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Hello all! The time has come in my journey that I can file to naturalize. I'm a Canadian citizen currently residing in America, and have done so legally by marriage for the last three years. I have a 10 yr. green card which it appears I can just continue to renew, or attain citizenship. I would like to have the ability to move back and forth over the border as work and life unfolds, but it seems with a green card alone that can't happen? My problem is that I don't want to give up my Canadian citizenship to get American, I love both countries but Canada is my homeland. Is it possible to get dual citizenship? From my research I think it is, but I'd love to hear the wisdom from others. Thank you all, this site has single-handedly gotten me where I am residence-wise. Y'all rock!!!

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It is possible yes, you have a canadian birth certificate so you'll always be a canadian citizen, and the lady at my interview told me i could have both citizenships if i rememeber correctly

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Hello all! The time has come in my journey that I can file to naturalize. I'm a Canadian citizen currently residing in America, and have done so legally by marriage for the last three years. I have a 10 yr. green card which it appears I can just continue to renew, or attain citizenship. I would like to have the ability to move back and forth over the border as work and life unfolds, but it seems with a green card alone that can't happen? My problem is that I don't want to give up my Canadian citizenship to get American, I love both countries but Canada is my homeland. Is it possible to get dual citizenship? From my research I think it is, but I'd love to hear the wisdom from others. Thank you all, this site has single-handedly gotten me where I am residence-wise. Y'all rock!!!

As long as your home country doesn't revoke your citizenship (which Canada, the UK and Australia - just to name a few - don't) then no problem.

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You don't give up Canadian citizenship by naturalization in the USA.

To give up Canadian citizenship you have to pay fees, file forms and see a judge. It is a lengthy process.

Dual Citizenship is extremely common with Canadians - Half my family is Canadian and American citizens.

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Hello all! The time has come in my journey that I can file to naturalize. I'm a Canadian citizen currently residing in America, and have done so legally by marriage for the last three years. I have a 10 yr. green card which it appears I can just continue to renew, or attain citizenship. I would like to have the ability to move back and forth over the border as work and life unfolds, but it seems with a green card alone that can't happen? My problem is that I don't want to give up my Canadian citizenship to get American, I love both countries but Canada is my homeland. Is it possible to get dual citizenship? From my research I think it is, but I'd love to hear the wisdom from others. Thank you all, this site has single-handedly gotten me where I am residence-wise. Y'all rock!!!

No problem at all. Just go ahead and naturalize, and you will be a dual citizen.

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Dual citizenship is possible and you can very well go ahead with your application process. There are so many people who have the citizenhsip of both the countries along with a third country also. One should first ensure that the legal system of the countries allow multiple citizenship before applying in another country.

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Just use the phase, "dual naturalization" instead of "dual citizenship", its the same thing, but want to be politically correct. Department of State site spells this out for each country.

Will scare the hell out of you if planning to flying down to Bogota, but don't say a thing about driving down to Milwaukee that has the highest murder rate in the country.

A bunch of hypocrites in my opinion and experience. Worse part of any trip is coming back here. Just walked out of the airport in Bogota, but in Milwaukee, both my wife and stepdaughter were delayed three hours being stripped searched. And they call this a country of freedom that fights all over the world for freedom, except here.

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You don't give up Canadian citizenship by naturalization in the USA.

To give up Canadian citizenship you have to pay fees, file forms and see a judge. It is a lengthy process.

Dual Citizenship is extremely common with Canadians - Half my family is Canadian and American citizens.

Exactly. Canada in fact is a little different then most other countries where instead of having to revoke your citizenship if you take on another one, Canada makes it a painful, costly and lengthy process for one to try and remove it.

Canada wants to always have their citizens and isn't fond of people no longer wanting to be Canadian. Plus there's really no reason to get rid of it anyways since it doesn't cost anything, you don't have to have any contact with Canada, and you get more benefits from being able to move back there at will. The only cases I've seen where people revoke their Canadian citizenship are those higher US government/CIA/Military jobs that require you to only have a US citizenship. Of course very few people ever get up to those positions in the first place...

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1997

Oct - Job offer in US

Nov - Received my TN-1 to be authorized to work in the US

Nov - Moved to US

1998-2001

Recieved 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th TN

2002

May - Met future wife at arts fest

Nov - Recieved 6th TN

2003

Nov - Recieved 7th TN

Jul - Our Wedding

Aug - Filed for AOS

Sep - Recieved EAD

Sep - Recieved Advanced Parole

2004

Jan - Interview, accepted for Green Card

Feb - Green Card Arrived in mail

2005

Oct - I-751 sent off

2006

Jan - 10 year Green Card accepted

Mar - 10 year Green Card arrived

Oct - Filed N-400 for Naturalization

Nov - Biometrics done

Nov - Just recieved Naturalization Interview date for Jan.

2007

Jan - Naturalization Interview Completed

Feb - Oath Letter recieved

Feb - Oath Ceremony

Feb 21 - Finally a US CITIZEN (yay)

THE END

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Let me add something.

The U.S. does not recognize multiple citizenships (of its citizens), but Canada does. What that means is that you can use your U.S. passport exclusively to travel internationally, even into Canada. (It doesn't work the other way around.) Thus, you do not ever need to get a new Canadian passport if you don't want to.

For a Brit and a Canadian and an Aussie . . . there's really no reason not to become a U.S. citizen before the first 10-year Green Card expires.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

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The U.S. does not recognize multiple citizenships (of its citizens), but Canada does.

The US requires when you leave or enter the US to use your US passport if you are a US citizen. However, the US does recognize multiple citizenship but does not encourage it. This is the statement from the Department of State:

The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause.

http://www.travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html

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The US requires when you leave or enter the US to use your US passport if you are a US citizen. However, the US does recognize multiple citizenship but does not encourage it. This is the statement from the Department of State:

The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause.

And then you have situations where someone is born as a dual-citizen and becoming an American citizen gives you a tuple. What it does mean, is that when you are in a country where you are a citizen, you have to abide by the laws as such. Having 3 citizenships from 3 NATO countries is not at odds to each other as compared to being a citizen of some other countries.

However, the one important point to keep in mind when a US citizen, is that you are taxed on world-income regardless of your current country of residence.

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The US requires when you leave or enter the US to use your US passport if you are a US citizen. However, the US does recognize multiple citizenship but does not encourage it. This is the statement from the Department of State:

The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause.

http://www.travel.st...s/cis_1753.html

The U.S. Government recognizes that dual (and triple and quadruple) nationality exists, but it does not recognize any other nationality of U.S. nationals. Canada does, and so does Australia and the United Kingdom.

The U.S. Government also recognizes that same sex marriage exists, but it does not recognize it. Therefore, no U.S. citizen can petition for a same sex spouse.

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There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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Sure doesn't say anything whereby the DOS forces you to maintain your previous citizenship by putting your place of birth in your US passport. And with that place of birth on your passport, you can be denied entry into your home country. And you don't just get a passport, have to reinstate your citizenship via an ID card.

What is really stupid, is they say you have to obey the laws of that country. Of course you do, whether a citizen of that country or not. And most of their prisons are not as nice as ours.

The concept of dual nationality means that a person is a citizen of two countries at the same time. Each country has its own citizenship laws based on its own policy.Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice. For example, a child born in a foreign country to U.S. citizen parents may be both a U.S. citizen and a citizen of the country of birth.

A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth.U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another. Also, a person who is automatically granted another citizenship does not risk losing U.S. citizenship. However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship.

Intent can be shown by the person's statements or conduct.The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Claims of other countries on dual national U.S. citizens may conflict with U.S. law, and dual nationality may limit U.S. Government efforts to assist citizens abroad. The country where a dual national is located generally has a stronger claim to that person's allegiance.

However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there.Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. citizenship.Most countries permit a person to renounce or otherwise lose citizenship.

Information on losing foreign citizenship can be obtained from the foreign country's embassy and consulates in the United States. Americans can renounce U.S. citizenship in the proper form at U.S. embassies and consulates abroad.

Big problem is after you get your citizenship, or even if natural born, is applying for citizenship to a foreign country. What I find most unusual, is if a couple say is on vacation in a foreign country and birth is given to their child there, all kinds of problems for that kid. This is becoming more predominate due to our extreme health care cost. Will get you one way or the other.

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The U.S. Government recognizes that dual (and triple and quadruple) nationality exists, but it does not recognize any other nationality of U.S. nationals. Canada does, and so does Australia and the United Kingdom.

Well, on the Department of State website it states that

US State Department Services Dual Nationality

http://www.travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html

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Well, on the Department of State website it states that

US State Department Services Dual Nationality

http://www.travel.st...s/cis_1753.html

Play with words, if your home country demands you have their passport because your US passport states in big fat letters, you were born there, its dual citizenship. No country issues a passport unless you maintain your citizenship there. Conflicts between the USCIS and DOS, and if trying to bring a person here, more conflicts when the NVC is also involved.

Not only here, but in other agencies as well like between the EPA and OSHA, or the FCC, FAA, and DOT, or the EPA and DOT primarily in automotive. Just too damned many different agencies, all claim their laws are made by congress, but not one of the congressman has even heard of these 1,525 different agencies they created in the last 40 years. Way too many law enforcement agencies, FBI, the only one during WW II did an excellent job, now they are fighting with each other who has jurisdiction, the key reason we did have a 9/11. So how to they cure this? Create even more agencies.

We are in the middle of this big governmental mess.

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