Frontloading I-129F w/ Evidence of Ongoing Relationship

[GJen 9]

Well! I know that it's not specifically required to submit evidence of an ongoing relationship with the I-129F, but I understand that there have been times when the consulate doesn't accept additional evidence and so-just in case- I'm planning on adding it!

My question is...

Should I separate the "proof that we've met within the past 2 years" from "evidence of our ongoing relationship"? A lot of the proof that we've met within the past two years is also evidence of an ongoing relationship. I've got passport stamps, boarding passes, receipts, pictures, emails, notes, etc.

If you think I should, how would you suggest I separate it?

Or should I just put "Evidence of having met within the past two years & of our ongoing relationship" in the cover letter and put it all together?

Edited May 17, 2010 by GJen

[Darnell 8,478]

Should I separate the "proof that we've met within the past 2 years" from "evidence of our ongoing relationship"?

Yes, seperate it. IMO, pare back the 'meet' evidence, go nuts with the 'relationship evidence'.

Good Luck !

[Danilu 11]

Put in the cover letter:

- Proof of having met within the past two years

- Proof of ongoing relationship

That means they must be separated.

[TBoneTX 44,674]

- Proof of ongoing relationship

For good measure, call this "evidence of ongoing bona fide relationship." Sure wish that I had done that with Ecuador, si man!

[GJen 9]

Okay.. so how should I separate it?

-Passport pictures (met w/in 2 yrs?)

-Boarding passes (met w/in 2 yrs?)

-Receipts (met w/in 2 yrs?)--- on a side note, it is fine to just copy receipts, or should i get a bank stmt and highlight purchases made in venezuela?

-Pictures (ongoing relationship?)

-E-mails (ongoing relationship)

-Notes (ongoing relationship)

[K and L 27]

Exactly like that. Passport stamps, boarding passes, receipts from Venezuela show you were there. A photo or two of the two of you together there would also be appropriate. Things like more photos, emails, notes/letters/cards, money transfers, IM records (or just logs if you're super chatty), phone bills that show calls back and forth, cell phone text records, etc would be evidence of relationship.

For whatever it's worth, we either combined the two in our packet or omitted evidence of ongoing relationship in its entirety -- we submitted three pages of evidence (one for each of the two trips I had already taken, plus one planned trip). Each trip's page had a copy of the flight itinerary, one boarding pass from the trip (either Brazil->Miami or Miami->Brazil), a copy of the final hotel bill, one or two receipts, one or two photos, and a copy of the visa stamps. One of them also had some random admissions stubs, which I suppose could demonstrate we went on dates (or that I'm good at picking out ####### from the trash ). The planned trip (a month long trip) had the flight itinerary and a copy of our short term lease and a wire transfer (to pay the lease). We had no RFEs in the I-129F petition, and our interview in Rio was a joke - we spent more time talking about where I live, and what I do than he spent asking L about how we met and what he plans on doing once he's in the US.

[Darnell 8,478]

Okay.. so how should I separate it?

-Passport pictures (met w/in 2 yrs?)

You prolly mean 'copies of passport stamps/visas, with entry/exit stamps'

not 'passport pictures', right?

Edited May 17, 2010 by Darnell

[GJen 9]

For good measure, call this "evidence of ongoing bona fide relationship." Sure wish that I had done that with Ecuador, si man!

Did you get an RFE for not putting "bona fide"?

[GJen 9]

You prolly mean 'copies of passport stamps/visas, with entry/exit stamps'

not 'passport pictures', right?

Oops! That's exactly what I meant. Oh well, too late to edit it now! Thanks for checking though! That could have been the difference in getting an RFE!

[Rob and Jill 82]

Hun...from the tones of your posts, you're wigging out! I could be wrong, but you sound like you are in panic mode!

Take a deep breath. Calm down.

Read On:

I used a culmination of two things to file the K-1:

The Guide here on Visa Journey

The Official printed out instructions from the USCIS website.

Just read them and put your packet together in order from the instructions on their site. I made a table of contents for it, and used tips and tricks here for "packaging" like zip lock bags for photos etc, stapled them to the page and sent them on their merry way.

I didn't get an RFE as of yet, and everything is fine.

Also, just to clarify the Passport questions, you DO need BOTH passport style photos and YOU AND YOUR fiance as well as photos to show you have met in person.

[GJen 9]

Hun...from the tones of your posts, you're wigging out! I could be wrong, but you sound like you are in panic mode!

Take a deep breath. Calm down.

Read On:

I used a culmination of two things to file the K-1:

The Guide here on Visa Journey

The Official printed out instructions from the USCIS website.

Just read them and put your packet together in order from the instructions on their site. I made a table of contents for it, and used tips and tricks here for "packaging" like zip lock bags for photos etc, stapled them to the page and sent them on their merry way.

I didn't get an RFE as of yet, and everything is fine.

Also, just to clarify the Passport questions, you DO need BOTH passport style photos and YOU AND YOUR fiance as well as photos to show you have met in person.

You're not wrong!! It's safe to say that I'm in panic mode! I've also used the K1 Guide & USCIS Instructions... I'm kind of paranoid about messing up the G-325A because I have to handwrite them. The only other thing I'm unsure of is the G-325A supplement for the beneficiary. I want to hear that it's acceptable to write the address of employer in the blank below the name of the employer b/c that wouldn't require a supplement or for me to send it to Venezuela to get it signed by the beneficiary.

[TBoneTX 44,674]

Did you get an RFE for not putting "bona fide"?

No, man; got a Stokes interview from the ####### consulate. If you put "bona fide" on the evidence of relationship that goes to USCIS, it may weaken any claim by your embassy that the evidence ISN'T bona fide -- consulates are not supposed to ignore material that USCIS has seen.

[GJen 9]

No, man; got a Stokes interview from the ####### consulate. If you put "bona fide" on the evidence of relationship that goes to USCIS, it may weaken any claim by your embassy that the evidence ISN'T bona fide -- consulates are not supposed to ignore material that USCIS has seen.

interesting!!

[Rob and Jill 82]

You're not wrong!! It's safe to say that I'm in panic mode!

It will be ok. You can print out the forms again if you need to print them.

[GJen 9]

It will be ok. You can print out the forms again if you need to print them.

I only have so many blank forms signed by the beneficiary. It would take a long time to send them and get them back if I ever got them back.