Revoking US Citizenship

[CVB 18]

So the child of a Moroccan born anywhere in the world is automatically a Moroccan citizen without having to apply for Moroccan citizenship ?

How does Morocco know who it's citizens are giving birth to in other countries ?

does not compute

I don't know, I think very often the parents want to continue the tradition and ask for it. But this article makes you think twice before going there.

[CVB 18]

See... this is a guaranteed way when you want your citizenship to be taken away... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40389899/ns/us_news-security/

[Okalian 41]

So the child of a Moroccan born anywhere in the world is automatically a Moroccan citizen without having to apply for Moroccan citizenship ?

How does Morocco know who it's citizens are giving birth to in other countries ?

does not compute

The law is similar in Egypt, too. But unless the country of birth grants citizenships based on birth, Egyptians (and similarly Moroccans) notify their embassy to produce an Egyptian passport for their newborn. I wasnt born in Egypt and my country of birth doesn't grant citizenships so easily. But if my parents never applied for a passport for me, I doubt that Egypt will know i even exist. In a country like Egypt, a foreign woman can easily become a citizen after marriage to an Egyptian for 3 years and speaking Arabic. But it's impossible for a foreign man to ever become Egyptian. I know of an indian family who settled in Egypt, and they have 2nd generation kids who know nothing about India yet don't have an Egyptian passport.

It's similar to someone born with American parents overseas. I know someone who has american parent yet doesn't have ( or i think doesnt even care for) having a US passport. She's born in france and her parents settled there. And she can simply file N600 for her rights for US citizenship to be recognized.

Finally, i have some colleagues who are from Latin america but with Italian passports due to their italian ancestry. They're dual citizens yet their parents chose for their kids to have EU passports to have better benefits.

It's funny how alot of Americans (especially USCIS) assume you're a citizen of the country of birth. But I guess they can somewhat justified due to the fact that you can easily change your country of citizenship, but you can never change your place of birth. So they recognize your birth place as your identity instead of some government issued document stating you're that country's citizen.

I'm a huge fan of diversity

Edited November 27, 2010 by Okalian

[Brother Hesekiel 2,235]

My point exactly. "Some" people here on VJ constantly point out what a PITA it is that their US passport reflects their place of birth. Tell you what, and it's true: my grandpa was Danish, my dad Swedish, my mom German, and I could have been born in Vietnam. That still doesn't mean that this 6'6" tall man with blond hair and blue eyes (also true) would be mistaken for a Vietnamese citizen, just because his US passport (soon!) would read "Saigon" as his place of birth?

[CVB 18]

My point exactly. "Some" people here on VJ constantly point out what a PITA it is that their US passport reflects their place of birth. Tell you what, and it's true: my grandpa was Danish, my dad Swedish, my mom German, and I could have been born in Vietnam. That still doesn't mean that this 6'6" tall man with blond hair and blue eyes (also true) would be mistaken for a Vietnamese citizen, just because his US passport (soon!) would read "Saigon" as his place of birth?

As a matter of fact, it only mentions the country. Mine says Belgium, nothing else.

[Captain Oates 910]

I don't know, I think very often the parents want to continue the tradition and ask for it. But this article makes you think twice before going there.

I nearly died (literally) when the Saudis would not grant me an exit visa - I was living on green bananas and water (only) for 6 weeks and being seriously threatened on a daily basis- and I was told to lay on the floor and kiss their feet if I wanted an exit visa

I never go anywhere that requires an exit visa

I never go anywhere in that region of the world.

When I go east, my boundary is Munich.

US/UK/Europe/OZ/NZ/Canada - that's my world now.

Edited November 29, 2010 by Alan the Red

[NickD 202]

I nearly died (literally) when the Saudis would not grant me an exit visa - I was living on green bananas and water (only) for 6 weeks and being seriously threatened on a daily basis- and I was told to lay on the floor and kiss their feet if I wanted an exit visa

I never go anywhere that requires an exit visa

I never go anywhere in that region of the world.

When I go east, my boundary is Munich.

US/UK/Europe/OZ/NZ/Canada - that's my world now.

Caracas only hits you for $167.00 for an exit tax at the airport and you really don't have to kiss anyone's feet, just empty your wallet. Oh, and don't drink the water.

[Captain Oates 910]

Caracas only hits you for $167.00 for an exit tax at the airport and you really don't have to kiss anyone's feet, just empty your wallet. Oh, and don't drink the water.

I stopped off in Turkey for a few hours and they charged me a one year visa fee !

Actually I cut across the southern tip of Switzerland on my motorbike when I was going from Heidelburg to NICE and they charged me one year's road tax

So they can get stuffed too

Johnny foreigner - wouldn't put anything past him

[NickD 202]

I stopped off in Turkey for a few hours and they charged me a one year visa fee !

Actually I cut across the southern tip of Switzerland on my motorbike when I was going from Heidelburg to NICE and they charged me one year's road tax

So they can get stuffed too

Johnny foreigner - wouldn't put anything past him

Ha, if they charged to enter, nobody would go there. Caracas did accept Bolivars at the current exchange rate at 4.3 VEF equals a buck. We were able to sell our bucks for 21.5 VEF so got by with $33.40 to leave that place. Good thing my wife knew about it, most tourists don't, like the people ahead of us in line, they were somewhat annoyed, not very well advertised.

[Captain Oates 910]

Ha, if they charged to enter, nobody would go there. Caracas did accept Bolivars at the current exchange rate at 4.3 VEF equals a buck. We were able to sell our bucks for 21.5 VEF so got by with $33.40 to leave that place. Good thing my wife knew about it, most tourists don't, like the people ahead of us in line, they were somewhat annoyed, not very well advertised.

Actually, when people come on VJ and fall on the floor weeping and praying to god and giving thanks that they have become US Citizens, I can understand it, given some of the places they have come from.

Us folks from both the 1st world and civilized countries cannot see what all the fuss is about - but if I came from some of those places I would be down there grovelling in gratitude with the grovelliest...

I am suitably grateful for bigger parking spaces and less rain, but I was actually allowed to vote in the old country and my siblings were not raped twice a week by bands of illiterate police - so although I will be celebrating and vigorously waving my US flag on Thursday, my eyes won't roll over backwards and my tongue pop out and my legs give way with uncontrolled ecstasy like some.

I will use my first aid skills if it happens to any of my fellow swearers and assure them that it isn't a dream.

[SunDrop 59]

When interviewing for my K-1 in London, the first CO asked for my French birth certificate. All I had was my British Consular Record of Birth. It's all I've ever had, to the best of my knowledge. I nearly died on the spot and he disappeared to ask if that was sufficient. It apparently was.

The French have a 'Carnet de Familie' or a 'Family Folder' and every birth, death and marriage is recorded in there, or something along those lines. Both my parents are British and have only ever been so. My Dad was working for an American paper, contracted out of England and I had no right to French citizenship, until I had lived there for 5 or 6 years.

And it's not just the Americans who think that you are whatever you were born in, nationality-wise. Got sick to the teeth of hearing 'So you're French?' in England, when people asked where I'm from. Ridiculous question really, what does it matter? I learnt to just say, 'Mam's from Newcastle, Dad's from Lincolnshire and I've lived in London for the past xyz years.'

And Bob, OMG I'd raise funds to see someone change their name to one of those! lol