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Visa approved! I will post a review of my interview shortly. Good luck to everyone that has an interview coming up, and thank you so much to NichNick and everyone that has helped me along the way!

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Visa approved! I will post a review of my interview shortly. Good luck to everyone that has an interview coming up, and thank you so much to NichNick and everyone that has helped me along the way!

Congrats :thumbs:

K-1
NOA1 Nov 25th 2011
NOA2 May 30th 2012 (not a typo, 187 days no RFE)
Left NVC Jun 18th 2012
Medical Jun 28th 2012
Pkt 3 sent Jul 3rd 2012
Pkt 3 rec Jul 9th 2012 (sent before received)
Pkt 4 rec Jul 30th 2012
Interview Jul 30th 2012 (refused for lack of ongoing relationship evidence)
Approved Oct 5th 2012
Visa delivered Oct 10th 2012
POE JFK-NYC Nov 28th 2012
Married Dec 24th 2012

AOS
Package sent Jan 30th 2013
NOA1 Feb 6th 2013
Biometrics Mar 4th 2013
EAD/AP card in production Apr 5th 2013
EAD/AP card in mail Apr 11th 2013
EAD/AP card arrived Apr 13th 2013
SS card arrived Apr 19th 2013

AOS approved Sept 19th 2013 (no interview)

ROC

Package sent Sept 13th 2015

NOA1 Sept 15th 2015

Extension Letter 1yr Sept 15th 2015

Biometrics Oct 15th 2015

RFE Jul 11th 2016

Infopass 1yr extension Aug 26th 2016

RFE response Sept 30th 2016

Interview Mar 15th 2017


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I have a question about the affadavits of support. My fiance is unemployed and has been for a while (had one job 6 years ago for 6 months) due to social anxiety. He intends to get a job when we get married, and he lives with his mum. His dad passed away early last year, and he worked and provided for the family.

We are going to be using a co-sponsor, his mum. She is retired now and gets $21,000 per annum in social security, owns her own house, and has $70,000+ in savings. My fiance has around $5,000 savings, and I aim to have around £3,000 saved by the interview.

I have been a bit worried where I've read about some COs not accepting co-sponsors for the I-134 and the fact they don't have to allow it. I was wondering if it would be worth having a completed signed copy of the I-864 as well as it is a legally binding document, to prove I will be provided for in the US? I want to make sure I cover all possibilities of it going wrong.

AOS posted - 02/18/2014

NOA1 - 03/04/2014
Biometrics - 03/28/2014
EAD in post - 5/5/2014

EAD in hand - 5/10/2014
Interview waiver letter received - 6/9/2014

Card production notice - 1/10/2015

ROC mailed - 10/11/2016

ROC received at CSC - 10/18/2016

Interview Notice Received - 3/30/2017

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I have a question about the affadavits of support. My fiance is unemployed and has been for a while (had one job 6 years ago for 6 months) due to social anxiety. He intends to get a job when we get married, and he lives with his mum. His dad passed away early last year, and he worked and provided for the family.

We are going to be using a co-sponsor, his mum. She is retired now and gets $21,000 per annum in social security, owns her own house, and has $70,000+ in savings. My fiance has around $5,000 savings, and I aim to have around £3,000 saved by the interview.

I have been a bit worried where I've read about some COs not accepting co-sponsors for the I-134 and the fact they don't have to allow it. I was wondering if it would be worth having a completed signed copy of the I-864 as well as it is a legally binding document, to prove I will be provided for in the US? I want to make sure I cover all possibilities of it going wrong.

Well bummer. I had a great post going with quotes from the Foreign Affairs Manual, but it disappeared. So just go with this last bit

c. If you determine that any of the following types of applicants need an Affidavit of Support to meet the public charge requirement,
they may use Form I-134, as they are not authorized to use Form I-864 or I-864W
:

(1) Returning resident aliens (SBs);

(2) Diversity visa applicants (DVs); and

(3) Fiancé(e)s (K1s or K3s)

Also, I have never known London to refuse a K1 co-sponsor. I think Manila is known for only allowing the fiancé. The Foreign Affairs Manual actually has wording that anybody can be the sponsor but they should establish some kind of relationship with the visa applicant exists like a family member or close friend and not a random stranger.

England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

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So it's not actually allowed to use I-864 and I could get told off for doing so? =o.

I'd thought so too, but I read about someone getting declined in Italy because they said that co-sponsors are only for when the petitioner is borderline at the requirements. It has worried me as Italy is a European first world country like England :(.

AOS posted - 02/18/2014

NOA1 - 03/04/2014
Biometrics - 03/28/2014
EAD in post - 5/5/2014

EAD in hand - 5/10/2014
Interview waiver letter received - 6/9/2014

Card production notice - 1/10/2015

ROC mailed - 10/11/2016

ROC received at CSC - 10/18/2016

Interview Notice Received - 3/30/2017

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So it's not actually allowed to use I-864 and I could get told off for doing so? =o.

I'd thought so too, but I read about someone getting declined in Italy because they said that co-sponsors are only for when the petitioner is borderline at the requirements. It has worried me as Italy is a European first world country like England :(.

You never know the whole story from a post. The officer has full descretion to accept a K1 affidavit of support or not. Maybe there were other factors that made him feel like the applicant would not meet the public charge. More from the FAM notes--

a. In making a determination regarding an alien's admissibility under INA 212(a)(4), you must consider, at a minimum, the alien's:

(1) Age;

(2) Health;

(3) Family status;

(4) Assets;

(5) Financial status and resources; and

(6) Education or skills.

b. These factors, and any other factors thought relevant by an officer in a specific case, will make up the "totality of the circumstances" that you must consider when making a public charge determination.

I suppose an officer could look at your fiance's lack of employment for six years and dependency on his mother as an adult, and wonder if he will easily find a job in this economy or hold on to a job since he has little work history. He may look at your skills and wonder if you will easily find a job. If mother is 98 years old, then he may figure her social security check might not be for much longer. There's many things they can consider, but I have not known London to refuse a valid co-sponsor so your chances are good that mom will be accepted. I wish you luck. Your life isn't going to be easy when you get there with no income. Don't get sick or pregnant. Healthcare is bloody expensive.

England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

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I guess so. I've held a job working at British Gas in customer service since I was 16 earning around £21,000 a year so he might think I'd be ok to get a job.

So just to confirm, I'm not allowed to use a I-864 at the interview stage, if nothing more than to prove that his mom is willing to sign a legally binding document to show I will be taken care of and not claim welfare?

Thanks NichNick

AOS posted - 02/18/2014

NOA1 - 03/04/2014
Biometrics - 03/28/2014
EAD in post - 5/5/2014

EAD in hand - 5/10/2014
Interview waiver letter received - 6/9/2014

Card production notice - 1/10/2015

ROC mailed - 10/11/2016

ROC received at CSC - 10/18/2016

Interview Notice Received - 3/30/2017

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I guess so. I've held a job working at British Gas in customer service since I was 16 earning around £21,000 a year so he might think I'd be ok to get a job.

So just to confirm, I'm not allowed to use a I-864 at the interview stage, if nothing more than to prove that his mom is willing to sign a legally binding document to show I will be taken care of and not claim welfare?

Thanks NichNick

It's the I-134. The I-864 will come with your adjustment of status in the US. You've got more forms, more money, and more documentation before you get a greencard. There are gobs of UK folks who have used a joint sponsor. Usually very little is even discussed about it. Ask her for a copy of her latest social security statement. One is issued at the end of each year to tell the recipient what their new payment will be starting in January. That will be like an employer letter. A photocopy should fine, but her I-134 needs to be original, signed, and mailed by post. She can provide financial statements showing her savings. A tax return is good proof too, but not a requirement for a London 1-134.

England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

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Hi guys.

Long story cut short, for reasons unknown the embassy didn't receive my Packet 3 letters that I sent back at the beginning of December (despite them receiving my medical results and readiness of interview letter). A few frantic emails back and forth later after both parties realising this, I received a short-notice interview for next week on the 13th (after they let me scan and email them my documents). We have a ceremony arranged for March 2nd, which we would probably have met easily had they received the initial Packet 3 documents. Obviously they have done all they can to give me a quick interview date, which is great.

My main concern now is delivery of the visa. I've hears of this taking upto 14 days, but also taking as little as 5 days. Has anyone recently been accepted who can confirm how long it took to arrive? Or if there is a general known average?

Thanks!

Rich

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They also' mislaid' my paperwork and miraculously found it, so you are not alone...

My interview was this tuesday (5th), and I received notification from DX yesterday (8th) confirming delivery will be on the 11th(monday). I called to try to upgrade to saturday delivery so i would have it today but there were no slots free annoyingly.

Someone else i know had an interview last week on the monday, and visa was delivered on the friday, so seems to be the 'normal' time frame currently, although they do say at the interview it can be up to a couple of weeks.

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CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

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June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

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My main concern now is delivery of the visa. I've hears of this taking upto 14 days, but also taking as little as 5 days. Has anyone recently been accepted who can confirm how long it took to arrive? Or if there is a general known average?

Thanks!

Rich

My interview was on the 25th of January, I got a text yesterday saying i would receive my passport complete with visa on Monday (11th) So i will have waited a total of 11 working days, I was hoping to receive it sooner as i was planning on flying on the 10th, but at least is it coming !

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Another quick question - the co-sponsor for the I-134, do I need to bring along a proof of citizenship to the interview? Like a copy of their birth certificate or whatever?

Thanks

AOS posted - 02/18/2014

NOA1 - 03/04/2014
Biometrics - 03/28/2014
EAD in post - 5/5/2014

EAD in hand - 5/10/2014
Interview waiver letter received - 6/9/2014

Card production notice - 1/10/2015

ROC mailed - 10/11/2016

ROC received at CSC - 10/18/2016

Interview Notice Received - 3/30/2017

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Another quick question - the co-sponsor for the I-134, do I need to bring along a proof of citizenship to the interview? Like a copy of their birth certificate or whatever?

Thanks

As far as i am aware the only supporting documents you need for the co-sponsor is the financial evidence etc,having a full tax transcript, a letter of employment or bank statements will pretty much prove their citizenship.

I recently had my interview and they didnt ask for any evidence of citizenship for my co-sponsor so i'd just say don't worry about it, Somebody else who is more clued up may advise you different, but i have never heard or read about the London embassy requesting it.

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: England
Timeline

Ugh, so many stories of people having to chase up the embassy and finding out they had no record of the documents arriving! Makes me worried! Is there any way of finding out whether the paperwork has been logged?

Congrats to those who passed their interviews by the way :D

AOS Timeline

7th Oct 2013 - Mailed I-485 package

15th Oct 2013 - NOA1 hard copy

4th Nov 2013 - RFE

8th Nov 2013 - Biometrics

13th Jan 2014 - USCIS confirmed receipt of returned RFE evidence

27th Jan 2014 - Received EAD card

Feb 2014 - Received potential interview waiver letter

19th July 2014 - AOS approved, green card in production :D

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...... but i have never heard or read about the London embassy requesting it.

I haven't either, except for spouses doing the I-864 which K1s will do when adjusting status.

England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

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