_IN_LOVE........08/04/12........08/06/12.......08/28/12.......--/--/--....

NISHI...............08/07/12........08/09/12.......09/10/12.......--/--/--....

BETH AND JOHN ......08/07/12........08/10/12.......09/13/12.......--/--/--....

ROGUE320............08/07/12........--/--/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

BRUIN85.............08/10/12........08/14/12.......09/11/12.......--/--/--....

LOSTINLOVE03........08/10/12........--/--/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

BRACHICAGO..........08/14/12........--/--/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

KATIN...............08/15/12........08/16/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

PII SAM.............08/15/12........--/--/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

DUKEOFYORK..........08/20/12........--/--/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

FROSTYMIST..........08/21/12........--/--/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

ASHBEY..............08/22/12........--/--/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

Vermont Service Center (8 applicants)

VJName............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics.....Approved....

HOPPLA..............08/04/12........08/07/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

AMIT-N-MELODY.......08/09/12........08/13/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

TOM&TANYA...........08/10/12........08/14/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

CAN2US..............08/11/12........08/??/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

KATIE & SIFA........08/13/12........08/16/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

BOKGAO..............08/16/12........--/--/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

ANGELBLU............08/18/12........--/--/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

CANADIANDGGAL.......08/20/12........--/--/12.......--/--/12.......--/--/--....

IMPORTANT!

* Make sure that your VJ Text Editor setting is set to Rich Text Editor.

* Go to the MOST RECENTLY POSTED VERSION of this list (go to the last post and scroll UP) and "Reply" to it, deleting the "quote" tags in your reply.

* Please DO NOT change the font, font size, add colors, stuff like that.

* Please PREVIEW before posting to make sure it is properly formatted.

* Please check that you have not deleted anyones NAME & DATA.

Date of I-751 = The Date you sent your application

NOA Date = The Receipt Date on your original NOA letter

Biometrics = The Date of your biometrics appointment

Approved = The Date your case was approved

* Please Capitalize your VJ Name when adding it to the list.

* When you're on this list, please come back to update your information accordingly.

* If you cannot add your information yourself, please ask another VJ member to help you do so.