The wife wants to return to Russia

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Most of the Russian bouncers I know spent the 90s in prison for some serious crimes and what you have in your wallet when you go to a "glamornyi" club in Smolensk would have probably fed the cops for a week. Aaand you went there after drinking for eight+ hours. Frankly, I'm surprised that's all that happened to you. I have seen some foreign tourists in bars in my day and I see them as "targets" because they're wasted and have a ton of money and are likely to buy me and all my friends alcohol and then not remember--and I'm not even Russian. Once a guy gave me 50 euros and didn't even realize it. So many people come to Russia and act like complete idiots. The Finns are especially notorious for this.

Anyone in a foreign country has to use their common sense, whether it's Russia or the UK. MAYBE in Canada it'd be ok, because everyone there is so polite. But in Russia, where most guys put in military service and in certain parts of the country, especially years ago, just walking to the store was/is an opportunity for gopniks to come and beat the ####### out of you? Yeah. Don't be stupid is the #1 rule. Follow that and you'll be fine.

Ask the poster "Brad" of "Brad & Vika" about the time he got the bums rush out of a Minsk casino when the house was fleecing a group of Russians on a roulette table and Brad was guilty of winning too much money...or at least how they saw it. 'Rus'...lmao...I could write a book about those people.

I'm not going to get into details of how they were selling their wives, gf's, sisters, whoever at night in the camps knowing we had a pot full of money and nowhere to spend it, or the few times their home brews came up bad and made the entire crew sick as dogs. Or even when they were stealing the camp blind including the basic necessities of the their camp...the one we built for them, or when we used to get an armed guard escort driving from point "A" to point "B". Or better yet when my flight was cancelled in Magadan but the ticket counter chick offered a room at her place as long as I was willing to pay...extra for extra privileges of course.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

What is the problem with meeting my wife on MySpace, Facebook, or their Russian equivalents Moi Mir or Vkontakte?

Does doing so make me any less of a man than you are?

Please explain your motivation to denigrate people who do not follow your standards, without first checking up whether your information is actually accurate.

People mentioned the word "#######-hole," but comments like that bring to mind another ".hole" word.

Not poking any particular person with a sharp stick...

This is just another version of the putrid trash that gets trotted out on this site from time to time. The most common is "I am better because I had a CR-1 instead of a K-1"

How one meets one's spouse has no bearing wehatever on the legitimacy of the relationship. The theory here is "She didn;t want to get married but met me and couldn't help herself because I am siuch a prize" Yeah sure.

On the other hand one may say that a woman advertising on a marriage site is at least of the same mindset as the men looking there.

I met my wife by chance when neiother of us were looing and neither of us were in our home country, so I must be the best, right? Wrong. Our marriage will succeed, I am sure of it, because both of us work hard at it and make each other and the children a priority. We kept our flat in Donetsk and who knows what the future holds. None of this has anything to do with how we met. It has to do with our beliefs about marriage and family and what is important. We are not young either and that tempers what one considers important and material possessions beyond what is needed to provide for a decent life simply aren't on the list. Neither is how we met.

We have all taken our share of bullshite for marrying foreign women, we do not need to give it to each other. Who am I to say that marrying a Ukrainian woman you met by chance is OK but marrying a Russian you met online is wrong? I have tried to pass on my experiences to others in the process and I never ask how they met, what color they are, how old are they or what religion they are, I wish them all the best of luck. While I have been known to be opinionated, you have never seen me judge a person's personal relationship.

I have traveled enough, and been very fortunate to do so, all throughout North America and Europe and there are shitholes everywhere. Barre VT is basically a shithole. But I will drive you 20 minutes from the downtown main street and you will be diving into a crystal clear mountain stream and swear you are in heaven. Alaska has some incredible beauty and I am sure it has some dirty trailer parks or tarpaper shacks. So what? So does every other state in the country. Ukraine has some filthy dirty villages and you cannot believe people live that way, and has some very beautiful architecture and very hospitable people. I loved living there and I love to visit. We have some good friends there, both school teachers and they do not make much money and do not have much "stuff" but they are happy and they will give you ALL their stuff if you need it. I do not know how they met.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Ask the poster "Brad" of "Brad & Vika" about the time he got the bums rush out of a Minsk casino when the house was fleecing a group of Russians on a roulette table and Brad was guilty of winning too much money...or at least how they saw it. 'Rus'...lmao...I could write a book about those people.

I'm not going to get into details of how they were selling their wives, gf's, sisters, whoever at night in the camps knowing we had a pot full of money and nowhere to spend it, or the few times their home brews came up bad and made the entire crew sick as dogs. Or even when they were stealing the camp blind including the basic necessities of the their camp...the one we built for them, or when we used to get an armed guard escort driving from point "A" to point "B". Or better yet when my flight was cancelled in Magadan but the ticket counter chick offered a room at her place as long as I was willing to pay...extra for extra privileges of course.

I was strongly warned to never allow the workers on our project to ever know where I lived. And though my employer provided me with a private driver and general assisstant he told me not to use him to drive me to work (of course he still accepted the PAY for driving me to work ) So I took the bus, which was OK because it was full of hot women giving me a fashion show every day. I did not live in a "camp" with other workers. I lived in a nice flat and commuted to the job site. I met the sisters and wive's friends of many of the men but they were not offered for sale...per se. There was plenty of action available for pay, just walk around the city garden in Odessa any evening, but it was easy to get whatever one wanted at the clubs and cafes, and grocery stores and malls, and...of course there was payment of one sort or another, but that is the case anywhere, n'est pas? Would marrying one of them have been better? Better than Alla? NO WAY!

[mawilson 2,133]

So if there's this guy who puts a gun at my head and say: either you jump off this train or you move to Russia, or I'm gonna cut off your balls and then shoot you in the back, it's something to think about. But if my wife wanted to move to Russia, I would wish her farewell and the best of luck for the rest of her natural life. Life it precious, too precious to #### it up like that.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I was strongly warned to never allow the workers on our project to ever know where I lived. And though my employer provided me with a private driver and general assisstant he told me not to use him to drive me to work (of course he still accepted the PAY for driving me to work ) So I took the bus, which was OK because it was full of hot women giving me a fashion show every day. I did not live in a "camp" with other workers. I lived in a nice flat and commuted to the job site. I met the sisters and wive's friends of many of the men but they were not offered for sale...per se. There was plenty of action available for pay, just walk around the city garden in Odessa any evening, but it was easy to get whatever one wanted at the clubs and cafes, and grocery stores and malls, and...of course there was payment of one sort or another, but that is the case anywhere, n'est pas? Would marrying one of them have been better? Better than Alla? NO WAY!

Iv'e met some super nice RUB's...Kira's family is as good as it gets, and mine looks like a bunch of animals in comparison. Some great people there, but the culture sucks the big one imo when it comes to dirty cops, pay offs, and the brainwashing...

That Magadan thing cost me some $$$ and almost my job. I ended up staying there close to two weeks after I went on a binge and was screwing my brains out and had to bs my way back into a job.

[eekee 182]

I think being a foreign woman in Russia is easier. I've never paid a bribe or fine or anything. Even when I've interacted with police, they've just been like "Oh, American girl? You can go now."

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I think being a foreign woman in Russia is easier. I've never paid a bribe or fine or anything. Even when I've interacted with police, they've just been like "Oh, American girl? You can go now."

Are you saying you never had to do anything for them to get out of a ticket...or even "show em anything" for that matter ?

[eekee 182]

Nope, nothing. Seriously, even for things that could incur a fine by law (vodka on the street, whatever), they have never tried to do anything to me. I have been in far worse situations than that where I could have really been screwed, and nada. Once a detective came to my house, even, but he just took a statement and told me to get new friends.

I mean do you really think the Russian police are so dumb as to try to get a ####### or something from an American, who would obviously immediately run to the US consulate and cause an international scandal?

Edited July 12, 2011 by eekee

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Nope, nothing. Seriously, even for things that could incur a fine by law (vodka on the street, whatever), they have never tried to do anything to me. I have been in far worse situations than that where I could have really been screwed, and nada. Once a detective came to my house, even, but he just took a statement and told me to get new friends.

I mean do you really think the Russian police are so dumb as to try to get a ####### or something from an American, who would obviously immediately run to the US consulate and cause an international scandal?

Trust me on this one...an Alaskan chick in that situation would never run to the American consulate. She might ask for a drink afterwards...but no consulate.

[eekee 182]

Uhh... I guess there's no accounting for taste.

[mawilson 2,133]

Trust me on this one...an Alaskan chick in that situation would never run to the American consulate. She might ask for a drink afterwards...but no consulate.

Real classy.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Real classy.

There's nothing classy about your average Alaskan.

[SMR 368]

Nope, nothing. Seriously, even for things that could incur a fine by law (vodka on the street, whatever), they have never tried to do anything to me. I have been in far worse situations than that where I could have really been screwed, and nada. Once a detective came to my house, even, but he just took a statement and told me to get new friends.

I mean do you really think the Russian police are so dumb as to try to get a ####### or something from an American, who would obviously immediately run to the US consulate and cause an international scandal?

Honestly, I don't think it's just an American female thing. I never had any real trouble from the police. The one time an official solicited a bribe from me was in an airport for overweight baggage. It was pretty clear I could pay the whole fee but he was offering me a "discount" to pay it under the table. On several occasions I was asked to show my passport and registration but never in a way that I thought was unreasonable (I once happened to be leaving the scene of a burglary and was detained for a few minutes until they realized that I lived in the same building and didn't have anything to do with it. I went door to door and several times the police were called on us. There were other similar times, of course.) I've been asked to show ID in America, too.

That's not to say I didn't run into trouble sometimes. I was cornered in dark alleys several times. Mugged and beaten twice. Assaulted by a very drunk man with a dinner fork. But the police were always pretty decent and reasonable. They even helped me out a couple times. I've even asked for directions and such without much hassle.

[eekee 182]

Maybe, SMR, but most foreign guys I know have had to pay fines. It's also probable you never did anything, as to me you seem to be a pretty conservative guy.

Edited July 12, 2011 by eekee

[ONA 133]

Anyone in a foreign country has to use their common sense, whether it's Russia or the UK. MAYBE in Canada it'd be ok, because everyone there is so polite. But in Russia, where most guys put in military service and in certain parts of the country, especially years ago, just walking to the store was/is an opportunity for gopniks to come and beat the ####### out of you? Yeah. Don't be stupid is the #1 rule. Follow that and you'll be fine.

I agree. There are so many foreiners, who just get waisted in clubs in Russia and start being absolutely careless.

There was one time when two guys from my university found a drunk American guy outside of a club here - all he could say was just the name of the hotel he was staying in. They called the hotel and the receptionist said: "An American? Yeah, he's staying here". So they got a cab for him and sent him there. He got very lucky that he was found by those guys, not by some gopniks.

I hate clubs and I don't go there a lot, but even I see that happening. And I hear those stories all the time.

Edited July 12, 2011 by ONA