Dual Citizenship

[NickD 202]

That's not true because you have too much sense of right and wrong so you are a natural born 'Nice'

If I had escaped from some fly blown garbage tip of a dictator's or anarchistic country, I would gladly throw my old passport away and start saying that the US is finest country in the history of the world and that I am deeply in love with it and the constitution was inspired by god etc etc like they do.

As it is, I need my red passport in case I get sick and the insurance people kick me into the gutter to die in this land of milk and honey.

At that point I jump on a yookay plane from Seattle, tell em hooray I am back to stay - and they spend a bundle on me for free - all of which they owe me for all my male ancestors soldiering and dying and the hundreds of thousands of tax I paid there.

So between the two passports, I have a health care safety net and eight inches rain per annum - so I am doing all right.

At that stage some people say 'I'm all right Jack so pull up the ladder'

I am not like that so I will push for a fear-free and forever present health care system here. Health care IS a right as much as public protection from being murdered - and should be like a baby's mother - always there for us unconditionally. The rest of politics is up for grabs.

Wife also has some advantages, an inheritance in Colombia, like a house, but has to be a citizen of that country to get it. She worked in Venezuela for some 26 odd years and will be eligible for their SS equivalent in a couple of years as they retire at 55 down there. Not sure how that would work as that money cannot leave the country under Chavez. But maybe he will go away.

She is a different person in her home countries in a constant state of fear, not safe to even go for walk at night without getting robbed. She was already kidnapped in a life threatening situation, and they have bars on all the doors and windows, like living in a prison. I am not afraid, we were already approached but the character had different thoughts when I showed him my mean face. But the threat is constant. She has a large home here with a huge yard, attached garage with an automatic opener, can travel anywhere without being concerned about bandits. And a lot more to do around here.

[Captain Oates 911]

Wife also has some advantages, an inheritance in Colombia, like a house, but has to be a citizen of that country to get it. She worked in Venezuela for some 26 odd years and will be eligible for their SS equivalent in a couple of years as they retire at 55 down there. Not sure how that would work as that money cannot leave the country under Chavez. But maybe he will go away.

She is a different person in her home countries in a constant state of fear, not safe to even go for walk at night without getting robbed. She was already kidnapped in a life threatening situation, and they have bars on all the doors and windows, like living in a prison. I am not afraid, we were already approached but the character had different thoughts when I showed him my mean face. But the threat is constant. She has a large home here with a huge yard, attached garage with an automatic opener, can travel anywhere without being concerned about bandits. And a lot more to do around here.

I am getting more used to the US - I go back to England 3 or 4 times a year. At first it was for homesickness but now it's just a habit and to see my daughter/grandkids.

It takes about 3 days I and I am sick of the rain and the congestion and the litter and the drunks and no parking spaces and petrol prices - by the end of 7 days I am really ready to be back in my blue sky desert in Washington

When I see what the NHS did for both my parents and the enormous care over 20 years and all the operations - even at the age of 92 - and the lovely care home for 10 years - that is wonderful and so hard to turn my back on. That really is so relaxing to know all that is there for everyone and always there with no registration or insurance companies or deductibles or lifetime limits and condition limits and co-pays and pre-existing and refusals. None of that - none. Nothing nada. Never mind the queen and all the hoo-har, I am proud of the NHS. When the USA gets that they will have all the world swimming the rio grande. Hum, praps that's why they don't.

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Edited December 14, 2010 by Alan the Red

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So I have a question, as I am also thinking of being dual nationality. I am an Australian citizen but born from another country. I do not have a dual citz with my brith country as they do not allow it with Australia.

I do not want to lose my Australian citz, but would like to also become a US citz. would this be possible?

JustBob what is a BBG application?

[CVB 18]

So I have a question, as I am also thinking of being dual nationality. I am an Australian citizen but born from another country. I do not have a dual citz with my brith country as they do not allow it with Australia.

I do not want to lose my Australian citz, but would like to also become a US citz. would this be possible?

JustBob what is a BBG application?

German Beibehaltungsgenehmigung. This is a process to keep German citizenship while acquiring the American citizenship. Without applying for it, Germans lose their citizenship and it has to be done before becoming American citizen.

[CVB 18]

So I have a question, as I am also thinking of being dual nationality. I am an Australian citizen but born from another country. I do not have a dual citz with my brith country as they do not allow it with Australia.

I do not want to lose my Australian citz, but would like to also become a US citz. would this be possible?

JustBob what is a BBG application?

Australia allows its citizens to hold dual nationality. An Australian citizen may automatically gain citizenship of another country through marriage, while a permanent resident of Australia may become a dual citizen by becoming an Australian citizen. Prior to 4 April 2002, Australian citizens who became citizens of another country lost their Australian citizenship automatically. That's what possibly happened in your case. This was the same in Belgium prior to 2007.

[Utah_Bound 0]

Must say though it's funny that the ancestors of immigrants here in the USA view us immigrants differently. They are keen to tell us how they are of Irish,or English or Dutch or German descent, quite proud of it too usually but then shoot us down because we were not actually born here. I guess I am lucky in the sense we live in a small rural community where people love my accent, even at work they joke I got hired for my accent. I get praise from the US Army for my previous service in Her Majesty's Royal Marines and more so for my service in the US Army Reserves where I have served for the last 4 1/2 years (I only moved here 5 years ago), I guess that means I already took an oath to protect and defend the United States, never thought of it that way while I sit here waiting for my appointment letter for my interview and test. (Yes I could have bypassed it all with military service but I do NOT believe military service should be a fast and easy way to become a US Citizen and prefer to do it on my own merit). In fact we often joke at our "Weekend Camps" that despite winning their independance in 1776, the bulk of our unit is still taking orders for now from an Englishman.

I guess what i am trying to say is that I am and will forever be English and proud, I will also soon be American and proud, despite what some may say (and i believe they are only jealous anyway), there IS room to be patriotic to two countries, I will vote for a US President in November and I will still listen to the Queens speech in December, I will light fireworks on the 4th of July and think of the bonfires and fireworks on November 5th, I will stand for the American National Anthem with my hand on my heart and nothing but respect and understanding why I do it as well as fly my England Flag on St George's Day, afetr all the service I have given for BOTH countries and service I continue to give to this great nation, I think I have deserved that much at least.

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Australia allows its citizens to hold dual nationality. An Australian citizen may automatically gain citizenship of another country through marriage, while a permanent resident of Australia may become a dual citizen by becoming an Australian citizen. Prior to 4 April 2002, Australian citizens who became citizens of another country lost their Australian citizenship automatically. That's what possibly happened in your case. This was the same in Belgium prior to 2007.

I have not lost my Australian Citizenship as I did not get married to a US nationality until 2004. So I guess it is still possible for me to apply for US citizen and keep my Australian Citizenship. It is so complicated for me to understand of what process I need to take.

I will figure it out.

Thank You JustBob

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

I have not lost my Australian Citizenship as I did not get married to a US nationality until 2004. So I guess it is still possible for me to apply for US citizen and keep my Australian Citizenship. It is so complicated for me to understand of what process I need to take.

I will figure it out.

Thank You JustBob

Filing for naturalization and US citizenship is a piece of cake compared to the processes that come before that, namely, K1/CR-1/IR-1, then AOS, and R.o.C. In fact, it gets easier every time.

After you have been a Green Card holder for 3 years (if still married to your petitioning spouse) or 5 years (if separated or divorced), you file the N-400 application which now costs $680.00. You can google for it and download the application directly from the USCIS Web site. It asks a lot of questions, some of which are arbitrarily phrased, but it takes only a few minutes to complete. You have to meet the physical presence requirements, need to have filed a tax return every year since becoming a resident, not have gotten in trouble with the law, be of good moral character, and that's pretty much it.

Once they accept your application you get an appointment for biometrics (again), then follows an interview and the English and civic test which has 100 questions of which you will get 10. You need to answer only 6 correctly to pass and it's really simple. Finally there will be an oath ceremony where you surrender your Green Card and get a Certificate of Naturalization. That's it!

The whole shabang takes about 3 to 5 months, on average 4.

Edited December 27, 2010 by Just Bob