Interesting Article on Scams in FSU

[slim 1,523]

Is it still archived here?

It should be. I don't know the name of it but I'd be willing to bet a little search-fu with AKDiver, INTERPOL, etc., would turn up some results.

Gosh, I remember AKDiver well. He was applying for a visa about the same time I was with my first fiancee. I do remember him asking about how she could bring either $ 50,000 or $ 150,000 with her safely when she came but missed the follow up story on that one. That is a real shocker. Heck, he probably thought he had stuck it rich with all the money she brought but I am sure it was a shocker for him when the police arrived and pulled them in.

I want to say she had a travel company or something and worked with the banks when she sold her business. She had a good sum of money when she came here. I wonder who hit the jackpot on that one!

If a girl has you in the shopping mall looking at $ 400.00 shoes an hour after you arrive dump her right away.

I try to tell guys to do what they'd do back home, even though they're on the other side of the world. If she's asking for this or that, chances are she'll expect that forever and if you can't give it to her, she'll ask someone else.

Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with helping a little if you are doing a K-1.

It's all about who's asking. If she's asking for $$$$$ all the time, RED FLAG. If you're offering, no worries. Although, most women will turn down offers a time or two. You can't just buy them, after all!

[Turboguy 6]

It's all about who's asking. If she's asking for $$$$$ all the time, RED FLAG. If you're offering, no worries. Although, most women will turn down offers a time or two. You can't just buy them, after all!

I do think that sometimes there is a mentality when someone is searching for a wife from the FSU that he is rescuing her from poverty and that Russia is a poor third world country. That may have been true 15 years ago but its not true any more. If a woman was able to survive before she met her man there is no reason to think she can't survive while waiting for a K-1 to come through. I also agree that you can't buy love and if you try to get a girl to love you buy buying her expensive gifts you are probably setting yourself up for failure after she does arrive.

I have had more than enough experiences with scammers during my search and its an easy trap to fall into. Some of the things I have seen with other guys make me wonder how someone can throw so much money at a woman who wants nothing but what she can get from a guy and not know they are being used.

I always think back to a friend of mine who has made every mistake in the book and his comment that the one lady he persued for a few years had told him she had decided she didn't want to leave her family but even if they had no future they would always be friends. Then he added that they would be friends as long as he kept sending money anyway. It was true.

I see nothing wrong with sending money when it is appropriate, perhaps a special need or the costs related to the visa but I have seen guys who sent a fiancee $ 1000.00 a month and that is stupid.

[slim 1,523]

I have seen guys who sent a fiancee $ 1000.00 a month and that is stupid.

I wonder what her allowance is once she gets here. That is, after the new clothes, car, college, etc.

Like I've said a million times - if you have the money, have at it. But, just know, once she gets here, cost of living goes up!

[Turboguy 6]

I am not so sure the cost of living goes up but I am sure for most it does. My wife is about the most frugal person I have ever met. My heating bill is now about $ 500.00 less a month during the winter than it was. Of course we sit around under blankets and freeze a lot. Even alowing for her school tuition and driving into the side of a house on her third day of driving I probably spend less than I did before she arrived. Of course I can look at the other bright side, once she eventually graduates she may end up making more money than I do.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I am not so sure the cost of living goes up but I am sure for most it does. My wife is about the most frugal person I have ever met. My heating bill is now about $ 500.00 less a month during the winter than it was. Of course we sit around under blankets and freeze a lot. Even alowing for her school tuition and driving into the side of a house on her third day of driving I probably spend less than I did before she arrived. Of course I can look at the other bright side, once she eventually graduates she may end up making more money than I do.

LOL... how bad was the side of the house afterwards ?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Even alowing for her school tuition and driving into the side of a house on her third day of driving

WINNER! Alla only hit mailboxes! she did back out of the grage without opening the door though. Does that count?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

WINNER! Alla only hit mailboxes! she did back out of the grage without opening the door though. Does that count?

She forgot to open the door first ? Now that's a classic.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

The trouble I had with all of it was that mcat would post up that crazy story for all the newbies to read, then mash the report button to have all the advice removed if he was insulted. The guy is/was very thin skinned, but very skilled at getting mods to regulate the negatives he read. Ultimately he usually asked for threads to be removed - so the ugly story was remembered, but the constructive advice was all lost.

Seems typical of people that say they are married to Ukrainian women but are really just phonies.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

She forgot to open the door first ? Now that's a classic.

Plus she hit the door rails a few times, nothing I couldn't straighten with a small sledge hammer. But I never firgured this out...she drives STRAIGHT in th garage, why not just back STRAIGHT out? Why the compulsion to turn the wheels one way or the other?

And I shall not metion the poor garbage can.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Plus she hit the door rails a few times, nothing I couldn't straighten with a small sledge hammer. But I never firgured this out...she drives STRAIGHT in th garage, why not just back STRAIGHT out? Why the compulsion to turn the wheels one way or the other?

And I shall not metion the poor garbage can.

Women drivers is all I can say.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Some of you ol' timers might remember AKDiver, whose wife came to the US and got a job at a bank. After a few months, INTERPOL came and raided their house, arrested her, and hauled her off to jail. Seems she'd stolen several hundred thousand dollars from the bank she worked at back home and was fixing to do the same thing at the bank she worked at now. He went on to post that she'd had several husbands in different countries and whenever she'd pull a bank job, she'd move on to the next husband.

I forget the specifics, but she'd pulled something like three or four jobs and was a multi-millionaire. AKDiver was hauled in as well and suspected of aiding her.. then released for lack of evidence.

It was an awesome story and went on for like three pages... and then he posted it was all a hoax.

I seem to remember AKDiver but do not remember that story.

It is better than the PI runners though that just go for some surfer guy or something. When the RUB women go bad...they go really bad!

[Turboguy 6]

LOL... how bad was the side of the house afterwards ?

Actually the house did much better than my pickup truck. She drove into a brick wall and it wasn't damaged. I really didn't want to turn the truck into the insurance company with her being on the third day of a learners permit so I paid for it out of my own pocket and it was 5 grand to get the truck fixed. Plus I was scheduled to go to Florida for a trade show and had to rent a rider truck which added another grand.

She did her best on that brick wall though. I still remember us sitting there with the front of the truck up against the wall and her pressing the gas pedal to the floor trying to push over the house.

As far as Gary's comment that when RW go bad they really go bad, the one I remember most was one young guy who was quite active about the same time AK Diver was here. I won't say who it was since this was told to me in confidence. It's been years and I don't think the story itself will hurt anything. One member brought a gal from S.P. on a K-1 and came back early from work one day. She had been doing naked web cam with about 20 different guys.

[Codeblue009 3]

Actually the house did much better than my pickup truck. She drove into a brick wall and it wasn't damaged. I really didn't want to turn the truck into the insurance company with her being on the third day of a learners permit so I paid for it out of my own pocket and it was 5 grand to get the truck fixed. Plus I was scheduled to go to Florida for a trade show and had to rent a rider truck which added another grand.

She did her best on that brick wall though. I still remember us sitting there with the front of the truck up against the wall and her pressing the gas pedal to the floor trying to push over the house.

As far as Gary's comment that when RW go bad they really go bad, the one I remember most was one young guy who was quite active about the same time AK Diver was here. I won't say who it was since this was told to me in confidence. It's been years and I don't think the story itself will hurt anything. One member brought a gal from S.P. on a K-1 and came back early from work one day. She had been doing naked web cam with about 20 different guys.

I can tell you a story of a girl I was dating in Simferepol. Long story short, after I went to see her and came back home, she told me she needed 1000.00 or else someone was gong to kill her. I told her I would see what I could do and I never called her again. Went back to Simferopol 3 months later and saw her on the street kissing her boyfriend. She saw me looking and was shocked, but I just smiled and laughed! I should have told her I visit the Ukraine (at that time 18 times) a lot!!!

[LvivLovers 39]

As far as the ladies spending money...I just told her all the money was hers and she could spend what she wants...but then we won't have it for something else. She's been ultra conservative ever since! lol She makes budgets all the time and won't buy anything unless it's a steal. I also showed her how all the money stuff works...bank accounts, credit cards, bills, taxes, health insurance, life insurance, medical bills, etc...she is way better at that stuff than any American girl I ever dated. No complaints here at all about her spending!

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

As far as the ladies spending money...I just told her all the money was hers and she could spend what she wants...but then we won't have it for something else. She's been ultra conservative ever since! lol She makes budgets all the time and won't buy anything unless it's a steal. I also showed her how all the money stuff works...bank accounts, credit cards, bills, taxes, health insurance, life insurance, medical bills, etc...she is way better at that stuff than any American girl I ever dated. No complaints here at all about her spending!

I have never complained about Alla regarding spending. She is the biggest bargain hunter you ever want to see and really very frugal. More than me, actually. She has a lot of credit cards now but none with any balances. If Macy's is going to give her another 10% off the sweater she is buying on sale for $7 she will use the card, come home and write a check and send it in. She makes her "own money" with her interpretation and occasional modeling. But then she will go out and buy a new sofa some other items for the house. It isn't like she keeps it for herself.

I cannot complain about that. Her driving...

Actually the house did much better than my pickup truck. She drove into a brick wall and it wasn't damaged. I really didn't want to turn the truck into the insurance company with her being on the third day of a learners permit so I paid for it out of my own pocket and it was 5 grand to get the truck fixed. Plus I was scheduled to go to Florida for a trade show and had to rent a rider truck which added another grand.

She did her best on that brick wall though. I still remember us sitting there with the front of the truck up against the wall and her pressing the gas pedal to the floor trying to push over the house.

As far as Gary's comment that when RW go bad they really go bad, the one I remember most was one young guy who was quite active about the same time AK Diver was here. I won't say who it was since this was told to me in confidence. It's been years and I don't think the story itself will hurt anything. One member brought a gal from S.P. on a K-1 and came back early from work one day. She had been doing naked web cam with about 20 different guys.

They are not for beginners.

Edited May 10, 2011 by Gary and Alla