Why do Russians Hate Ice?

[1HappyGuy 45]

I put the no ice in the same category as don't sit near an open window or you will get pneumonia (pronounced by my wife as new-moan-knee-ah).

The ice thing seems to apply to ice cream often enough to let it start to melt before she will spoon any out. Then later I will find a re-frozen container full of crystalized ice cream no longer suitable for scooping.

It does make for an interesting life with all of the cultural differences. I'm sure that as some time she has wondered about the intelligence or sanity of her husband. It does go both ways.

As far as I'm concerned, the entire ice issue is all about the extremely cold winters and the effects it has had on the RUB psyche.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

skeet shooting with a 1911?

You mean you can't?

Along with Slim I love the M1911 and have too many of them for my own good. My Dad's is my sentimental favorite but not my favorite to shoot. It was a good design, but the original needed a little tweeking. This one served my father for more than 20 years and he came back alive so I will give it that. When I was a kid it rode on the front seat of the truck (and we didn't have seat belts either! AND the gas tank was in the cab behind the seat...just in case you thought it was dangerous to have guns in the truck with children. Everything is relative) and my first memory of the gun, other than it riding in the truck was my dad coming to a stop, taking a rest on his forearm and capping a cotote with one shot right out the window! Incidentally, that was and IS legal in Texas if you are driving on private property. I was impressed. The coyote did a back flip and landed like he was already a fur collar. I think Kimber makes the best (I could be biased)

I am not one to put sand in my rifle either. Some of them have been muddy and dirty when I was hunting and I had a Remingotn M7600 slide action freeze up on me entirely when it got wet while hunting and then the weather turned cold and it froze up solid. I decided it was too miserable to hunt anyway and took the rifle back and stood it in the bunkhouse and fired up the stove.

Speaking of skeet shooting, I still use Winchester pumps for that, 3 model 12s and a M42 .410. I tried all the rest and like them the best. Sergey and Pasha have been shooting a 20 ga. Ruger red label.

The Shiloh Sharps does heave a huge load. 110 gr. of FFg black powder (it will only fit when poured in through a 30" drop tube to pack it) a card wad, a lubed felt wad and a 550gr chunk of lead, sort of pointed but more like a rounded point. The cartridges look like cigars. Very accurate at extreme range IF you know the range. You can hit 12" steel plate pretty regularly at 1000 yds with that rifle and that is NOT with a scope! That is with a tang mounted peep sight. It is a heavy rifle and is not a bad kicker, it isn't nothing to be sure but no worse than a hunting load in a 12ga shotgun. The boys do not seem as fascinated with it as I am

Slim, my vote for the .45 is for a Kimber. They are not cheap but the quailty is outstanding and feature for feature they are not unreasonable in price. I bought mine by putting it on layaway at the local gun shop and paying it off over a couple months.

I am not an AK guy but I have heard the Yugo AKs are better than any of the Chinese copies. If you can find one of the older ones with a milled receiver as opposed to the stamp one I heard that is great. I did a project for Century International Arms here in Vermont and the AKs they are building there are well put together.

I put the no ice in the same category as don't sit near an open window or you will get pneumonia (pronounced by my wife as new-moan-knee-ah).

The ice thing seems to apply to ice cream often enough to let it start to melt before she will spoon any out. Then later I will find a re-frozen container full of crystalized ice cream no longer suitable for scooping.

It does make for an interesting life with all of the cultural differences. I'm sure that as some time she has wondered about the intelligence or sanity of her husband. It does go both ways.

As far as I'm concerned, the entire ice issue is all about the extremely cold winters and the effects it has had on the RUB psyche.

That's because they never put anything in the refrigerator! It is still my duty to patrol the kitchen and put all the stuff away and CLOSE the door on the refrigerator

[slim 1,523]

Slim, my vote for the .45 is for a Kimber. They are not cheap but the quailty is outstanding and feature for feature they are not unreasonable in price. I bought mine by putting it on layaway at the local gun shop and paying it off over a couple months.

I'd have to agree with you. For the money, I think Kimber makes the finest 1911 out there.

Although, now that everyone is making one, the run of the mill production types like Taurus are coming along quite nicely in value. It's not as pretty as a Kimber, but it's about 1/2 the price!

I prefer the double stack. For whatever reason, the single stack just seems too small for me. I guess too many years of carrying the M-9 spoiled me on large framed/gripped autoloaders and everything else just feels too compact. I'm going to do some shopping around this time and I'm not sure what I'll end up with. Money is always an issue with me so I may go the cheap route or I may save my pennies and get spoiled.

I am not an AK guy but I have heard the Yugo AKs are better than any of the Chinese copies. If you can find one of the older ones with a milled receiver as opposed to the stamp one I heard that is great. I did a project for Century International Arms here in Vermont and the AKs they are building there are well put together.

The AK is on the list but it's somewhat farther down the list. I need to do something about "my wife's" AR before I go into another long gun - especially another caliber and design. I have an AR for "her" but it's too heavy and I'm not sure that I like the set up. Quad rail, grip, etc. Too much on an otherwise fine rifle. I tried to Barbie it up to see if I'd like any of that junk and really, I don't. I need to trade/sell it and get a plain jane M-4 set up or my personal favorite, the CAR-15. Simple, plain, and light as a feather. I'll probably go with that option for "her" rifle before I get into the AK market.

Once I do... sky's the limit!

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I'd have to agree with you. For the money, I think Kimber makes the finest 1911 out there.

Although, now that everyone is making one, the run of the mill production types like Taurus are coming along quite nicely in value. It's not as pretty as a Kimber, but it's about 1/2 the price!

I prefer the double stack. For whatever reason, the single stack just seems too small for me. I guess too many years of carrying the M-9 spoiled me on large framed/gripped autoloaders and everything else just feels too compact. I'm going to do some shopping around this time and I'm not sure what I'll end up with. Money is always an issue with me so I may go the cheap route or I may save my pennies and get spoiled.

The AK is on the list but it's somewhat farther down the list. I need to do something about "my wife's" AR before I go into another long gun - especially another caliber and design. I have an AR for "her" but it's too heavy and I'm not sure that I like the set up. Quad rail, grip, etc. Too much on an otherwise fine rifle. I tried to Barbie it up to see if I'd like any of that junk and really, I don't. I need to trade/sell it and get a plain jane M-4 set up or my personal favorite, the CAR-15. Simple, plain, and light as a feather. I'll probably go with that option for "her" rifle before I get into the AK market.

Once I do... sky's the limit!

To be honest, I bought a 28 ga. Remington auto for Alla to shoot skeet and that was the last gun I bought since about 2003, though before that (which was before I went to Ukraine) I was a very prolific buyer of guns. Maybe I have (heaven forbid!) "enough". Many of mine were also inherited from ny gun enthusiast father and grandfather (we should all be so lucky!) So I haven't looked much at the whole M1911 choice for quite some time. I read about them and that is about it. I know I paid about $900 for the Kimber in 2002 (I think, may bave been 2001) and it has a ton of features that if you added up the custom cost it would be easily double that. It also has never jammed or had any problems in any way and weighs 25 oz., very light for a .45

I never liked the double stacked autos of any persuasion because the reason I like autos is because they can be very slim and easy to conceal. Big, fat butted autos seem to spoil the purpose for concealed carry, though for open carry, like police, I have no problem with the concept. I think the 6+1 of the Kimber Ultra series is plenty for concealed carry, I do not carry extra ammo. I feel perfectly well armed with a 5 shot S&W Centennial for that matter. I figure for personal defense the main goal is to be a more difficult target than someone else, not to be able to provide suppressing firepower. I'm guess that the average bad guy would rather try to take someone else's wallet when confronted with a 7 shot .45 But Para has been around a long time and they make a good product, you would not go wrong with it, I am sure.

For ARs I have a "pre-ban" (that doesn't mean anything anymore, really) Sporter A2, just a factory stock service rifle, and a Colt Sporter A3 with 24" stainless HB, flat top and match sights, it is for NRA match rifle shooting. I would like to add an M4 just for fun. I had an all fiberglass AR which weighed like 4 lbs. I forget the maker at the time and now they have sold out and are being made by someone else. It was very light but not at all accurate and rifles which are not accurate do not interest me in any way, so I sold it or traded it, but it went away. The only other rifle which I have which is not especially accurate is a Winchester M1907 in .351 WSL. It was my grandfathers so I will keep it and it was, at one time, a popular rifle for coyotes and the like in Texas. It is way too heavy for a rifle of that power range (similar to a .357 magnum) and the ammo has to be made by hand with cast bullets unless you can find some stocks of old .351 jacketed bullets. But it is a finely made and unusual rifle, it uses an rod extension "plunger" to operate the bolt to get around the patent Remington had purchased for bolt operation and it is blowback operated with a heavy breechbolck extension. It was a fairly popular "truck gun" in the early 1900s up until after WW2 when the surplus M1 carbines took over that role (probably better) and later the cheap SKS rifles that flooded in from China. They made the same rifle in the useless .32 WSL and more powerful (but much heavier) .401 WSL. They were intended to compete with the Remington M8 and later M81 rifles which chambered useful hunting cartridges. I also have my fathers Remington M81 in .300 Savage, probably one of the best deer cartridges ever made.

[visaveteran1 33]

I bought a caulking gun last weekend and my wifed baked strawberry tarts on Saturday, does that count?

As long as your wife didn't buy the caulking gun and you baked the tarts, you're on the right track. And, if you're into hardware stores that gets a few points. More points if it was an old family run hardware store. Deductions for Home Depot or Ace Hardware.

[visaveteran1 33]

I've never poked fun at my wife. I've posted real stories and/or events, quotes, etc.

This is what happens when we have "visitors" to our forum. I'm glad you pointed it out because I was getting ready to do so.

This is the RUB forum. Guns and pie. Hot chicks. Fat old bald guys. That's what we do. All that OT and P&R ####### needs to stay in the other forums.

I love the 1911. I will be buying one soon. I was carrying the small Para Nite Hawg but I think this go-round I'll be going fullsize with the P-14.

A Kalashnikov is something I've always wanted but never bought. I will be taking care of that soon as well. I'm thinking Yugo underfolder. Thoughts?

I hear this argument quite often. "ARs won't run if you get sand in them." First of all, that's false. I've used an M-16 in sandy conditions and while it won't run like an AK, it will operate, provided you didn't bury it in the sand. If you get a few grains of sand in the action, it'll bind up a little but it's not horrible. It will still operate.

When it's splashed with LSA or CLP or grease or whatever, it will catch sand and get very grainy. Operation in sandy conditions requires a dry lube like graphite or clean with CLP, wipe down to almost no lube at all. A nice air hose will remedy most sand problems if sprayed out daily.

The funny thing about this argument to me is folks who live on the east coast or midwest or something always use this one as justification of why they don't have an AR. "Cause it won't work in the sandbox." Uh, dude, you don't live in the sandbox. You live in the woods.

I'd have to agree with him. Fine rifles, both. But, like women, why would you carry around a big fat one when a lighter, sleeker model is just as good?

The more I use .22s, the more I respect them. They don't make a big splash and a lot of noise... and that's a good thing!

Whoa! That's a huge load!

NICS checks are free. Why is there a $2.00 charge?

Maybe they don't...but the Army PXs with gun counters charge the $2.00, so I thought same-same Navy/Marine Corp. ...hopefully they won't in this case. More icing?

[Captain Hammer 113]

As long as your wife didn't buy the caulking gun and you baked the tarts, you're on the right track. And, if you're into hardware stores that gets a few points. More points if it was an old family run hardware store. Deductions for Home Depot or Ace Hardware.

Nah, I can't cook stuff like that, that's the wife's department. I bought the caulking gun at Lowes so I guess I lose points on that--but I installed and sealed the new tub myself, so that should make up for lost points. Danged if I can think of an actual old-timey hardware store around here though. Used to be an Ace that was family run (or family managed, don't know if Ace are franchised or corporate owned), but that closed down last year. Sadly I think family owned hardware stores are almost extinct these days.

[visaveteran1 33]

It was great! there was an ex-Marine, ex Army, a Cop and an Ultimate fighter all in a HumVee at the beginning talking......and of course ripping on the AF guy....' chair force' and ' fly boy'. He was not as buff and muscle bound as the others and he was praying the first challenge was not a water one. It was and he was the only one who completed it and went on to dispatch the other competitors one by one to win! He was a SrA in Cryptology or Intelligence or something and whilst all the muscle bound buff guys were poking at him....he won!

edit- I was watching last season's rerun of Top Shot and was kind of sad that the AF sniper got eliminated so near the end, but the guy that won, I thought deserved to. the AF guy was very cocky.

YouTube's now famous guns, knives and gear reviewer, "NutNFancy," is an Air Force pilot (I think he just retired) and he seems pretty squared away with most weapons.

[visaveteran1 33]

You mean you can't?

Along with Slim I love the M1911 and have too many of them for my own good. My Dad's is my sentimental favorite but not my favorite to shoot. It was a good design, but the original needed a little tweeking. This one served my father for more than 20 years and he came back alive so I will give it that. When I was a kid it rode on the front seat of the truck (and we didn't have seat belts either! AND the gas tank was in the cab behind the seat...just in case you thought it was dangerous to have guns in the truck with children. Everything is relative) and my first memory of the gun, other than it riding in the truck was my dad coming to a stop, taking a rest on his forearm and capping a cotote with one shot right out the window! Incidentally, that was and IS legal in Texas if you are driving on private property. I was impressed. The coyote did a back flip and landed like he was already a fur collar. I think Kimber makes the best (I could be biased)

I am not one to put sand in my rifle either. Some of them have been muddy and dirty when I was hunting and I had a Remingotn M7600 slide action freeze up on me entirely when it got wet while hunting and then the weather turned cold and it froze up solid. I decided it was too miserable to hunt anyway and took the rifle back and stood it in the bunkhouse and fired up the stove.

Speaking of skeet shooting, I still use Winchester pumps for that, 3 model 12s and a M42 .410. I tried all the rest and like them the best. Sergey and Pasha have been shooting a 20 ga. Ruger red label.

The Shiloh Sharps does heave a huge load. 110 gr. of FFg black powder (it will only fit when poured in through a 30" drop tube to pack it) a card wad, a lubed felt wad and a 550gr chunk of lead, sort of pointed but more like a rounded point. The cartridges look like cigars. Very accurate at extreme range IF you know the range. You can hit 12" steel plate pretty regularly at 1000 yds with that rifle and that is NOT with a scope! That is with a tang mounted peep sight. It is a heavy rifle and is not a bad kicker, it isn't nothing to be sure but no worse than a hunting load in a 12ga shotgun. The boys do not seem as fascinated with it as I am

Slim, my vote for the .45 is for a Kimber. They are not cheap but the quailty is outstanding and feature for feature they are not unreasonable in price. I bought mine by putting it on layaway at the local gun shop and paying it off over a couple months.

I am not an AK guy but I have heard the Yugo AKs are better than any of the Chinese copies. If you can find one of the older ones with a milled receiver as opposed to the stamp one I heard that is great. I did a project for Century International Arms here in Vermont and the AKs they are building there are well put together.

That's because they never put anything in the refrigerator! It is still my duty to patrol the kitchen and put all the stuff away and CLOSE the door on the refrigerator

For the money, the Russian SKS is a great bargain. My son inherited a Russian one from my brother-in-law. I got his Makarov. Both guns seem under-appreciated. Both are great shooters and reliable. SKS shoots the same ammo as the AK.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

For the money, the Russian SKS is a great bargain. My son inherited a Russian one from my brother-in-law. I got his Makarov. Both guns seem under-appreciated. Both are great shooters and reliable. SKS shoots the same ammo as the AK.

The best truck guns were those powerful and accurate enough to kill coyotes and jackrabbits to 100 yds and were cheap. The SKS filled (fills)that role real well. I recall some ads for the Thompson SMG advertised for just that role along with being good for discouraging cattle rustlers. I would say so! The good old days when crime was low and you could have a full auto SMG delivered to your door by mail.

For truck guns I used M1 carbines, a Marlin M99 .22, Winchester M94s and for a while my M1 rifle before I had it fixed up for Service rifle competition. The other requirement should be that you will not whine about it if the gun gets a little rust on it or could even be swiped out of your truck. In the late 80s we could get the SKS rifles for under $100 and M1 carbines were little more than that.

My grandfather had used the M1907 Winchester for that but by the time I got that rifle, ammo was hard to get and it was too valuable as a collectors item to leave in a truck all the time.

The Makarov is not a bad pistol and quite cheap. When they first came available the 9x18 ammo was kind of hard to get but then they started importing them in .380 and also some more makers started bringing in 9x18 ammo. You know, in the 70's such guns and even the ammo was something you read about and never saw. The only guns or ammo you saw was some few SKS rifles being rought back by Viet nam vets. Check out the first edition of "Cartridges of the World" which couldn't even muster a photo of 7.62x39 Remember the CZ75 pistol? People were paying bundles of money for an original CZ75 when very few were being imported. One good thing about Perestroika is it opened up markets for a lot of good guns and ammo we never had access to...and a lot of junk from China.

[AmyWrites 593]

I'm not Russian and hate ice. Talk about diluting drinks.

[Captain Hammer 113]

I'm not Russian and hate ice. Talk about diluting drinks.

That's why you have to chew it all before it dilutes the drink.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I'm not Russian and hate ice. Talk about diluting drinks.

drink faster or get a smaller glass.

I'm not Russian and hate ice. Talk about diluting drinks.

What does that have to do with guns?

[slim 1,523]

I paid about $900 for the Kimber in 2002 (I think, may bave been 2001) and it has a ton of features that if you added up the custom cost it would be easily double that. It also has never jammed or had any problems in any way and weighs 25 oz., very light for a .45

Kimber is absolutely the most custom gun for the money. They've added the "Kimber Custom Shop" and now offer a bunch more upgrades at pretty good rates. You can get a super tricked out 1911 for around $1,200 with things that would run well over $2,000 if done individually.

They're now offering several carry options as well.

I do not carry extra ammo. I feel perfectly well armed with a 5 shot S&W Centennial for that matter. I figure for personal defense the main goal is to be a more difficult target than someone else, not to be able to provide suppressing firepower. I'm guess that the average bad guy would rather try to take someone else's wallet when confronted with a 7 shot .45

When I first started carrying I had my 10+1 and two extra ten round mags.

After a few times going out loaded for bear I realized there was no need for me to carry that much extra ammo. I'd come to the realization that you've posted here. I'm not carrying to face off against a Seal team, I'm carrying to make a bad guy leave me alone. After that, 10+1 was fine.

For ARs I have a "pre-ban" (that doesn't mean anything anymore, really) Sporter A2, just a factory stock service rifle, and a Colt Sporter A3 with 24" stainless HB, flat top and match sights, it is for NRA match rifle shooting. I would like to add an M4 just for fun.

I have a "post-ban" MT-6601 that is my primary rifle. I love that thing. Super accurate. Very dependable.

I've recently set up an M4 style rifle and the more I use the little ones, the more I like the big one. I need a small one for my wife though and the more I trick it out, the more I realize it should be bare bones. You don't need gidgets and gadgets on a rifle. Put that stuff on a shotgun or pistol. ARs are for long range, precision shooting.

I had an all fiberglass AR which weighed like 4 lbs. I forget the maker at the time and now they have sold out and are being made by someone else. It was very light but not at all accurate and rifles which are not accurate do not interest me in any way, so I sold it or traded it, but it went away.

I'm thinking I'm going to trade my tricked out kit build at the gun show next weekend in favor of a plain jane, light barreled M4 for my wife. (Or I may just come home with an AK. Who knows!)

YouTube's now famous guns, knives and gear reviewer, "NutNFancy," is an Air Force pilot (I think he just retired) and he seems pretty squared away with most weapons.

I've seen a few of the videos. I'll be honest, I don't have 12 minutes to watch a video on YouTube. If you can't blow something up in the first minute or two, I don't have time for it.

Now this guy, he knows what's up! -

For the money, the Russian SKS is a great bargain. My son inherited a Russian one from my brother-in-law. I got his Makarov. Both guns seem under-appreciated. Both are great shooters and reliable. SKS shoots the same ammo as the AK.

SKS is still the best deal out there for a semiauto rifle that's pretty decent.

The Makarov is also good although i prefer the Tokarev.

The best truck guns were those powerful and accurate enough to kill coyotes and jackrabbits to 100 yds and were cheap. The SKS filled (fills)that role real well.

My buddy keeps his AK behind his seat. Says it's the best.

Since I'm from Ohio, I don't know what that's like. (Other than in the AF where I'd keep my M-2 up on the roof. HUZZA!!!)

What does that have to do with guns?

Yeah, this thread has been sufficiently hijacked.

[TBoneTX 45,090]

I'm not Russian and hate ice.

One would think that many Russians would hate ICE, if they were here illegally and got deported, si man.