hypothetically speaking

[David & Kezia 25]

I am torn between laughing with the various posts and pitying the OP. We've all known him quite well (and scorned him too) from his posts these previous year, but he keeps on being stubborn and ignoring all the red flags.

opsss... too, sorry

[~happyndinlove~ 540]

mm.dd.yyyy - Waiting for her Kid's K2

Hypothetical:

Fiancee does not want to come to the US without her child. Junior agrees. The father of the child is not agreeable to let child go. To bring the child with her a court battle must be won. Court battle may take longer than 6 months. Fiancee visa expires 6 months from date of issue. Fiancee suggests cancel and reissue later. Junior says, I don't know if that is a possibility. Junior starts a thread and asks the question.

Edited May 17, 2011 by ~happyndinlove~

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

mm.dd.yyyy - Waiting for her Kid's K2

Hypothetical:

Fiancee does not want to come to the US without her child. Junior agrees. The father of the child is not agreeable to let child go. To bring the child with her a court battle must be won. Court battle may take longer than 6 months. Fiancee visa expires 6 months from date of issue. Fiancee suggests cancel and reissue later. Junior says, I don't know if that is a possibility. Junior starts a thread and asks the question.

That is a very good hypothetical....

In that case he really should be asking for advice from others who have been in the same situation. If the mother was never married to the father then the bio-father has no say in the matter and several members here could advise him to such.

Instead the OP has a history of asking cryptic questions that put his Pinay in question and only slowly over time finally giving relevant info so Vjers can actually help him with the core issue.

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

Actually, I se from looking at the list of the OP's topics (that were requested deleted yet) that they are waiting for the K-2 casefile to be transferred from Abu Dbahi to Manila.

Again, I just don't know why the OP had to ask in such a cryptic manner.

[sunandmoon 450]

I guess it's not hypothetical anymore since you put in your timeline the POE as "postponed" or "cancelled." What happened Jr? There is no cancellation of an issued visa.

it now changed to... •mm.dd.yyyy - Waiting for her Kid's K2

yeah, I have good eyes also...

[~happyndinlove~ 540]

Actually, I se from looking at the list of the OP's topics (that were requested deleted yet) that they are waiting for the K-2 casefile to be transferred from Abu Dbahi to Manila.

Again, I just don't know why the OP had to ask in such a cryptic manner.

I guess nobody knows except the OP...but he did make a stick to the topic request. Perhaps he anticipated potentially unwanted feedback.

I am curious, can the bio-father cause a delay? Example, not married but the father was caring for the child while mom was away.?

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

I guess nobody knows except the OP...but he did make a stick to the topic request. Perhaps he anticipated potentially unwanted feedback.

Based on the OP's previous threads (especially the ones he requested deleted) and his cryptic posting method he should expect speculation and side talk.

I am curious, can the bio-father cause a delay? Example, not married but the father was caring for the child while mom was away?

Only if the biological father has sought & received paternal rights in the Philippine Court System, otherwise the mother of a child born out of wedlock has complete & sole authority over the child. See links in my signature.

[~happyndinlove~ 540]

Only if the biological father has sought & received paternal rights in the Philippine Court System, otherwise the mother of a child born out of wedlock has complete & sole authority over the child. See links in my signature.

Thanks for the info Bob.

btw,,,I'm sure you got some recent good news regarding the Fili forum being (temporarily) .hmmmm...cleaned up a bit..? ...and some words of...hmmm....wisdom delivered? I'm guessing you can decipher this cryptic message. I'm tightroping TOS here?

[rlogan 2,036]

Two ways to handle things in life:

We let our ego control us or we control our ego!

This is called a chiasm. You see preachers using it a lot to make logical fallacies appear like wisdom.

A chiasm has symmetry like a poem does. In this case you have used the form ABBA. Because of the symmetry, it is pleasing to the ear, just like a rhyme or a song.

Another example for silly illustration: Don't dip your wick, or your wick will dip you. In this way, you can make any ridiculous thing sound "catchy". People with feeble minds give far too much weight to chiasms.

I feel pity for a man when his ego dictates his life. The more your scratch your rash the more it will itch. (Ego in action)

My 2 cents!

The interesting thing about this personal attack - and it is the second one - is that you are insisting to be the forgiving one; the one with the sense of humanity; the gentleman suffering stoicly.

But there's nothing gentlemanly about these personal attacks. They don't bother me because I am a student of manipulation and understand what the objective is here. I am invited to feel ashamed of myself. (It's called "shaming", and the irony is that the manipulator strikes at your ego with the shaming tactic whilst saying you should not let your ego control you!)

So you know that's why I point out the chiasm above. Because it is like using a poem to conceal an attack on a person's ego in order to manipulate them. It is actually the exact opposite of what it pretends to be and is therefore highly deceptive - it uses your ego against you while claiming to be the advice of not letting your ego get the best of you.

Dissecting manipulation is fascinating to me so thanks for the opportunity.

The backdrop to this whole relationship drama has been the insinuated theme that she is manipulating you for an immigration visa. But the record has been created by you, and it contains an awful lot of manipulative tactics - all the cryptic statements instead of frank, clear communication... insinuation and allusions instead of plain facts. The speaking in riddles and the shaming, guilt-tripping etc. like above.

After instilling doubts in our minds with all these red flags, then you've attacked us for having the doubts you put in our minds in the first place. Classic.

She may indeed be manipulative, but there's no doubt that you are, and I don't mean it as a personal attack. But rather, we are being manipulated here and whatever the whole story is - we're not getting it. One possibility is that all the cryptic red flags are just little plays you're making.

I don't know. The only one who knows is the one concealing things behind the cryptic insinuations and these manipulative responses.

Cheers.

[jrmejia 31]

I raised so many questions and they are ignored.

I will ask a simple question.

For those who have bird feeder, do you bring your bird feeder out in the spring or in the winter.?

PS. I love the kid !!! regardless.

[sunandmoon 450]

I raised so many questions and they are ignored.

I will ask a simple question.

For those who have bird feeder, do you bring your bird feeder out in the spring or in the winter.?

Bird feeding is a year-round activity, so don't take down your feeders when the warm weather comes. You may miss out on the cardinal and his mate feeding in the spring. Or you could miss adult birds bringing their offspring in the summer to teach them about your feeding source.

PS. I love the kid !!! regardless.

which questions, about the visa process, have been ignored?

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

btw,,,I'm sure you got some recent good news regarding the Fili forum being (temporarily) .hmmmm...cleaned up a bit..? ...and some words of...hmmm....wisdom delivered? I'm guessing you can decipher this cryptic message. I'm tightroping TOS here?

Message understood and the answer is yes, enjoying the quiet around here.

PS. I love the kid !!! regardless.

I love both children my Anna had before I came into their lives but I don't refer to either of them as "the kid", they both have names.

Regardless, your questions were answered but you have failed to respond (as we've come to expect) to come valid points.

Why did you're question have to be so cryptic (again)? You cold have simply said my GF is in Abu Dahbi and "the kid" is still in the Philippines, will the K-2 case be able to get transfered & issued before the GF's Visa expires or should I cancel her K-1? See that would have eliminated all of the "off topic" chatter you wanted to avoid, instead YOU CHOSE to word it in such a way.

To claim you want to avoid subterfuge & drama while going out of your way to create it is deceptive, yes that's a fancy word for dishonest or lying.

[Tahoma 2,292]

Hello guys,

Let say your fiance/e already has her/his K1 visa approved. Later there is a decision to cancel the visa while the fiance/e is in her/his country. What the petitioner needs to do?

JR...There is a VJ member who is going through the same thing that you are. Maybe he can help you.

Here is that member's profile.

[jrmejia 31]

I used the word "the kid" because I rarely like given personal information.

Let me repeat it once more "I love the kid...my future step son"

There is a saying "always read the fine print".

[Tahoma 2,292]

JR...There is a VJ member who is going through the same thing that you are. Maybe he can help you.

Here is that member's profile.

There is a saying "always read the fine print".

What did the fine print say on the link I gave you?