I feel like such a moron...

[Ilona&Rimas 1]

Agreed, I stand corrected. But he had a thread about making copies, etc. and there was a lot of advice on how to carefully complete the package.

I apologize for the inappropriate remark.

[MatthewNCarolina 73]

Since you didn't take our first offer of advise to go through everything carefully and take your time, I think you should wait for the package to come back and make sure there aren't any other errors. Everything should be done in slow, calm, logical steps if you don't want to worry or have the hassle of an RFE letter later. Even when doing it right you'll still be worried about a mistake. Try and take your time and do it right the first time.

Good luck, hoping the best for you.

"Try and take your time and do it right the first time."...He did take his time, been working on it for almost 2 months EVERYDAY. He followed most of the steps on visa journey step here(btw MANY errors, no wonder so many people gets RFE's for not knowing how to fill in the forms and letters if you follow EVERYTHING here) There was over 200 pages, of course it could happen. First read everything, then give ''advices''.

Carolina.

[TeddyHoney 42]

Hey all. I was taking a look at my copy petition... I swear I do not know how I overlooked the signature and date on the biographic data form....I understand they might send the petition back to me for my signature? They're supposed to receive my petition package at the dallas lockbox facility at around 12:00PM tomorrow.... damn am I ever dejected over this... Everything else in the whole petition is signed.... Will they take it further and then eventually send an RFE or will they just send it right back for my signature? Thanks

Matt

Don't feel bad about that. It can happen to anyone and the reason most of the time is cuz you looked at the documents sooooo many times. You wonder how you may have over-looked that? Well, really you didn't. I have worked in IT as a programmer/analyst for nearly 30 years and we always have code reviews and readings just for that reason. The original developer has looked at the code for so long that the time comes when they can no longer see mistake in the code that may be right in front of them - so we have code reviews. That is probably what happened to you - you looked at those documents so many times and for so long, the empty space just didn't stand out to you - didn't register to your brain even it was right there!

I did the same thing on my I-129F I didn't put my SS# and didn't see it until months after I sent it. But I had a VISA service review my documents before they sent them in and they "said" they probably caught it. I guess we will see if I get RFE or not.

Anyway God bless in your journey!

[Piefre 15]

"Try and take your time and do it right the first time."...He did take his time, been working on it for almost 2 months EVERYDAY. He followed most of the steps on visa journey step here(btw MANY errors, no wonder so many people gets RFE's for not knowing how to fill in the forms and letters if you follow EVERYTHING here) There was over 200 pages, of course it could happen. First read everything, then give ''advices''.

Carolina.

Just out of curiousity, what were some of the errors you found in the steps on VisaJourney? Just so future people doing this and following VJ's guides will know.

[MatthewNCarolina 73]

Just out of curiousity, what were some of the errors you found in the steps on VisaJourney? Just so future people doing this and following VJ's guides will know.

Hey, I read her post. I'm sorry I think she meant advice from tons of different people at once. There weren't any errors in the guides for sure, when I used them.

Matt

[MatthewNCarolina 73]

Don't feel bad about that. It can happen to anyone and the reason most of the time is cuz you looked at the documents sooooo many times. You wonder how you may have over-looked that? Well, really you didn't. I have worked in IT as a programmer/analyst for nearly 30 years and we always have code reviews and readings just for that reason. The original developer has looked at the code for so long that the time comes when they can no longer see mistake in the code that may be right in front of them - so we have code reviews. That is probably what happened to you - you looked at those documents so many times and for so long, the empty space just didn't stand out to you - didn't register to your brain even it was right there!

I did the same thing on my I-129F I didn't put my SS# and didn't see it until months after I sent it. But I had a VISA service review my documents before they sent them in and they "said" they probably caught it. I guess we will see if I get RFE or not.

Anyway God bless in your journey!

Thankyou very much for your reply. I think that is what happened. I swore I checked for everything, many times... only when I finally relaxed after sending the petition and went to count how many pages I submitted, is when I saw it.

God bless you too!

[Piefre 15]

Hey, I read her post. I'm sorry I think she meant advice from tons of different people at once. There weren't any errors in the guides for sure, when I used them.

Matt

Oh good! I almost had a heart attack because I followed the guides very closely. *Puts back her panic button*

[TeddyHoney 42]

Thankyou very much for your reply. I think that is what happened. I swore I checked for everything, many times... only when I finally relaxed after sending the petition and went to count how many pages I submitted, is when I saw it.

God bless you too!

You're very welcome even though it didn't help much at this point I just didn't want you to feel like a moron cuz you're not. Same thing happens more often than not to most of us in similar situation!

Take care!

[MatthewNCarolina 73]

Oh good! I almost had a heart attack because I followed the guides very closely. *Puts back her panic button*

yeaaa, don't worry

You're very welcome even though it didn't help much at this point I just didn't want you to feel like a moron cuz you're not. Same thing happens more often than not to most of us in similar situation!

Take care!

I won't forget your kind words, that's for sure

[Amber & Ahmed 133]

Hey all. I was taking a look at my copy petition... I swear I do not know how I overlooked the signature and date on the biographic data form....I understand they might send the petition back to me for my signature? They're supposed to receive my petition package at the dallas lockbox facility at around 12:00PM tomorrow.... damn am I ever dejected over this... Everything else in the whole petition is signed.... Will they take it further and then eventually send an RFE or will they just send it right back for my signature? Thanks

Matt

Matt, Hi I am sure others have answered you by now... but from one moron to another.... I DID THE SAME THING!!! We waited 5 1/2 months got an RFE... I didnt sign the G325 form so they sent it to me and I signed it and off to the post office 5 mins after I got the snailmail, so relax and wait and sign the dang form! LOL Good luck on your journey! Oh by the way it only put us 1 week out of the loop, so its not so bad! Could be much worse...

[jkelly07 120]

if you just sent the file, may be take a chance send the signed form today.at this point what do you have to lose, hope it gets mached up. if not then wait for a rfe.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Signatures are not required on the G-325a for either person. See below. Passport type photos ARE required.

I would advise people to include a copy of this memo and write on the G-325a "Will sign at visa interview" if they are going to submit with a signature. It is possible an adjudicator will make a mistake and send an RFE for a signature otherwise. Once they send an RFE there is no point in arguing further, just sign it.

Hopefully you will get a knowledgable adjudicator and all will be OK. There is nothing you can do until then except prepare. Get a signed copy and have it ready just in case.

_________________________________________________

Interoffice Memorandum

To: SERVICE CENTER DIRECTORS

From: Michael Aytes /S/

Acting Associate Director for Operations

United States Citizenship and Immigration Services

Department of Homeland Security

Date: November 1, 2005

Re: Guidance for Processing Pending Form I-129F Petition for Alien Fiancé(e) when

G-325A for Petitioner and/or Beneficiary is not Signed and/or Photos not Submitted.

Purpose

To provide field offices with guidance on processing Form I-129F petitions when the accompanying G-325A is missing signatures and/or photographs.

A properly executed Form G-325A is required for all I-129F petitions. Previously it was standard practice to issue an RFE when the beneficiary failed to sign the G-325A and/or failed to submit photographs. From the date of this memorandum, an RFE should not be issued in instances where the beneficiary failed to sign the G-325A and/or failed to include photographs provided that the beneficiary is residing abroad. The beneficiary will be required to sign the Form G-325A and/or submit photographs at the time of visa issuance abroad. It is also not necessary to RFE for the petitioner’s signature on the G-325A, if the petitioner failed to sign it. The signature of the petitioner on the Form I-129F should be deemed sufficient for purposes of adjudicating the petition. Finally, it is important to note that the petitioner’s photograph is still required for the adjudication of the I-129F, so if it is missing, it must be requested prior to adjudication.Questions regarding this memorandum may be directed through appropriate channels to Mica Pilz of Service Center Operations.

[Mykenmimo 1]

After 5 months I got an RFE for missing signature on the second page of the I 129F, just sent it back and now waiting..who knows you might get lucky and get an RFE sooner.. Good Luck

Mike

[MatthewNCarolina 73]

Matt, Hi I am sure others have answered you by now... but from one moron to another.... I DID THE SAME THING!!! We waited 5 1/2 months got an RFE... I didnt sign the G325 form so they sent it to me and I signed it and off to the post office 5 mins after I got the snailmail, so relax and wait and sign the dang form! LOL Good luck on your journey! Oh by the way it only put us 1 week out of the loop, so its not so bad! Could be much worse...

Thanks for the moron to moron advice That made my day! I laughed pretty hard at that. I feel fine now. THANK YOU haha, thanks for sharing your experience too! Take care!

[MatthewNCarolina 73]

Signatures are not required on the G-325a for either person. See below. Passport type photos ARE required.

I would advise people to include a copy of this memo and write on the G-325a "Will sign at visa interview" if they are going to submit with a signature. It is possible an adjudicator will make a mistake and send an RFE for a signature otherwise. Once they send an RFE there is no point in arguing further, just sign it.

Hopefully you will get a knowledgable adjudicator and all will be OK. There is nothing you can do until then except prepare. Get a signed copy and have it ready just in case.

_________________________________________________

Interoffice Memorandum

To: SERVICE CENTER DIRECTORS

From: Michael Aytes /S/

Acting Associate Director for Operations

United States Citizenship and Immigration Services

Department of Homeland Security

Date: November 1, 2005

Re: Guidance for Processing Pending Form I-129F Petition for Alien Fiancé(e) when

G-325A for Petitioner and/or Beneficiary is not Signed and/or Photos not Submitted.

Purpose

To provide field offices with guidance on processing Form I-129F petitions when the accompanying G-325A is missing signatures and/or photographs.

A properly executed Form G-325A is required for all I-129F petitions. Previously it was standard practice to issue an RFE when the beneficiary failed to sign the G-325A and/or failed to submit photographs. From the date of this memorandum, an RFE should not be issued in instances where the beneficiary failed to sign the G-325A and/or failed to include photographs provided that the beneficiary is residing abroad. The beneficiary will be required to sign the Form G-325A and/or submit photographs at the time of visa issuance abroad. It is also not necessary to RFE for the petitioner’s signature on the G-325A, if the petitioner failed to sign it. The signature of the petitioner on the Form I-129F should be deemed sufficient for purposes of adjudicating the petition. Finally, it is important to note that the petitioner’s photograph is still required for the adjudication of the I-129F, so if it is missing, it must be requested prior to adjudication.Questions regarding this memorandum may be directed through appropriate channels to Mica Pilz of Service Center Operations.

Thank YOU very much for your reply. I feel alright now. Thankyou