Dublin IS A POE....SERIOUSLY?

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

Well, most of the folks who read VJ these days have forgotten the story of how the officer at Dublin threw Wes' I-94 in the bin and said he wouldn't need it! :P

[Steph1988 11]

; How come you don't go through immigration and be interviewed (normal procedure) with a CBP since flying from Dublin to NY is still an international flight and not considered a domestic flight?!

Every international flight has to go through Custom Border Protection and Security, is for what I understand.

nope, its a domestic if it travels from dublin directly to the usa, from all ive read and been told, so the cbp an interview etc takes place in dublin, when you arrive in the usa u go straight to arrivals/baggage claims, u dont need to go through all the international arrivals crazy waiting/stress. or head off to ur next flight, its so crazy dublin does this, but it does, an thats how it is, ur classed as being in america once u clear cbp in dublin, how odd

[Inky 1,110]

nope, its a domestic if it travels from dublin directly to the usa, from all ive read and been told, so the cbp an interview etc takes place in dublin, when you arrive in the usa u go straight to arrivals/baggage claims, u dont need to go through all the international arrivals crazy waiting/stress. or head off to ur next flight, its so crazy dublin does this, but it does, an thats how it is, ur classed as being in america once u clear cbp in dublin, how odd

hmm you have it backwards.

Its international when flying from one country to another. eg: Dublin, Ireland to USA.

Domestic is from one place to another inside the same country. eg: California to Texas.

[Steph1988 11]

hmm you have it backwards.

Its international when flying from one country to another. eg: Dublin, Ireland to USA.

Domestic is from one place to another inside the same country. eg: California to Texas.

im afraid to differ, an if u read the other posts people will tell u, ireland an flights from dublin/shannin(both ireland) and some but i dont no which from canada, that have cbp pre clearnace, arrive as domestic, no matter what country of origin, they are they ONLY countrys that do this, no others do, and its on the cbp web page if u google it ull find it easily enough, but yep its true, an flight DIRECT from dublin to usa, arrive as domestic, i dont no why or how, but they do, so cbp interview fingerprints etc is all done IN dublin and NOT in the USA, FACT

[Inky 1,110]

im afraid to differ, an if u read the other posts people will tell u, ireland an flights from dublin/shannin(both ireland) and some but i dont no which from canada, that have cbp pre clearnace, arrive as domestic, no matter what country of origin, they are they ONLY countrys that do this, no others do, and its on the cbp web page if u google it ull find it easily enough, but yep its true, an flight DIRECT from dublin to usa, arrive as domestic, i dont no why or how, but they do, so cbp interview fingerprints etc is all done IN dublin and NOT in the USA, FACT

Suit your self, all my flights from Canada to USA are through the international gate area and all the tickets say international on them. Not domestic. I pass customs in Canada and land in the USA with my bags ready for pick up.

If i'm flying inside Canada I go to the regular check-in lines and it does not say international gates.

Also a search on google brings up domestic flight - flying inside the same country from one place to another. As well as international flying from one country to another.

[Steph1988 11]

Suit your self, all my flights from Canada to USA are through the international gate area and all the tickets say international on them. Not domestic. I pass customs in Canada and land in the USA with my bags ready for pick up.

If i'm flying inside Canada I go to the regular check-in lines and it does not say international gates.

Also a search on google brings up domestic flight - flying inside the same country from one place to another. As well as international flying from one country to another.

i get what your saying, and totally agree, an up until yesterday argued the same cause, but as ive said, read back, many VJ members and a qucik check on CBP and expedia have all confirmed, dublin to usa direct is classed an treated as a domestic, all cbp preclearnce is done in dublin not the usa, plus several irish visa travelers have said yep its true, those who have been there done it so...

[Steph1988 11]

Suit your self, all my flights from Canada to USA are through the international gate area and all the tickets say international on them. Not domestic. I pass customs in Canada and land in the USA with my bags ready for pick up.

If i'm flying inside Canada I go to the regular check-in lines and it does not say international gates.

Also a search on google brings up domestic flight - flying inside the same country from one place to another. As well as international flying from one country to another.

AlinaH

I know that if I fly into Vancouver, Canada, before flying into the US, I have to go through US customs there. It was weird the first time ii happened to me, because I was expecting to go through customs in San Fransisco. Then, when I got to San Fransisco, I just went on to my next gate, as stated above, because it was considered a domestic flight, because I'd already done the customs and immigration process in Vancouver.

HeatDeath

The whole point of preclearance facilities, at least for Canada, is to remove a lot of the strain from the international arrivals sections of US airports. They're too busy, by and large, as it is, without also adding everyone flying from Canada into those lines. By clearing Canadians in Canada, they dramatically reduce the number of international arrivals who have to be processed upon arrival in the US. When a flight that has been precleared in Canada or Dublin lands in the US, it lands at the domestic arrival terminal, and it's passengers are treated just like any US domestic passengers upon arrival. You just walk straight off the plane and on to the next place you're going - either your next flight's gate or on to baggage claim and the street - no post processing of any kind.

just a few

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

So ive been told an read, dublin is a POE, an i can get interview an hand in my mystery envelope there, an have no drama as i enter the usa, as ive cleared the POE in dublin, is this really true, i can fly via dublin, get sorted and not have hassle or deal with CBP in the USA, i was stunned when i read this,

I doubt you will avoid any drama, the procedure is the same either way. Yes, Dublin can be a POE as well as London, Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver and probably many others where the USA has CBP at the foreign airport by agreement with the host country.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

i get what your saying, and totally agree, an up until yesterday argued the same cause, but as ive said, read back, many VJ members and a qucik check on CBP and expedia have all confirmed, dublin to usa direct is classed an treated as a domestic, all cbp preclearnce is done in dublin not the usa, plus several irish visa travelers have said yep its true, those who have been there done it so...

You will be treated as a domestic arrival when you arrive. You will go through the same procedure in Dublin you WOULD go through in the USA if you did it here. The reason it IS a "POE" is because you go through the POE procedures in a secure area before boarding the plane.

In theory there is no advantage to YOU, pay me now, pay me later...same thing. It gives more options for arrival gates and reduces lines at US airports. The best news for you is that the line will likely be shorter.

[bigdog 376]

Once you get domestic, no more important stuff, easy.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

I doubt you will avoid any drama, the procedure is the same either way. Yes, Dublin can be a POE as well as London, Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver and probably many others where the USA has CBP at the foreign airport by agreement with the host country.

The only flights out of London that get pre-clearance are flights routed to Shannon before the plane turns towards the US.

Here's the list of port of entry in other nations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_border_preclearance

Edited September 4, 2011 by Rebecca Jo

[Done--Really 331]

It always surprises me how many people will argue about something just because they don't believe it to be true. Facts are facts and they are simple to check--there are semantic issues reading through these posts, but it all comes down to one thing--when you get pre clearance as Steph will, you get on the flight, take a long nap, and get off the plane in the US without any further checks. If anyone doesn't think that is easier, then they have never gone through the long lines at most POE's.

Steph, don't waste your valuable electrons arguing with people who think their opinions trump the facts--in the end, facts always win, and they are 100% on your side, Steph. And the people with strong, but wrong opinions will keep telling you you are wrong long after you land in the US ready to rock and roll in your new life.

Best wishes in everything in your life.

[K&E2009 71]

It always surprises me how many people will argue about something just because they don't believe it to be true. Facts are facts and they are simple to check--there are semantic issues reading through these posts, but it all comes down to one thing--when you get pre clearance as Steph will, you get on the flight, take a long nap, and get off the plane in the US without any further checks. If anyone doesn't think that is easier, then they have never gone through the long lines at most POE's.

Steph, don't waste your valuable electrons arguing with people who think their opinions trump the facts--in the end, facts always win, and they are 100% on your side, Steph. And the people with strong, but wrong opinions will keep telling you you are wrong long after you land in the US ready to rock and roll in your new life.

Best wishes in everything in your life.

Couldn't agree more!

[buddy2012 0]

Hi

Was this straight forward for anyone who did it. Does it delay receipt of greencard or ssn by not doing it within the USA??

Thanks

[canadian_wife 1,808]

Canadians typically pre-clear in Canada, as I did and no, it shouldn't delay anything

Good luck

PS - don't wait for the SSN to arrive, go to the SSA as soon as possible get the SSN