Question on N-400 part 8, letter D

[ricavega 0]

Dear all, I hope i can get an answer to this question:

I am about to apply for naturalization, there is a question about the place and date my spouse became a US citizen. He acquired it through his parents, unfortunately, his parents lost his naturalization document.

Can I leave this blank and make a note that we don't have this info and that copy of his US passport is included?

Does he have to apply for N-565 Application for Replacement Naturalization/Citizenship Document prior to applying for my naturalization? If possible, we dont want to go thru this step bec just to request for it is $345.

Thank you in advance!

Rica Vega

[Robert&Karen 264]

I have my citizenship through my parents (derived citizenship) and use my passport as verification. No certificate of any sorts was ever issued to me. I just use my passport and no one has questioned that.

[ricavega 0]

Oh, that's good news for me! Thank you for the quick reply Robert&Karen!

[Robert&Karen 264]

Just include the passport (all pages and covers) and state that he has "derived citizenship" and I see no issues with that.

[ricavega 0]

oh ok, will do that. thanks so much for the tip, greatly appreciate it!

[Brother Hesekiel 2,235]

If your spouse became a U.S. citizen by Act of Law, meaning automatically when his parents naturalized, then he himself never naturalized. If he never naturalized, he never received a Certificate of Naturalization. If he never received a Certificate of Naturalization, his parents can't have lost his. If they claim they did, they are wackos.

[NickD 202]

Since I just happened to be a natural born US citizen, really had no say in that matter, so don't blame me, had the option to give my wife either my birth certificate or my US passport of proof of US citizenship. States so in the instructions. Not even sure why they wanted that again, how in the hell did they think my wife got her green card since they already have a record that I petitioned for her.

And why did they want to see our marriage certificate again, plus my divorce papers, same field office all ready has all that stuff. Then three years of proof we were living together with all that evidence, they also had that because due to delays in our I-751, practically a full year just short of eleven days, we had to update our I-751, so they had all of that in her file.

In reality, for her US citizenship, we should have been made to prove we were living together for just eleven days.

[ricavega 0]

If your spouse became a U.S. citizen by Act of Law, meaning automatically when his parents naturalized, then he himself never naturalized. If he never naturalized, he never received a Certificate of Naturalization. If he never received a Certificate of Naturalization, his parents can't have lost his. If they claim they did, they are wackos.

Thanks for this information. You know, I read something about this, i just wanted to make sure. I asked his parents about it and they said they had lost the certificate. i guess that's what you call senior moments

[ricavega 0]

Since I just happened to be a natural born US citizen, really had no say in that matter, so don't blame me, had the option to give my wife either my birth certificate or my US passport of proof of US citizenship. States so in the instructions. Not even sure why they wanted that again, how in the hell did they think my wife got her green card since they already have a record that I petitioned for her.

And why did they want to see our marriage certificate again, plus my divorce papers, same field office all ready has all that stuff. Then three years of proof we were living together with all that evidence, they also had that because due to delays in our I-751, practically a full year just short of eleven days, we had to update our I-751, so they had all of that in her file.

In reality, for her US citizenship, we should have been made to prove we were living together for just eleven days.

We thought about that, all the same requirements again!

As suggested by robert&karen, I made a note that his is "derived citizenship through his parents, attached is a photocopy of my husband's U.S. passport"

[Robert&Karen 264]

If your spouse became a U.S. citizen by Act of Law, meaning automatically when his parents naturalized, then he himself never naturalized. If he never naturalized, he never received a Certificate of Naturalization. If he never received a Certificate of Naturalization, his parents can't have lost his. If they claim they did, they are wackos.

They can apply for a "Certificate of Citizenship" for their kid. I can get one but a US Passport works just fine. If he had no passport and has to prove his derived citizenship, then the parents need to supply their naturalization papers.