A Decision Cannot Yet Be Made About Your Application

[texas_dude78665 0]

Hey guys. I had my N-400 interview and test today and let's just say I would NEVER want to repeat the process/experience. My assigned IO was absolutely terrible and I was the first candidate of the day (7:30 AM). Not only did it start bad, the entire 30-minute experience seemed to be comprised of 75-80% interrogation and 20-25% fact-finding.

So, the name on my GC is not the name I've been using for the last 23 years. My driver's license, SS Card, school transcripts, marriage certificate, etc., all indicate my current name. I wasn't sure which to use on my N-400 in the "current legal name" section, so I went with what I've been using since I was 15. But, I did indicate the name on my GC and also checked off the "name change" section in addition to writing the name I've been using above. Well, let's just say she was not happy about that and proceeded to absolutely crucify/scold me about it for the first 10 minutes of my interview. There were other questions that she felt needed a lot of scrutiny (previous addresses, travel history, and the fact that my driver's license did not have my current address). I told her that I updated my driver's license address online, which she shrugged off. Then she asked me for proof of my current address, which I included a copy of my current rental lease agreement with my N-400 and also provided this morning. She responded with "what am I supposed to do with this?" Then she asked for proof of my last address, by which I responded that I no longer live there since it was last year and thus I am providing a current lease agreement contract for the home I currently live in now.

Long story short, I easily passed the civics test (only had to answer the first 6) and writing/reading tests as well. She did have me sign the "name change" form that must be approved by the U.S. Federal District Court. At the conclusion, she printed out the N-652 (Naturalization Interview Results) which indicated that I indeed passed the tests of English and U.S. history and government. But it also indicated that "USCIS will send you a written decision about your application" instead of the "Congratulations! Your application has been recommended for approval."

My N-652 indicates that "A decision cannot yet be made about your application." Is this because of the name change? I'm totally freaking out now about this whole experience. I've been a Permanent Resident for 35 years and now just a applying for US citizenship. Oh, she also asked why I'm just now applying for citizenship and why didn't I take care of this matter beforehand.

Any advice?

[NickD 202]

Can only relate my headaches during our AOS stage in bring my wife and her daughter here, dealing with two different countries that couldn't either type worth a darn. Did hire one of the top US immigration attorneys for guidance and had to get all that corrected in birth certificates, marriage certificates and even in divorce papers. Down there meant hiring a notary and going to court to correct their mistakes and cost a small fortune to do that.

Even had problems with my own birth certificate, State of Illinois hired a bunch of idiots to convert all birth certificates to a database, really screwed up my name. That took me three months to correct with all kinds of evidence I has to submit, but only cost me eight bucks.

With all the correct paperwork in hand, that portion with the USCIS went smoothly. Sounds like you should have done the same.

[texas_dude78665 0]

Can only relate my headaches during our AOS stage in bring my wife and her daughter here, dealing with two different countries that couldn't either type worth a darn. Did hire one of the top US immigration attorneys for guidance and had to get all that corrected in birth certificates, marriage certificates and even in divorce papers. Down there meant hiring a notary and going to court to correct their mistakes and cost a small fortune to do that.

Even had problems with my own birth certificate, State of Illinois hired a bunch of idiots to convert all birth certificates to a database, really screwed up my name. That took me three months to correct with all kinds of evidence I has to submit, but only cost me eight bucks.

With all the correct paperwork in hand, that portion with the USCIS went smoothly. Sounds like you should have done the same.

Well, it's official...after waiting for three weeks since my citizenship interview I was officially denied earlier today. Here is the email from USCIS:

Receipt Number: NBC*.........

Application Type: N400 , APPLICATION FOR NATURALIZATION

Your Case Status: Decision

On January 27, 2012, we mailed you a denial decision notice for this case N400 APPLICATION FOR NATURALIZATION. The notice explains why the denial decision was made and the options that may be available to you. If you have not received this notice within 15 days of January 27, 2012, please call customer service at 1-800-375-5283 for further assistance.

During this step the formal decision (approved/denied) is written and the decision notice is mailed and/or emailed to the applicant/petitioner. You can use our current processing time to gauge when you can expect to receive a final decision.

If you have questions or concerns about your application or the case status results listed above, or if you have not received a decision from USCIS within the current processing time listed*, please contact USCIS Customer Service at (800) 375-5283.

*Current processing times can be found on the USCIS website at www.uscis.gov under Check Processing Times.

*** Please do not respond to this e-mail message.

Sincerely,

The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)

So as I await the official denial letter in the mail I am at a total loss for logic. The only item I can think of is that I had just moved back to California from Texas. Although the Immigration Officer didn't mention the address residency issue I figured it was a non-issue. So we'll see what the letter states once I receive it in the next few days. Immediately after I received the email today I called USCIS and they could not elaborate further since the field office in Fresno had not notified them of the official reason(s). #######????

[NickD 202]

The only item I can think of is that I had just moved back to California from Texas.

If you didn't wait 90 days in California before sending in your N-400, that is the reason for your denial. Strange rule since the USCIS is a federal agency.

In many ways, this is a very strange country, was a hell of a lot of competition between the original 13 colonies, so our founders just united them, thus the name, the United States. Only became worse with 50 states competing with each other. Ha, our Governor Walker bragged like crazy getting a new aircraft company in Wisconsin, had to look that up, a half a dozen employees moved from Duluth to Superior. For them was just a move across a very short bridge. Sure Minnesota won't noticed the difference.

Now if he got 20 millions jobs back from China, he would have something to brag about. But now, we have 50 different states with 50 different sets of laws. Crazy for one so-called country. If our governor won't comply with federal laws, and he didn't, we got robbed out of 700 million bucks of money we sent to Washington.

[texas_dude78665 0]

To make matters worse I was approved for a fee waiver, so I will have to reapply with the $680 fee. I am actually planning to move back to Texas anway, so my plan is to wait the required 90 days and then submit another N-400.

From my research during the last 24 hours it seems like I'm going to undergo the entire process once again (biometrics, tests, interview, etc).

[Heliosphan 1]

Well, it's official...after waiting for three weeks since my citizenship interview I was officially denied earlier today. Here is the email from USCIS:

Receipt Number: NBC*.........

Application Type: N400 , APPLICATION FOR NATURALIZATION

Your Case Status: Decision

On January 27, 2012, we mailed you a denial decision notice for this case N400 APPLICATION FOR NATURALIZATION. The notice explains why the denial decision was made and the options that may be available to you. If you have not received this notice within 15 days of January 27, 2012, please call customer service at 1-800-375-5283 for further assistance.

During this step the formal decision (approved/denied) is written and the decision notice is mailed and/or emailed to the applicant/petitioner. You can use our current processing time to gauge when you can expect to receive a final decision.

If you have questions or concerns about your application or the case status results listed above, or if you have not received a decision from USCIS within the current processing time listed*, please contact USCIS Customer Service at (800) 375-5283.

*Current processing times can be found on the USCIS website at www.uscis.gov under Check Processing Times.

*** Please do not respond to this e-mail message.

Sincerely,

The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)

So as I await the official denial letter in the mail I am at a total loss for logic. The only item I can think of is that I had just moved back to California from Texas. Although the Immigration Officer didn't mention the address residency issue I figured it was a non-issue. So we'll see what the letter states once I receive it in the next few days. Immediately after I received the email today I called USCIS and they could not elaborate further since the field office in Fresno had not notified them of the official reason(s). #######????

Did you live in California for 90 days before you submitted the application?

[texas_dude78665 0]

No, I was only back in CA for one month. I honestly didn't know about the 90-day rule until well after I submitted my application. I was approved for the fee waiver, had my fingerprints taken, passed the tests, and was not discussed by IO during the interview three weeks ago. She did ask me why I didn't apply when I was in TX, and also reviewed the copy of my rental lease and asked me how long it had been since I moved in (hence there was the tip off about 90-day in hindsight).

The letter should arrive in the next few days and will reveal the reason for my denial. I did call USCIS yesterday afternoon right after received the email, but they would not provide any info beyond the "please wait for the letter."

So how long will I have to wait to reapply? I'm thinking that once I move back to TX I just need to wait the required 90-days then resubmit a new N-400. Correct??

[Heliosphan 1]

No, I was only back in CA for one month. I honestly didn't know about the 90-day rule until well after I submitted my application. I was approved for the fee waiver, had my fingerprints taken, passed the tests, and was not discussed by IO during the interview three weeks ago. She did ask me why I didn't apply when I was in TX, and also reviewed the copy of my rental lease and asked me how long it had been since I moved in (hence there was the tip off about 90-day in hindsight).

The letter should arrive in the next few days and will reveal the reason for my denial. I did call USCIS yesterday afternoon right after received the email, but they would not provide any info beyond the "please wait for the letter."

So how long will I have to wait to reapply? I'm thinking that once I move back to TX I just need to wait the required 90-days then resubmit a new N-400. Correct??

If you're moving back to TX then yea, just wait the 90 days and you can apply again (if that's the reason for the denial). What you could also do is put a cover letter in your next application explaining the name situation so that you don't have to go through that terrible ordeal again.

At least you didn't lose any money on the application fee.

[texas_dude78665 0]

I just checked the mail and sure enough, the letter from USCIS in Fresno. As I feared, citizenship denied due to lack of physical presence at my current address for 90-days prior to submission of my N-400.

So plan now is to move back to Texas in two weeks and reapply in 90-days. I will not try to obtain another fee waiver (I-912) this time, rather I will just go ahead and submit the application with the $680 fee.

[NickD 202]

I just checked the mail and sure enough, the letter from USCIS in Fresno. As I feared, citizenship denied due to lack of physical presence at my current address for 90-days prior to submission of my N-400.

So plan now is to move back to Texas in two weeks and reapply in 90-days. I will not try to obtain another fee waiver (I-912) this time, rather I will just go ahead and submit the application with the $680 fee.

You must have been born under an unlucky star, recall some folks here sending their application in too soon. Package was returned to them with their uncashed check. Others with early interviews, had to wait a couple of months for their oath ceremony.

[sap283 0]

I just checked the mail and sure enough, the letter from USCIS in Fresno. As I feared, citizenship denied due to lack of physical presence at my current address for 90-days prior to submission of my N-400.

So plan now is to move back to Texas in two weeks and reapply in 90-days. I will not try to obtain another fee waiver (I-912) this time, rather I will just go ahead and submit the application with the $680 fee.

Hi, Did you apply for fee waiver again? How does fee waiver work? Do they adjuricate fee waiver before hand or at last stage?

[JimmyHou 611]

Hi, Did you apply for fee waiver again? How does fee waiver work? Do they adjuricate fee waiver before hand or at last stage?

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