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[slangofoil 50]

I'm so annoyed because even after going back and forth repeatedly over the documents my fiance needed to send me, I still manage to find errors after I get them from him in the mail. It's as much my fault for not noticing when I was focused on other mistakes, but grrrrrrrr so annoyed.

Anyway, I'm thinking this won't be a big deal, but on his G325a he answered the question about "Last occupation abroad if not shown above" and put in a two-month job he had here in America on a summer J-1. I took this answer off when he sent the first version to me but he stuck it back on and I never noticed. Obviously "abroad" means outside of America, but to him he automatically thought "outside of his own country".

Anyway, should I just leave it or maybe black it out with a sharpie?

Also he left off the last zero in the date field by the signature, so it just says "02/22/201". Should I just write in a zero? The rest was typed in.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

I'm so annoyed because even after going back and forth repeatedly over the documents my fiance needed to send me, I still manage to find errors after I get them from him in the mail. It's as much my fault for not noticing when I was focused on other mistakes, but grrrrrrrr so annoyed.

Anyway, I'm thinking this won't be a big deal, but on his G325a he answered the question about "Last occupation abroad if not shown above" and put in a two-month job he had here in America on a summer J-1. I took this answer off when he sent the first version to me but he stuck it back on and I never noticed. Obviously "abroad" means outside of America, but to him he automatically thought "outside of his own country".

Anyway, should I just leave it or maybe black it out with a sharpie?

Also he left off the last zero in the date field by the signature, so it just says "02/22/201". Should I just write in a zero? The rest was typed in.

Okay i'm assuming that your fiance is the foreign one and if so, he is correct and you are wrong. His form has his current address listed as Ireland, therefore any job "abroad" is anywhere other than in the country where he is. On my K1 I had nothing to list, now I am in America I must list my last job in Australia.

Re the date, yes. Neatly write the additional 0.

Re blacking out the details, even if it WAS wrong, you cannot alter it like that, looks like you're hiding something. He would need to send another IF it was wrong. It's not.

Edited February 27, 2010 by Vanessa&Tony

[slangofoil 50]

Okay i'm assuming that your fiance is the foreign one and if so, he is correct and you are wrong. His form has his current address listed as Ireland, therefore any job "abroad" is anywhere other than in the country where he is. On my K1 I had nothing to list, now I am in America I must list my last job in Australia.

Re the date, yes. Neatly write the additional 0.

Re blacking out the details, even if it WAS wrong, you cannot alter it like that, looks like you're hiding something. He would need to send another IF it was wrong. It's not.

Really? It seems to me that since it's a form addressed to a US government office IN the US then "abroad" would mean outside the US.

But I will leave it untouched anyway. Even if I was right it's probably not a big deal. I'm just so annoyed at having gone over and over these forms and still having niggling mistakes like the date missing the zero and having other confusion. Too much stress!

[pushbrk 12,824]

Okay i'm assuming that your fiance is the foreign one and if so, he is correct and you are wrong. His form has his current address listed as Ireland, therefore any job "abroad" is anywhere other than in the country where he is. On my K1 I had nothing to list, now I am in America I must list my last job in Australia.

Re the date, yes. Neatly write the additional 0.

Re blacking out the details, even if it WAS wrong, you cannot alter it like that, looks like you're hiding something. He would need to send another IF it was wrong. It's not.

For the purposes of the G325a and US immigration, "abroad" means outside the USA. Yes, you can black it out, since the last job abroad IS shown above. Sure, write in the zero in the date.

[slangofoil 50]

For the purposes of the G325a and US immigration, "abroad" means outside the USA. Yes, you can black it out, since the last job abroad IS shown above. Sure, write in the zero in the date.

Do you think it will look suspect if I black it out? It is really worth it to do so, or will the VSC workers be smart enough to figure out his confusion? He can't have been the first beneficiary ever to have made the mistake.

[Audy_Rob 26]

Sine it is a USCIS immigration form, actually Biography to accompany other forms, I always interpret abroad to mean outside the USA. I would not black out anything as I think that is more likely to cause an RFE. Let the USCIS adjudicator realize the error or non-error rather than do something that begs for an RFE.

Yes, neatly pen in the last 0.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

As the form states "Applicant's last address outside the United States of more than one year" then writing "Show below last occupation abroad if not shown above. (Include all information requested above.)" is because the beneficiaries country can vary.

If "abroad" TRULY meant in all cases, "outside the US", then, like the last address example, they would have written "outside the US" rather than "abroad".

I also mention that I completed my form in this manner and had no issues just as I'm sure others have as well doing it the "wrong" way. I don't believe there is any "right" way but for your husbands purposes he is in Ireland, abroad means anywhere outside Ireland. He won't have any issues writing it as such.

Edited February 27, 2010 by Vanessa&Tony

[pushbrk 12,824]

As the form states "Applicant's last address outside the United States of more than one year" then writing "Show below last occupation abroad if not shown above. (Include all information requested above.)" is because the beneficiaries country can vary.

If "abroad" TRULY meant in all cases, "outside the US", then, like the last address example, they would have written "outside the US" rather than "abroad".

I also mention that I completed my form in this manner and had no issues just as I'm sure others have as well doing it the "wrong" way. I don't believe there is any "right" way but for your husbands purposes he is in Ireland, abroad means anywhere outside Ireland. He won't have any issues writing it as such.

Your misunderstanding is such a common one that I'm sure USCIS adjudicators have all seen it frequently. When the information is there, they sort it out. My first G325a for my wife stated I had no current wife. I'm sure they've seen that one about as frequently.

I assure you, in this context, abroad means outside the USA. "Outside the USA of more than one year", is a separate question with emphasis on more than one year.

[besaangel 18]

ABROAD, normally means outside or foreign countries... If you are submitting something to a given government and they ask for an address abroad- does this not mean outside such country?

COMMON issue though, kind of like "Give home address" without the specifications... could be here or abroad LMAO...

[pushbrk 12,824]

ABROAD, normally means outside or foreign countries... If you are submitting something to a given government and they ask for an address abroad- does this not mean outside such country?

COMMON issue though, kind of like "Give home address" without the specifications... could be here or abroad LMAO...

The form doesn't make the issue clear. However, rest assured that in this context, "abroad" means outside the USA. You can also rest assured that misinterpretation is so common it's really not a problem either way.

[kruz_patz 22]

Ok folks,

I made a small mistake as well similar to this issue.

I am Indian citizen, and first time I came to USA was in 2004 on student visa and than later changed status to H1. Since 2009 april, At present I am in India and recently my citizen spouse has filed I-130 and G-325 A. I sent G-325 A, but in 'last occupation abroad if not listed above' - I put NONE. Since I think abroad means outside my country of citizenship (INDIA). As, I have already mentioned all occupation within USA in 'last 5 years occupation' ... so i thought I should not put anything in 'LAST OCCUPATION ABROAD'...

I had worked as 'technician' for 1 year in India before I came to USA. Atleast that's what I have mentioned in my NON-IMMIGRANT VISA APPLICATION for student visa at that time. MY confusion is this, that should I have mentioned my previous job in India UNDER 'LAST OCCUPATION ABROAD'... ? ? ?

[psiprez 3]

We understood "abroad" as meaning "abroad for the person filling out the form".

For me, that meant in any country outside of the US.

For my fiance, that meant in any country outside of the United Kingdom.

I guess we did ok, since we were approved.

Either way, I wouldn't omit ANY information (there will be records somewhere of his job abroad, and what if they notice its missing from your list?). I certainly wouldn't "black it out". The LAST thing I'd want to do is bring on any unnecessary suspicion. If I was going to make those kind of changes, I'd get him to sign a new form. But that's just me.

[baron555 934]

he automatically thought "outside of his own country

This is what abroad means, outside of your own country. From his perspective it would be work outside of his country; the US doesn't have exclusive rights to the word.

Relax, answering correctly is key. This will not be a deal breaker unless he put that he worked for the Taliban in Iraq or something like that....!!

[pushbrk 12,824]

he automatically thought "outside of his own country

This is what abroad means, outside of your own country. From his perspective it would be work outside of his country; the US doesn't have exclusive rights to the word.

Relax, answering correctly is key. This will not be a deal breaker unless he put that he worked for the Taliban in Iraq or something like that....!!

Again (this is an old thread) the G325a is produced and therefore answered from the perspective of the USA, so in THIS context, abroad means outside the USA. This misinterpretation is common however and it is only a biographical form that generally already shows the last occupation outside the USA for the foreigner anyway.