Think Really Hard Before Marrying Someone from MENA

[sachinky 465]

I am not even an American (yet, I guess) and even I find it outrageous.

[Mithra 1,185]

What I find outrageous is that she's stuck on proving that these medical journals and stats exist and is ignoring the fact that her husband thinks she isn't good enough to have a child with. Honestly, I have no idea how she thought announcing that here was a good idea.

Edited March 14, 2012 by Mithra

[Mithra 1,185]

Well if he just said that (you would suck as a mom) then she wouldn't have come here to talk about it (I would hope). Actually I'm not even sure why she shared what she shared. But now that she did share it, we're all going to talk about it.

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Well if he just said that (you would suck as a mom) then she wouldn't have come here to talk about it (I would hope).

Why not? I can't imagine anything more offensive than being told you'd be a crappy parent. Even people who don't want to be parents will probably get a little riled up if they're told they'd be bad at it. What could be more natural to the human condition than having and raising a child?

And yet, it is true... that lots of people would make bad parents. Maybe Olivia's one of them.

[Mithra 1,185]

Just being told you would make a horrible mother isn't Egypt/MENA related enough to share, lol. You would make a horrible mother just because you're American and not Muslim = MENA enough to be share worthy. It's all about being MENA/Egypt relevant.

Anyways, I think what's gotten our panties in a bunch is that we can't get over how in denial she is about the whole thing. And that she'd give up trying to be a mom so easily. Even potentially sucky moms still want to be moms.

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Anyways, I think what's gotten our panties in a bunch is that we can't get over how in denial she is about the whole thing. And that she'd give up trying to be a mom so easily. Even potentially sucky moms still want to be moms.

Maybe she's just not that bright.

Which would be a good reason to not be a parent.

[Mithra 1,185]

You've got a point there.

Maybe she's just not that bright.

Which would be a good reason to not be a parent.

[tany1157 161]

Well if he just said that (you would suck as a mom) then she wouldn't have come here to talk about it (I would hope). Actually I'm not even sure why she shared what she shared. But now that she did share it, we're all going to talk about it.

I think a comment I made around page 7 or 8 inspired it. I would not compromise the child thing, but that is just me. I do see the point that everyone is making. Even though I do agree with most of the points, I still have a hard time "jumping on the bandwagon" because I don't really know much else about them. I know they have been together a long time. Is it possible he has been just using her this whole time? I don't know. I know she made this public, and probably kicking herself now, but I do think everyone has gotten their point across. What she does with the info is her business. I just hope that whatever she decides to do, she doesn't do anything that will make her look back 30 years from now with regret.

Edited March 14, 2012 by tany1157

[William33 110]

One post removed at the request of the contributor and one quoting it.

Edited March 15, 2012 by William33

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

What I find outrageous is that she's stuck on proving that these medical journals and stats exist and is ignoring the fact that her husband thinks she isn't good enough to have a child with. Honestly, I have no idea how she thought announcing that here was a good idea.

I think she is just desperately in love with him and would rather rationalise away his bullshit then come to terms with the fact he is a creep. He was pretty much a creep when she was in the process of petitioning him. Maybe he is just glorious in the romance department and he is just able to sell her any bill of goods. I feel sorry for Olivia because I think she is a nice person totally in love with a manipulative sociopath. The minute he told her shes not good enough to be the mother of his kids, she needed to book it. He came with an IR1 if I am not mistaken and needs to get that golden citizenship ticket to be able to import a wife that he is ok with impregnating. The marriage will be over soon enough ( when he gets what he wants) so honestly, we should be kind to Olivia. Olivia, its not you, its him. Hes a twit and a user and has been this whole time. I dont think people really mean to imply that you are not bright. I think they just can see that hes a creep and have seen it for a while and you are making excuses for him that sound.. well.. not very bright. He is using you and when he gets what he needs hes out of there. He will then marry who feels DESERVES his seed and you need to either come to terms with that now and be willing to deal with it later or get out while you can. Hes not staying with you. Hes playing you. And you will see that the evil truth will come to pass later. If you want to stay in this, then just make some good friends, get a support group to help you survive whats inevitably coming. When you finally do meet a man who is not an arrogant jerkoff who honors you with wanting you to be the mother of his child, this will all seem like a bad dream.. At least you didnt get pregnant and me made you abort using this rationale. Imagine how you would feel then

PS. My daughter is 7. Her dad was MENA and before I got pregnant he was all lovey love. When I got pregnant, he said to me WHAT MADE YOU THINK I WOULD WANT A BABY WITH YOU? IF I HAD A CHILD IT WOULD BE WITH SOMEONE FROM MY OWN CULTURE. Needless to say, I left him 6 months pregnant and had my daughter and I have never regretted it since. The post mena import export relationship I got in afterwords turned out to be a total fantasy lie on his end ( my fantasy..his lie) and I got screwed.. ( You cant blame a girl for trying) But I have always been so happy that I had my kids and didnt miss out on being a mom due to some guys selfishness.

Keep your chin up. Please rethink this situation before your eggs are rotten and nothing will hatch..

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

I think a comment I made around page 7 or 8 inspired it. I would not compromise the child thing, but that is just me. I do see the point that everyone is making. Even though I do agree with most of the points, I still have a hard time "jumping on the bandwagon" because I don't really know much else about them. I know they have been together a long time. Is it possible he has been just using her this whole time? I don't know. I know she made this public, and probably kicking herself now, but I do think everyone has gotten their point across. What she does with the info is her business. I just hope that whatever she decides to do, she doesn't do anything that will make her look back 30 years from now with regret.

I think I will tell the story of Cheba Djenet. There is a song called Matajoubouliche which means take good care of my baby. Its a rai song and pretty famous. she is a rai star. Anyway, she fell in love with this married man named Marwan who constantly cheated on his wife with her and then cheated on her with other women. She became pregnant twice by him and he made her abort twice. And yet shes still with him. She loves him, she adores him and now shes in her mid 30s.Pretty soon she wont be able to have children. And shes wasted her whole youth with this marwan fellow. Shes a very famous rai singer. Anyway, shes made plenty of money singing but as the years pass, she has no kids. She has no babies. She knows Marwan wont marry her because he wont even have a baby with her. You see there are users with mena girls too who waste their time and their lives and then either marry someone suitable and have kids with them and string the other woman along. These women who get strung are very very very sad in the end and always end up alone because most of the time these men at 50 unlike too much in the US can marry a girl who is in her 2os.Shes mena and hes mena.. and its true even in their case. He didnt think she was good enough to have kids with and didnt

Olivia, no one wants to see you end up played and alone and having lost your ability to have kids. I have had someone waste my life and my time and make me sick and its not fun. Please dont see it as people being mean. See it as sage advice.. Please listen to it and dont lose your chance ok honey? Sorry for the stupid story but its a true one.

[Orando 57]

This is an interesting read, keep your heads up ladies! I would feel disrespected if my wife did not want me to be the father of her children. I would not necessarily leave her, that may be the beginning of the end and our marriage would be far from a marriage I felt good about.

Edited March 16, 2012 by Orando

[Sarah B 26]

Thank song is fabulous. I <3 chebba djanet

I think I will tell the story of Cheba Djenet. There is a song called Matajoubouliche which means take good care of my baby. Its a rai song and pretty famous. she is a rai star. Anyway, she fell in love with this married man named Marwan who constantly cheated on his wife with her and then cheated on her with other women. She became pregnant twice by him and he made her abort twice. And yet shes still with him. She loves him, she adores him and now shes in her mid 30s.Pretty soon she wont be able to have children. And shes wasted her whole youth with this marwan fellow. Shes a very famous rai singer. Anyway, shes made plenty of money singing but as the years pass, she has no kids. She has no babies. She knows Marwan wont marry her because he wont even have a baby with her. You see there are users with mena girls too who waste their time and their lives and then either marry someone suitable and have kids with them and string the other woman along. These women who get strung are very very very sad in the end and always end up alone because most of the time these men at 50 unlike too much in the US can marry a girl who is in her 2os.Shes mena and hes mena.. and its true even in their case. He didnt think she was good enough to have kids with and didnt

Olivia, no one wants to see you end up played and alone and having lost your ability to have kids. I have had someone waste my life and my time and make me sick and its not fun. Please dont see it as people being mean. See it as sage advice.. Please listen to it and dont lose your chance ok honey? Sorry for the stupid story but its a true one.

[Ban Hammer 13,282]

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[Ban Hammer 13,282]

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it will therefore remain closed. thank you for your understanding.