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A lady I know came to the US about two years ago. Husband and wife loved each other to death. Husband income didn't meet the poverty guideline so he asked his mom to co-sponsor his wife. No problem there. Paperworks signed, wife arrived in US, and GC arrived as expected.

Now two years later, the mother in law doesn't like the wife. Husband begs his mom but mother in law refuses and threatens to revoke her co-sponsorship. We don't know the details on why, what, how, etccetc.. What we do know is the mother in law wants to pull the plug to get things her way.

I'm sure the mother in law can do this if she wanted to, but how would USCIS handle this? Will they revoke her two year GC? It's my understanding that once a co-sponsor agrees to sign, she is locked in for 10 years, or whatever the length of the GC is. I'm sure this kinds of circumstances happen all the time, anyone with experience?

**** filed K3/CR1 concurrently. My wife and I both work/live overseas. The following timeline continues from the approval of the K3 VISA.


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NVC rec'd 130/ assigned case# 5-15-08
Called to request online payment ID# 5-18-08
Rec'd ds 3032/AOS bill by USPS 5-19-08
Rec'd email Online ID# for payment of AOS and DS3032 5-21-08
Returned ds 3032 by USPS during wife visit to U.S. on K3--5-29-09
Paid AOS online: 7-05-09 ( While in Cambodia )
Rec'd email to pay IV bill 7-7-09
Paid IV bill online 7-08-09
Mailed I-864 2-16-10
I- 864 delivered 2-18-10
Mailed DS 230 2-22-10
Ds 230 delivered 2-24-10
AVR says "NVC is awaiting biographic info from petitioner" 2-24-10
AVR says, "NVC has received the info checklist requested." NVC HAS ENTERED DS-230 INTO COMPUTER 3-01-10
SIF: 3-08-10
AVR Case Complete: 3-09-10
Rec'd interview email/date: 3-15-10
Medical: 4-09-10
INTERVIEW( less than 5 minutes ): 4-26-10 APPROVED
Pickup Visa: 4-30-10
POE: LAX 5/31/10
Overnight REENTRY Permit app: 6/01/10
Rec'd SS: 6-10-10
Rec'd Welcome to USA Letter + Green Card Tracking #: 6-14-10
Rec'd NOA1 letter + receipt # for reentry permit: 6-14-10
Rec'd 10 Yr. GC: 6-21-10
Rec'd Bio appt for reentry permit 7-18-10 but changed to 6-28-10 thru INFOpass: 6-25-10
REentry touches: 9-6-10, 9-29-10, 10-4-10
Rec'd email Reentry mailed 10-07-10
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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Gambia
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Nothing will happen. Once a green card is issued, that's it. It's like a trip on a train ticket. Once you have rode on the ticket, the "experience" can't be taken back and neither can that affidavit. The only way it can be voided is if the wife dies, permanently goes back to her country and gives back the green card or she works 40 credit hours (basically 10 years) in the U.S. Also, in SOME cases, if the wife is convicted of marriage fraud or any other immigration violation and is deported, the affidavit is voided. (in that case, it's not TECHNICALLY voided until the wife is convicted, no remedies, judge gives deportation order AND she physically leaves U.S. soil through that deportation order. In effect, the government will wait until the last possible second to let anyone off the hook for that affidavit of support. Good luck, you don't have much to worry about unless the wife starts selling drugs and get's caught or some as heinous as that.

12/25/2004 - Met my future hubby while on trip to Gambia

12/13/2006 - Married my hubby in Gambia (West Africa)

12/08/2007 - Sent I-130 to Chicago Lock box. USPS Express Mail December 08,'07, 7:44 pm

02/05/2008 - I-130 NOA1 Hardcopy Received in mailbox

05/27/2008 - Filed Expedite Request by phone with CSR

06/01/2008 - Received Denial Email

06/05/2008 - Filed 2nd request

06/23/2008 - Expedite Approved

07/27/2008 - NOA2

10/21/2008 - Case complete at NVC (Technically was expedited to embassy)

11/06/2008 - Interview at Dakar Embassy

11/06/2008 - Notice (show more income evidence from petitioner)

11/07/2008 - Case on hold

11/18/2008 - 2nd Interview Date

11/18/2008 - Notice (Show even more income and ORIGINAL docs now from 1st cosponsor

12/23/2008 - Received email for 3rd Interview scheduled for March 25th, 2009. Bring Pics

01/23/2009- In Gambia with hubby

03/25/2009- Interview

04/09/2009- POE Atlanta (CR-1 Status until 2011)

04/13/2009- husband arrested for domestic violence (Aggravated Assault-Felony)

05/19/2009- Filed for divorce

06/02/2009- Letter sent to immigration detailing abuse & fraud

09/08/2009- Divorce Hearing

09/10/2009- Divorce Trial (Continued)

03/11/2010- Notice To Appear issued

03/22/2010- Divorced

05/18/2010- Deportation Master Hearing

05/18/2010- Deportation Ordered

06/17/2010- Appeal Time Over. ICE picked him up. In Jail

08/10/2010- Another Master Hearing Scheduled. Out of jail.

05/31/2012- Individual Hearing Scheduled

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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Leedah is correct, there is nothing the MIL can do. Once she signed the documents and the visa/ AOS is approved, she cannot withdraw it.

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Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Argentina
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A lady I know came to the US about two years ago. Husband and wife loved each other to death. Husband income didn't meet the poverty guideline so he asked his mom to co-sponsor his wife. No problem there. Paperworks signed, wife arrived in US, and GC arrived as expected.

Now two years later, the mother in law doesn't like the wife. Husband begs his mom but mother in law refuses and threatens to revoke her co-sponsorship. We don't know the details on why, what, how, etccetc.. What we do know is the mother in law wants to pull the plug to get things her way.

I'm sure the mother in law can do this if she wanted to, but how would USCIS handle this? Will they revoke her two year GC? It's my understanding that once a co-sponsor agrees to sign, she is locked in for 10 years, or whatever the length of the GC is. I'm sure this kinds of circumstances happen all the time, anyone with experience?

ditto,

she can't just because she doen't get along with her daughter in law, she signed so she's hooked, even if her husband divorced her, not that he will.

in the instructions are the responsabilities, she can't revoke it just because. her resposibility will end once his wife becomes a USC. that's probably the soonest or the earliest she can get out of the affidavit of support.

nothing will happen.

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{sigh} MILs :blink:

i wouldnt let her know the ways she can get out of it (otherwise she will set out on a quest to attempt to prove marriage fraud against the DIL). instead, give her the option to help DIL become a citizen - then MIL is off the hook for the AffidavitOS and DIL gets her citizenship.

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if you gave your info (receipt #s, full name, etc) to anyone on VJ under the guise that they would "help" you through the immigration journey with his inside contacts (like his sister at USCIS) ... please contact OLUInquiries@dhs.gov, and go to http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact to report anything suspicious. Contact your congressman and senator's offices as well.

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Leedah is correct, there is nothing the MIL can do. Once she signed the documents and the visa/ AOS is approved, she cannot withdraw it.

Great. I had thought the same and wanted a second or third opinion.

Leedah, I just looked at your timeline, my God I hope the end of your struggle ends soon.

**** filed K3/CR1 concurrently. My wife and I both work/live overseas. The following timeline continues from the approval of the K3 VISA.


Our journey
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=115855

NVC rec'd 130/ assigned case# 5-15-08
Called to request online payment ID# 5-18-08
Rec'd ds 3032/AOS bill by USPS 5-19-08
Rec'd email Online ID# for payment of AOS and DS3032 5-21-08
Returned ds 3032 by USPS during wife visit to U.S. on K3--5-29-09
Paid AOS online: 7-05-09 ( While in Cambodia )
Rec'd email to pay IV bill 7-7-09
Paid IV bill online 7-08-09
Mailed I-864 2-16-10
I- 864 delivered 2-18-10
Mailed DS 230 2-22-10
Ds 230 delivered 2-24-10
AVR says "NVC is awaiting biographic info from petitioner" 2-24-10
AVR says, "NVC has received the info checklist requested." NVC HAS ENTERED DS-230 INTO COMPUTER 3-01-10
SIF: 3-08-10
AVR Case Complete: 3-09-10
Rec'd interview email/date: 3-15-10
Medical: 4-09-10
INTERVIEW( less than 5 minutes ): 4-26-10 APPROVED
Pickup Visa: 4-30-10
POE: LAX 5/31/10
Overnight REENTRY Permit app: 6/01/10
Rec'd SS: 6-10-10
Rec'd Welcome to USA Letter + Green Card Tracking #: 6-14-10
Rec'd NOA1 letter + receipt # for reentry permit: 6-14-10
Rec'd 10 Yr. GC: 6-21-10
Rec'd Bio appt for reentry permit 7-18-10 but changed to 6-28-10 thru INFOpass: 6-25-10
REentry touches: 9-6-10, 9-29-10, 10-4-10
Rec'd email Reentry mailed 10-07-10
Rec'd reentry permit 10-09-10 ( 4 mths 1 wk )

Naturalized 04/2016

Received US Passport 05/2016

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{sigh} MILs :blink:

i wouldnt let her know the ways she can get out of it (otherwise she will set out on a quest to attempt to prove marriage fraud against the DIL). instead, give her the option to help DIL become a citizen - then MIL is off the hook for the AffidavitOS and DIL gets her citizenship.

HA-HA.

I tell my freinds that once you marry a person, the in laws in some way think you have stolen something that belongs to them. I don't think the marriage fraud is an issue here. No mother in law can prove a marriage fraud if the husband doesn't corroborate. In some strange way it seems the husband loves his wife more than his mother. ;)

**** filed K3/CR1 concurrently. My wife and I both work/live overseas. The following timeline continues from the approval of the K3 VISA.


Our journey
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=115855

NVC rec'd 130/ assigned case# 5-15-08
Called to request online payment ID# 5-18-08
Rec'd ds 3032/AOS bill by USPS 5-19-08
Rec'd email Online ID# for payment of AOS and DS3032 5-21-08
Returned ds 3032 by USPS during wife visit to U.S. on K3--5-29-09
Paid AOS online: 7-05-09 ( While in Cambodia )
Rec'd email to pay IV bill 7-7-09
Paid IV bill online 7-08-09
Mailed I-864 2-16-10
I- 864 delivered 2-18-10
Mailed DS 230 2-22-10
Ds 230 delivered 2-24-10
AVR says "NVC is awaiting biographic info from petitioner" 2-24-10
AVR says, "NVC has received the info checklist requested." NVC HAS ENTERED DS-230 INTO COMPUTER 3-01-10
SIF: 3-08-10
AVR Case Complete: 3-09-10
Rec'd interview email/date: 3-15-10
Medical: 4-09-10
INTERVIEW( less than 5 minutes ): 4-26-10 APPROVED
Pickup Visa: 4-30-10
POE: LAX 5/31/10
Overnight REENTRY Permit app: 6/01/10
Rec'd SS: 6-10-10
Rec'd Welcome to USA Letter + Green Card Tracking #: 6-14-10
Rec'd NOA1 letter + receipt # for reentry permit: 6-14-10
Rec'd 10 Yr. GC: 6-21-10
Rec'd Bio appt for reentry permit 7-18-10 but changed to 6-28-10 thru INFOpass: 6-25-10
REentry touches: 9-6-10, 9-29-10, 10-4-10
Rec'd email Reentry mailed 10-07-10
Rec'd reentry permit 10-09-10 ( 4 mths 1 wk )

Naturalized 04/2016

Received US Passport 05/2016

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Filed: IR-5 Country: India
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It's my understanding that once a co-sponsor agrees to sign, she is locked in for 10 years, or whatever the length of the GC is. I'm sure this kinds of circumstances happen all the time, anyone with experience?

MIL's contractual obligation will be over when:

1) You work and earn 40 credits (normally 10 years)

2) You become USC

3) You die

4) You abandon your GC

Your divorce will not end up MIL's contractual obligation.

Loto

CSC - I-130 for Parents (IR5)

10/11/2011 - Sent to Chicago Lockbox

10/13/2011 - Delivered at Chicago Lockbox

10/17/2011 - Email received with Receipt#, Routed to CSC

10/18/2011 - Cleared the checks $420*2

10/21/2011 - Received NOA1

03/30/2012 - Received NOA2

NVC

04/19/2012 - NVC received

05/01/2012 - Case# generated

05/02/2012 - DS-3032 COA emailed

05/02/2012 - I-864 AOS Fee $88 paid

05/05/2012 - I-864 AOS package mailed to NVC

05/07/2012 - I-864 AOS package received by NVC

05/07/2012 - DS-3032 COA accepted

05/08/2012 - DS-230 IV Fee $230*2 paid

05/09/2012 - DS-230 IV package mailed to NVC

05/11/2012 - DS-230 IV package received by NVC

05/17/2012 - Case Completed

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07/02/2012 - VFS visit in Cochin

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HA-HA.

I tell my freinds that once you marry a person, the in laws in some way think you have stolen something that belongs to them. I don't think the marriage fraud is an issue here. No mother in law can prove a marriage fraud if the husband doesn't corroborate. In some strange way it seems the husband loves his wife more than his mother. ;)

you are so right and this was a good way to put it because this is the way some MILs behave, as if you've stolen their infant from their arms (in some cases where they dont know how to let go once their 'baby' is grown) or their future security (in others who look at their sons as only an income in future, their old age security). i've dealt with both, neither are a good thing BUT it is possible to eventually become friends with the former once they see truly that you can take care of their son as well as they did. the latter :blink: i think they always feel you are a threat.

as for the 2nd bolded statement, i can say that the behaviour of a mother, if acting in an inappropriate way toward a DIL, can have the opposite effect she wishes... rather than causing the son to dislike the DIL, it can cause the son to pull more closely to the DIL and see the mother for what she is. basically the MIL causes her own worst fears to come true.

She signed a legal binding contract she can't get out of. Nothing will happen...

she CAN get out of it... it's just very difficult and will require her to be extra nasty to the DIL to the point she gives up her GC and leaves. or she can falsify 'proof' of a fraud marriage. some MILs dont care how difficult a situation is if they believe tehre is even a shred of possibility that she can get what she wants.

MIL's contractual obligation will be over when:

1) You work and earn 40 credits (normally 10 years)

2) You become USC

3) You die

4) You abandon your GC

Your divorce will not end up MIL's contractual obligation.

Loto

a divorce may not end the obilgation but believe me, some women are just pure evil so NEVER NEVER NEVER take for granted a MIL will not do whatever it takes to force a DIL to leave (and abandon GC) :P

if you gave your info (receipt #s, full name, etc) to anyone on VJ under the guise that they would "help" you through the immigration journey with his inside contacts (like his sister at USCIS) ... please contact OLUInquiries@dhs.gov, and go to http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact to report anything suspicious. Contact your congressman and senator's offices as well.

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if she is only wanting to be released from the obligation i say push for the DIL to become a citizen... but since this is a MIL i would hazard a guess it is much more than that and she is wielding what she thinks is her power over DIL to make life miserable and attempt a split of their marriage. rather than pull rug from under her and make her more vengeful, give her nice solutions.

example: rather than say "ok you signed papers and you are stuck hahaha too bad" :P

say "mom listen we really appreciate you sponsoring, you made possible everything that has made me happy. now, if only we could get DIL's citizenship done in a hurry, THEN you would be off the hook"

as my granny always said "you catch more flies with honey than vinegar"

if you gave your info (receipt #s, full name, etc) to anyone on VJ under the guise that they would "help" you through the immigration journey with his inside contacts (like his sister at USCIS) ... please contact OLUInquiries@dhs.gov, and go to http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact to report anything suspicious. Contact your congressman and senator's offices as well.

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Thailand
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Backing up what others have said with the actual wording on the I-864 form that she signed:

Source: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864.pdf

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What If I Do Not Fulfill My Obligations?

If you do not provide sufficient support to the person who becomes a permanent resident based on the Form I-864 that you signed, that person may sue you for this support.

If you are sued, and the court enters a judgment against you, the person or agency that sued you may use any legally permitted procedures for enforcing or collecting the judgment. You may also be required to pay the costs of collection,including attorney fees.

If a Federal, State or local agency, or a private agency provides any covered means-tested public benefit to the person who becomes a permanent resident based on the Form I-864 that you signed, the agency may ask you to reimburse them for the amount of the benefits they provided. If you do not make the reimbursement, the agency may sue you for the amount that the agency believes you owe.

When Will These Obligations End?

Your obligations under a Form I-864 will end if the person who becomes a permanent resident based on a Form I-864 that you signed:

  • Becomes a U.S. citizen;
  • Has worked, or can be credited with, 40 quarters of coverage under the Social Security Act;
  • No longer has lawful permanent resident status, and has departed the United States;
  • Becomes subject to removal, but applies for and obtains in removal proceedings a new grant of adjustment of status,based on a new affidavit of support, if one is required; or
  • Dies.

Note that divorce does not terminate your obligations under this Form I-864.

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Backing up what others have said with the actual wording on the I-864 form that she signed:

Source: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864.pdf

-------Quote-----------

What If I Do Not Fulfill My Obligations?

If you do not provide sufficient support to the person who becomes a permanent resident based on the Form I-864 that you signed, that person may sue you for this support.

If you are sued, and the court enters a judgment against you, the person or agency that sued you may use any legally permitted procedures for enforcing or collecting the judgment. You may also be required to pay the costs of collection,including attorney fees.

If a Federal, State or local agency, or a private agency provides any covered means-tested public benefit to the person who becomes a permanent resident based on the Form I-864 that you signed, the agency may ask you to reimburse them for the amount of the benefits they provided. If you do not make the reimbursement, the agency may sue you for the amount that the agency believes you owe.

When Will These Obligations End?

Your obligations under a Form I-864 will end if the person who becomes a permanent resident based on a Form I-864 that you signed:

  • Becomes a U.S. citizen;
  • Has worked, or can be credited with, 40 quarters of coverage under the Social Security Act;
  • No longer has lawful permanent resident status, and has departed the United States;
  • Becomes subject to removal, but applies for and obtains in removal proceedings a new grant of adjustment of status,based on a new affidavit of support, if one is required; or
  • Dies.

Note that divorce does not terminate your obligations under this Form I-864.

those last 3, and especially that last one, would be scary for me!

for some reason i thought the "die" part was on the part of the signer but now i see it is the immigrant :blink: eat same foods as husband when MIL cooks, drink from husband's glass, dont be alone with her EVER. and become a USC as fast as humanly possible!

if you gave your info (receipt #s, full name, etc) to anyone on VJ under the guise that they would "help" you through the immigration journey with his inside contacts (like his sister at USCIS) ... please contact OLUInquiries@dhs.gov, and go to http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact to report anything suspicious. Contact your congressman and senator's offices as well.

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