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I was assuming my fiancee would need to get a police certificate once we get the NOA2, and bring to the interview. Then I read what they said here:

http://photos.state.gov/libraries/manila/19452/public/Revised%20K1%20Instruction%20Packet%20_3__rtf2_003.pdf

which is:

OTHER COUNTRY POLICE CERTIFICATES. Applicants aged 16 years and older must also present police certificates from other countries where they have lived for six (6) months or more after reaching the age of 16.

Leave it to the gov't to be both legalistic and unclear at the same time. Now, what does "other" mean? Other countries than the only country (Philippines) that she has ever lived in? Or, do they mean countries other than the USA (in which case would include where she lives)? Is she expected to get this for the Philippines, or is this only a requirement for beneficiaries who happen to have traveled abroad from their home countries? Plus, this certificate seems redundant to me if there's already an NBI clearance (why would she be cleared if there's an issue to report on a police certificate), but what do I know.

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Applicants aged 16 years and older must also present police certificates from other countries where they have lived/work for six (6) months or more after reaching the age of 16. If she has lived/work in the PI only, she will only need to present a NBI clearances.

g. OTHER COUNTRY POLICE CERTIFICATES. Applicants aged 16 years and older must also present police certificates from other countries where they have lived for six (6) months or more after reaching the age of 16. As with NBI clearances, foreign police certificates should be obtained in any maiden names, aliases or nicknames used while in the country in question, including different spellings you have used of those names.

f. NBI CLEARANCE. Applicants aged 16 years and older must have a valid Record Clearance for Travel Abroad Purposes from the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI). Clearances should be in the applicant’s current name, birth certificate name, maiden name and any aliases or nicknames used, including different spellings you have used of those names. For immigration purposes, an NBI clearance is valid for one (1) year from the date it was issued. The NBI website is http://www.nbi.gov.ph.

'PAU' both wife and daughter in the U.S. 08/25/2009

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I was assuming my fiancee would need to get a police certificate once we get the NOA2, and bring to the interview. Then I read what they said here:

http://photos.state.gov/libraries/manila/19452/public/Revised%20K1%20Instruction%20Packet%20_3__rtf2_003.pdf

which is:

Leave it to the gov't to be both legalistic and unclear at the same time. Now, what does "other" mean? Other countries than the only country (Philippines) that she has ever lived in? Or, do they mean countries other than the USA (in which case would include where she lives)? Is she expected to get this for the Philippines, or is this only a requirement for beneficiaries who happen to have traveled abroad from their home countries? Plus, this certificate seems redundant to me if there's already an NBI clearance (why would she be cleared if there's an issue to report on a police certificate), but what do I know.

if she has lived in any country other than the Philippines for six (6) months or more after reaching the age of 16.

US Embassy Manila website. bringing your spouse/fiancee to USA

http://manila.usembassy.gov/wwwh3204.html

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I was assuming my fiancee would need to get a police certificate once we get the NOA2, and bring to the interview. Then I read what they said here:

http://photos.state....3__rtf2_003.pdf

which is:

Leave it to the gov't to be both legalistic and unclear at the same time. Now, what does "other" mean? Other countries than the only country (Philippines) that she has ever lived in? Or, do they mean countries other than the USA (in which case would include where she lives)? Is she expected to get this for the Philippines, or is this only a requirement for beneficiaries who happen to have traveled abroad from their home countries? Plus, this certificate seems redundant to me if there's already an NBI clearance (why would she be cleared if there's an issue to report on a police certificate), but what do I know.

It's not redundant the NBI cert. shows crimes, warrants and active court proceedings for the Philippines only! Hence (police certificate from other countries)..... The US doesn't won't criminals.

'PAU' both wife and daughter in the U.S. 08/25/2009

Daughter's' CRBA Manila Embassy 08/07/2008 dual citizenship

http://crbausembassy....wordpress.com/

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Or, maybe I don't understand yet. This post says police clearance is needed, but I think the poster is getting a spouse visa. Is there a difference?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/163126-philippines-nbi-police-certificate/

But now that I read the full (very long) thread, it does seem that most people were siding with NBI clearance only.

So, speaking of NBI clearance, does the CDO office take 45 days or can she get the NBI clearance right away there?

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I got very confused about this at one point and had a very painful thread, after I had my wife jump thru hoops to get some local Philippine clearances she didn't need...trust me, I've been there. You need an NBI, but an NBI is all you need. Really. Get that and you are golden.

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Or, maybe I don't understand yet. This post says police clearance is needed, but I think the poster is getting a spouse visa. Is there a difference?

http://www.visajourn...ce-certificate/

Philippines has National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) clearance, it's not called ' police clearance or cert.'. Spouse visa makes no difference.

'PAU' both wife and daughter in the U.S. 08/25/2009

Daughter's' CRBA Manila Embassy 08/07/2008 dual citizenship

http://crbausembassy....wordpress.com/

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But now that I read the full (very long) thread, it does seem that most people were siding with NBI clearance only.

So, speaking of NBI clearance, does the CDO office take 45 days or can she get the NBI clearance right away there?

If you have no namesake, your clearance certificate will be released at the Releasing Counter on the same date of application. Present your Official Receipt for the printing of the certificate. This is also true in all NBI Offices, be it regional, district or satellite.

if you have namesake, you will be advised to return after three (3) days to either claim your NBI clearance certificate or be interviewed at the Quality Control. In other NBI offices, you will be advised to return after seven (7) working days or a maximum of ten (10) working days.

For NBI Clearance Center and Satellite Offices

Google is your friend!!!!!

http://www.nbi.gov.ph/

'PAU' both wife and daughter in the U.S. 08/25/2009

Daughter's' CRBA Manila Embassy 08/07/2008 dual citizenship

http://crbausembassy....wordpress.com/

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And by "namesake", you are referring to whether she's ever had another name? She's always used the same name.

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Namesake somebody with same name: somebody or something with the same name as somebody or something else.

She will need to list all names on the form, if she has used any other names.

f. NBI CLEARANCE. Applicants aged 16 years and older must have a valid Record Clearance for Travel Abroad Purposes from the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI). Clearances should be in the applicant’s current name, birth certificate name, maiden name and any aliases or nicknames used, including different spellings you have used of those names.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/323883-dumb-question-about-police-certificate/page__view__findpost__p__4835887

 

'PAU' both wife and daughter in the U.S. 08/25/2009

Daughter's' CRBA Manila Embassy 08/07/2008 dual citizenship

http://crbausembassy....wordpress.com/

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I was assuming my fiancee would need to get a police certificate once we get the NOA2, and bring to the interview. Then I read what they said here:

http://photos.state....3__rtf2_003.pdf

which is:

Leave it to the gov't to be both legalistic and unclear at the same time. Now, what does "other" mean? Other countries than the only country (Philippines) that she has ever lived in? Or, do they mean countries other than the USA (in which case would include where she lives)? Is she expected to get this for the Philippines, or is this only a requirement for beneficiaries who happen to have traveled abroad from their home countries? Plus, this certificate seems redundant to me if there's already an NBI clearance (why would she be cleared if there's an issue to report on a police certificate), but what do I know.

Instruction are clear, a police certificate is needed. Not a big deal unless their is a problem. Read the requirements again.

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Instruction are clear, a police certificate is needed. Not a big deal unless their is a problem. Read the requirements again.

But you just contradicted what everyone else just said above. The funny thing is, police certificate is the easiest for my fiancee to get so I probably shouldn't stress whether to get it or not, and just get it... she's only ever lived in one city and works for the government of that city... I think she can just walk down the hall at work and get it. :lol:

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Instruction are clear, a police certificate is needed. Not a big deal unless their is a problem. Read the requirements again.

Yes the instruction are clear......The OP made it clear she has only lived in the PI. Philippines has National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) clearance only, no such thing as ' police certificate for the PI it is called NBI clearance.

But you just contradicted what everyone else just said above. The funny thing is, police certificate is the easiest for my fiancee to get so I probably shouldn't stress whether to get it or not, and just get it... she's only ever lived in one city and works for the government of that city... I think she can just walk down the hall at work and get it. :lol:

You have been told what you need, "whether to get it or not" is up too you! If you don't get the NBI Clearance you won't get the visa, it's that simple.

'PAU' both wife and daughter in the U.S. 08/25/2009

Daughter's' CRBA Manila Embassy 08/07/2008 dual citizenship

http://crbausembassy....wordpress.com/

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