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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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My God, the fear mongering by a few is just ridiculous.
It's called "hope for the best, prepare for the worst." May your wife never be detained and have to report the reason as "failure to carry green card" on future immigration documents.

As for me, I plan to continue to look both ways before crossing the street, even if there's only a small chance that traffic is around. We're taught that when we're 5 years old.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Serious questions: What are people here on K-1 visas supposed to carry with them at all times before they have a green card? How about people here on student or work visas?

How about natural born US citizens? Should they carry a birth certificate at all times?

Service Center : California Service Center

Consulate : Manila, Philippines

I-129F Sent : 2008-12-02

I-129F Receipt Notice : 2008-12-05

RFE: 2009-02-26

Approval Notice: 2009-03-13

NVC Received: 2009-03-23

Left NVC: 2009-05-12

Stuck at NVC 50 days

Interview: 2009-06-23 Passed!

Visa picked up: 2009-06-25

POE Detroit: 2009-07-04

Married: 2009-09-11

Filed for AOS: 2009-09-22

Biometrics taken: 2009-10-29

Advance Parole approved 2009-11-04

Employment Authorization approved 2009-11-04

AOS Appointment 2009-12-15

AOS Approved 2009-12-15

Green Card Received 2010-01-02

Filed for ROC: 2011-09-17

ROC approved 2012-03-21

Green Card Received 2012-03-26

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Serious questions: What are people here on K-1 visas supposed to carry with them at all times before they have a green card? How about people here on student or work visas?

Are you serious? Whatever status you have, you always have proof of that. For F-1 student that would be I-20 and I-94.

How about natural born US citizens? Should they carry a birth certificate at all times?

US citizens, natural born or naturalized, however, do not have to carry anything by law. They can just say that they are citizens. That's why saying that you are a citizen while you are not is the worst inexcusable immigration crime you can commit.
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Serious questions: What are people here on K-1 visas supposed to carry with them at all times before they have a green card? How about people here on student or work visas?

How about natural born US citizens? Should they carry a birth certificate at all times?

K-1s are supposed to carry their passport, I-94

Alla carries a copy of her green card and keeps the original at home. It can be produced if needed. The law requires all aliens over age 18 to carry their green card with them at all times. This is not enforced in some areas, Vermont is one of them, and we do not want to pay for a lost card. No one here has ever asked for her green card and never shown an interest in it if it was offered except for going to or coming back from Canada. We do not have much if an illegal alien problem here

I have a Vermont "enhanced drivers lisence" which serves to verify my citizenship and I can use it to enter Canada and return which I seem to do a couple times each week.

VERMONT! I Reject Your Reality...and Substitute My Own!

Gary And Alla

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Glad I saw this thread ... Its convinced me to remove the green card from my wife's wallet and keep it somewhere safe. My God, the fear mongering by a few is just ridiculous.

I'll just leave this here.

(A recently documented case on VJ where somebody got held by CBP in New Mexico for not having their green card on their person and who is now facing the awkwardness of having to check 'yes' to the "have you ever been arrested, detained......." question on their I-751)

Adjustment of Status from K-1 (Very abridged version)

05/20/08 - POE: Chicago O'Hare

07/18/08 - Married

08/30/08 - I-485/I-765 mailed...

03/17/09 - Card production ordered (no notification received!)

03/26/09 - Green card received (196 days)

Removal of Conditions

02/15/11 - I-751 mailed to VSC...

02/22/11 - NOA1 (received 03/03/11)

04/04/11 - Biometrics appt (notice received 03/19/11)

08/22/11 - * * * t u m b l e w e e d s * * * (T+6 months and counting)

09/20/11 - Service Request #1

10/26/11 - Service Request #2

11/29/11 - Interview @ Atlanta Field Office - Approved & I-551 stamped

12/07/11 - Card production ordered

12/10/11 - Green card received (293 days)

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In my opinion it has nothing to do with fear mongering and everything to do with not intentionally breaking the law. We know the law says my husband has to carry his at all times so he does. I would much rather have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it.

I have only personally lost my wallet once in my 31 years, and I was lucky enough that it was returned to me in the same state it was lost in, money and cards in tact. My husband has never had his wallet lost or stolen in his 31 years. Does that mean we're immune to it happening? Of course not. But 31 years is long enough in my opinion to feel that it's a highly unlikely situation for us to worry about. So, we hope that our luck continues to hold out and we follow the law. $450 is a lot of money, but in our opinion it's a small amount to worry about compared to having to check misdemeanor on any future forms my husband has to fill out. Better safe than sorry!

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I'll just leave this here.

(A recently documented case on VJ where somebody got held by CBP in New Mexico for not having their green card on their person and who is now facing the awkwardness of having to check 'yes' to the "have you ever been arrested, detained......." question on their I-751)

awkwardness? it's like ticking yes when having a speeding fine. It's not something that will get them deported. So not the drama you're making it out to be.

That said, a lot of people have already said when too far from home take it. When close to borders, take it. When leaving the country, take it. The person you quoted travelled interstate without their GC, even I, as someone who doesn't carry it, would take it if travelling interstate or too far from home (we drove 4 hours away and I took it, didn't want to as it was to a themepark and loss is high in places like that but I still took it because getting it from home would have taken too long).

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In my opinion it has nothing to do with fear mongering and everything to do with not intentionally breaking the law. We know the law says my husband has to carry his at all times so he does.

I like your attitude and wish more people here on VJ would follow the law by the letter. I used to carry my Green Card with me "at all times" as the law requires. When going to the beach I had it dangling on a chain around my neck and that really got me the looks from the Hispanic community, like showing off. I didn't care. More complicated was wearing it in the shower, but again I had it dangling around my neck, but that was nothing compared to having sex. Here the card was smashing in my wife's face when I was on top, but the other place to put it would really be in the only body cavity I could use when not talking or moaning, but hat would make some kind of sex impossible or rather painful. So, again, I'm glad you have found a solution to carry the Green Card "at all times." Have you ever had surgery with the card dangling around your neck, by the way?

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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I like your attitude and wish more people here on VJ would follow the law by the letter.
Bob, this is neither funny nor responsible. If people follow the damned law, they avoid risking trouble. Period. Just wait until someone else reports having been detained by very humorless CBP/ICE agents because they took the damned law as casually as you recommend that they do. You normally give great and very entertaining answers, but this one is a total crock.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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I like your attitude and wish more people here on VJ would follow the law by the letter. I used to carry my Green Card with me "at all times" as the law requires. When going to the beach I had it dangling on a chain around my neck and that really got me the looks from the Hispanic community, like showing off. I didn't care. More complicated was wearing it in the shower, but again I had it dangling around my neck, but that was nothing compared to having sex. Here the card was smashing in my wife's face when I was on top, but the other place to put it would really be in the only body cavity I could use when not talking or moaning, but hat would make some kind of sex impossible or rather painful. So, again, I'm glad you have found a solution to carry the Green Card "at all times." Have you ever had surgery with the card dangling around your neck, by the way?

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Service Center : California Service Center

Consulate : Manila, Philippines

I-129F Sent : 2008-12-02

I-129F Receipt Notice : 2008-12-05

RFE: 2009-02-26

Approval Notice: 2009-03-13

NVC Received: 2009-03-23

Left NVC: 2009-05-12

Stuck at NVC 50 days

Interview: 2009-06-23 Passed!

Visa picked up: 2009-06-25

POE Detroit: 2009-07-04

Married: 2009-09-11

Filed for AOS: 2009-09-22

Biometrics taken: 2009-10-29

Advance Parole approved 2009-11-04

Employment Authorization approved 2009-11-04

AOS Appointment 2009-12-15

AOS Approved 2009-12-15

Green Card Received 2010-01-02

Filed for ROC: 2011-09-17

ROC approved 2012-03-21

Green Card Received 2012-03-26

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I'll just leave this here.

(A recently documented case on VJ where somebody got held by CBP in New Mexico for not having their green card on their person and who is now facing the awkwardness of having to check 'yes' to the "have you ever been arrested, detained......." question on their I-751)

Don't live in Texas or anywhere near the Mexico border. Seriously, there is -0- chance of a federal agent walking up to my filipino wife and ssking her for her green card.

Service Center : California Service Center

Consulate : Manila, Philippines

I-129F Sent : 2008-12-02

I-129F Receipt Notice : 2008-12-05

RFE: 2009-02-26

Approval Notice: 2009-03-13

NVC Received: 2009-03-23

Left NVC: 2009-05-12

Stuck at NVC 50 days

Interview: 2009-06-23 Passed!

Visa picked up: 2009-06-25

POE Detroit: 2009-07-04

Married: 2009-09-11

Filed for AOS: 2009-09-22

Biometrics taken: 2009-10-29

Advance Parole approved 2009-11-04

Employment Authorization approved 2009-11-04

AOS Appointment 2009-12-15

AOS Approved 2009-12-15

Green Card Received 2010-01-02

Filed for ROC: 2011-09-17

ROC approved 2012-03-21

Green Card Received 2012-03-26

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  • 4 months later...

I know this is an old thread and all, but I have just received my green card and been wondering whether to take it with me everywhere or leave it inside our apartment and keep a copy in my wallet. Based on what I've read in this thread, I think I'm going to keep my green card in a safe place, even though I'm legally required to have it with me at all times. The $450 replacement cost made the decision very easy to make! :yes: Plus, this is San Francisco. It doesn't seem to be a place where immigrants are pulled over on the street and asked for proof of legal status.

USCIS

03/21/11 - I-130 petition sent

03/25/11 - NOA1

09/08/11 - NOA2

NVC

09/12/11 - Case received by NVC

09/29/11 - NVC case number generated

09/30/11 - Received DS-3032 and I-864 bill

10/02/11 - Paid I-864 bill and emailed DS-3032

10/03/11 - NVC accepted DS-3032

10/04/11 - Received IV bill/I-864 bill marked as paid

10/21/11 - Paid IV bill10/24/11 - IV bill marked as paid

11/03/11 - Mailed I-864 and DS-230 packages

11/04/11 - I-864 and DS-230 packages reached NVC

11/10/11 - Case completed

11/29/11 - Received interview appointment letter

SLEC/Manila Consulate

11/04/11 & 11/08/11 - Medical exam completed and passed

01/03/12 - Interview - Approved!

01/04/12 - Visa issued

01/09/12 - Visa received

US Entry

01/17/12 - POE: Honolulu; with connecting flight to San Francisco

02/09/12 - Applied for SSN at SSA office

02/11/12 - Welcome letter arrived in the mail

02/13/12 - 2-yr green card arrived in the mail

Removal of Conditions

12/09/13 - I-751 petition sent

12/11/13 - NOA1 receipt date

12/12/13 - Money order cashed

01/06/14 - Biometrics appointment

04/10/14 - RFE

07/03/14 - RFE response sent

07/22/14 - ROC approved!

07/31/14 - Estimated arrival of 10-year GC, according to USPS tracking

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I know this is an old thread and all, but I have just received my green card and been wondering whether to take it with me everywhere or leave it inside our apartment and keep a copy in my wallet. Based on what I've read in this thread, I think I'm going to keep my green card in a safe place, even though I'm legally required to have it with me at all times. The $450 replacement cost made the decision very easy to make! :yes: Plus, this is San Francisco. It doesn't seem to be a place where immigrants are pulled over on the street and asked for proof of legal status.

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Service Center : California Service Center

Consulate : Manila, Philippines

I-129F Sent : 2008-12-02

I-129F Receipt Notice : 2008-12-05

RFE: 2009-02-26

Approval Notice: 2009-03-13

NVC Received: 2009-03-23

Left NVC: 2009-05-12

Stuck at NVC 50 days

Interview: 2009-06-23 Passed!

Visa picked up: 2009-06-25

POE Detroit: 2009-07-04

Married: 2009-09-11

Filed for AOS: 2009-09-22

Biometrics taken: 2009-10-29

Advance Parole approved 2009-11-04

Employment Authorization approved 2009-11-04

AOS Appointment 2009-12-15

AOS Approved 2009-12-15

Green Card Received 2010-01-02

Filed for ROC: 2011-09-17

ROC approved 2012-03-21

Green Card Received 2012-03-26

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That little paper envelope is supposed to stop hacker access? Really?

I doubt it. The little envelope that came with my green card was just a regular Tyvek envelope with no obvious RFID blocker (the same kind I use for credit and debit cards to prevent scratches or damage to the magnetic strip)... I'm not sure though (I didn't take it apart) - I'm actually using the little envelope because unlike regular Tyvek sleeves, it actually protects the whole card because the opening is on top and not at the side with a thumb cutout which exposes part of the card.

F & J

 

I-130 / IR-5 TIMELINE (Petition for Mother)

2016/11/14 — I-130 sent via USPS Priority Mail Express 1-Day

2016/11/15 — I-130 delivered at 11:20 am in PHOENIX, AZ 85034 to BANK ONE, signed for by J LOPEZ; Priority Date  |  2016/11/17 Receipt Date

2016/11/18 I-797C Notice Date; USCIS Acceptance Confirmation Email, case routed to Nebraska Service Center  |  2016/11/21I-797C Postmark

2017/01/18 I-797 Approval Notice Date  |  2017/01/19I-797 Postmark  |  2017/01/23 I-797 Approval Notice hard copy received

 

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