Anybody else heard the rumor...?

[SuperDuper! 230]

The rumor That says the Naturalization process will soon be streamlined?: That US Citizenship can be obtained 3 years from the date of marriage to the US citizen?

Don't ask me a bunch of questions about it...I just heard something thru the grapevine of someone supposedly "in the know." Maybe it is nothing more than rumor. If the VJ hotshots here have not heard about it yet, then it just cannot be true.

Edited February 19, 2010 by Hopp

[Scott and Mhay 57]

Didnt hear that yet. I knew that if someone marrys a service member they only have to wait 3 years instead of 5.

[pauleen 0]

3 yrs for k1(married and living under same roof for 3 yrs),

1 yr for CR1.its in the booklet that uscis sent.

[nigel 7]

Didnt hear that yet. I knew that if someone marrys a service member they only have to wait 3 years instead of 5.

There is No Differance if you marry a "service member" or a "USC" Alien from mars....as long as you been Married to the "same" USC for 3 yrs that's all what Matters.

And Nope.... I never heard such a thing and i Don't think i will neither....well not anytime soon..

I would say ..If anything they will change the 3 yr rule to 5 yr rule and maybe the 5yr rule to 7 yrs to become a USC..

Think about it...The Government will make more money by doing that way...

3 yr Rule...as it stands Today Feb 2010

Be Married to the same USC spouse for (3 yrs)

Been a P/R card holder for (3 yrs)

[lucyrich 20]

The rumor That says the Naturalization process will soon be streamlined?: That US Citizenship can be obtained 3 years from the date of marriage to the US citizen?

Don't ask me a bunch of questions about it...I just heard something thru the grapevine of someone supposedly "in the know." Maybe it is nothing more than rumor. If the VJ hotshots here have not heard about it yet, then it just cannot be true.

The thing is, those requirements are written into the INA (sections 316 and 319), not just some small regulation subject to the whim of anonymous regulators. It's literally an Act of Congress, and it will take another Act of Congress to change the requirements. The requirements for naturalization can't be changed by the USCIS. Both the Senate and House will have to muster the votes, and the Senate will have to avoid a fillibuster. Both houses have to reconcile and agree exactly on the terms of the change. And then the President must sign it (or veto it and have his veto overridden).

As far as I know, it's not even in a Bill that's been introduced yet, but after it's introduced, it's got to go through all of the following process before it actually would change the requirements:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ

I'm not saying it's impossible. Congress frequently does pass laws. I can't predict what laws Congress will pass next. But if it happens, we'll hear about it as the proposed change goes through debate in committees. And my guess is that immigration is such a hot topic that any significant change will be part of a broader immigration reform. If that happens, it'll probably get almost as much press coverage as health care reform got, and it will be about as complex a process as it goes from suggestion into law (health care reform still hasn't passed both houses).

[Zen Den 18]

The rumor That says the Naturalization process will soon be streamlined?: That US Citizenship can be obtained 3 years from the date of marriage to the US citizen?

Don't ask me a bunch of questions about it...I just heard something thru the grapevine of someone supposedly "in the know." Maybe it is nothing more than rumor. If the VJ hotshots here have not heard about it yet, then it just cannot be true.

it's in the "welcome to the US" giude page 92 . so far no changes (i hope no changes til I'm eligible to apply)

if you came as a K1/CR, and married for 3 yrs to the same person + fulfilled the residency/physical presence requirement, you can already apply

[lucyrich 20]

There is No Differance if you marry a "service member" or a "USC" Alien from mars....as long as you been Married to the "same" USC for 3 yrs that's all what Matters.

But there ARE special provisions for expedited citizenship of some spouses and children of service members. See INA 319(b). If married to a service member deployed abroad, there is no continuous residence or physical presence requirement. Not even three years. Not even three days.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...000082ca60aRCRD

[NickD 202]

One change we could all expect is yet another increase in form fee cost. Was really a drastic change in 2008 where congress approved a 100% increase or more depending on the form with a promised decrease in about 10% of the then current processing times by Emilio. But that price increase did result in a huge surge of N-400 applicants because the that fee was just about doubled.

The I-485 had the greatest increase to $1,100.00. Sorry, but just find it difficult to think optimistically when dealing with the USCIS.

[antda 13]

One change we could all expect is yet another increase in form fee cost. Was really a drastic change in 2008 where congress approved a 100% increase or more depending on the form with a promised decrease in about 10% of the then current processing times by Emilio. But that price increase did result in a huge surge of N-400 applicants because the that fee was just about doubled.

The I-485 had the greatest increase to $1,100.00. Sorry, but just find it difficult to think optimistically when dealing with the USCIS.

NickD-I agree.....The fees will keep on increasing...That is one USCIS guarantee!

And there is no "reasonable" justification for this increase either....

200%+ increase...does not correlate with the standard of living increase..

Oh yeah..and the USCIS continues to have poor service quality...

For example...for my 10yr green card...I only used 5 months for it...and waited 10 months for it....Rip-off...$575!

And is my citizenship certificate worth $675...Rip-off! It looks so "amateurish" and I can't even travel with that piece of paper....

However....$Priceless$...To get rid of the USCIS asap! (best to 'lock in' the rates now...then to pay more later...)

Lol..If they were any other business..They would be out-of-business by now!

I want my money back! (lol..unlikely that is going to happen though)....

And to the OP-The rules remain the same...3 yrs marriage + 3 yrs permanent resident + 3 yrs physical residency + (at least) 3yr USC spouse is a US Citizen....=US citizenship....anything less than that....unacceptable to the USCIS....

Ant

Edited February 19, 2010 by Ant+D+BabyA

[Darnell 8,478]

Hopp - eh - if it's coming in as a rumour - maybe the magic boys and girls over at ilw.com will write up something about it, soonish ?

If it 'got in' to the Immigration Reform Bill, then maybe thats where the rumours are coming from? (thats a swag, btw).

[NickD 202]

My first shock after months of what we went through was that conditional residency card. Did learn when caps on conventional immigration were put into effect in 1986, that 50K with a lottery, only way to come here was marriage. Fraud cases were claimed to be high, but two things were done, first, a much longer AOS processing time with far greater background checks, then the conditional card came in later. From USCIS statistics I could learn, only 140K I-751 applications were processed per year since then. Nothing even close to the 2 million applicants the INS claimed they received the first year after the lottery started. That, and a 250K buck fine and 5 years in prison for the sponsoring USC, plus the newly introduced I-864 where that citizen would be liable for up to ten years.

In our defense, with full knowledge of the penalties involved for fraud, we did apply for residence of our spouses or spoused to be. We did this because we knew we were in for a long term relationship with a person we would have never met anywhere else. But nevertheless, we were considered guilty of fraud, even after paying high fees for not only the AOS, but for the ROCs', and for USC for our beloved spouses, that is, until we proved ourselves innocent.

So why do USC applicants have to study the civics test when the USCIS doesn't even follow the laws of our US Constitution? So we are aware they are not following the laws?

[nigel 7]

But there ARE special provisions for expedited citizenship of some spouses and children of service members. See INA 319(b). If married to a service member deployed abroad, there is no continuous residence or physical presence requirement. Not even three years. Not even three days.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...000082ca60aRCRD

Yep they get given breaks on the continuous residence / physical presence requirement & also the Fee..

But they would still have to be married to a usc the same as anybody else.......Dam what more breaks they want to give service people?

Not saying them people don't deserve breaks, but come on....they might as well give them Married spouses a UCS from the start and be done with it...

If they give them anymore breaks...

[milimelo 4,413]

Yep they get given breaks on the continuous residence / physical presence requirement & also the Fee..

But they would still have to be married to a usc the same as anybody else.......Dam what more breaks they want to give service people?

Not saying them people don't deserve breaks, but come on....they might as well give them Married spouses a UCS from the start and be done with it...

If they give them anymore breaks...

As long as they have a green card (permanent residence) and their spouse is deploying. working for gov't overseas, there is no requirement to be married for 3 + years, no requirement for residency in the States or district office.

Why would you object to this when it's perfectly legal in the law? Check out section 319(b) of the INA.

[nigel 7]

As long as they have a green card (permanent residence) and their spouse is deploying. working for gov't overseas, there is no requirement to be married for 3 + years, no requirement for residency in the States or district office.

Why would you object to this when it's perfectly legal in the law? Check out section 319(b) of the INA.

Here we go..

I Don't Object to the permanent residency requirements, or the physical presence requirement, as that Rule is just pure commen sense for a servicemen of being outside the us for long periods of time....Ive no problem with that.

What Makes a Servicemen marriage requirement any different from anybody eles's....Is there marriage bullet proof or something?..Nope..

There Marriage is No Different from anybody else....Fact...

So why should we..people who's not in the service have to jump through hoops to prove there marriage after 3/5 yrs and somebody in the service can be married 12 mths maybe and show a marriage cert and that's it, there good to go....

So might aswell skip all the B/S Immigration Forms and just give servicmen spouse's a USC from the start huh?

Just for the Record...Nope im not anti servicemen....in fact iv'e got the upmost respect for them men/women on the frontline, at the same time i just like a little more fairness, that's all...

[Scott and Mhay 57]

Yep they get given breaks on the continuous residence / physical presence requirement & also the Fee..

But they would still have to be married to a usc the same as anybody else.......Dam what more breaks they want to give service people?

Not saying them people don't deserve breaks, but come on....they might as well give them Married spouses a UCS from the start and be done with it...

If they give them anymore breaks...

Where is that (Fee break)? We pay just the same as everyone else. If you have ever been deployed then you would understand why the we get the break. The only "break" I got was expedited processing at the USCIS...that's it. There is a reason why a spouse of a military member is ENTITLED to HALF the retirement of the military member if they have been married for at least 10 years and get a divorce. they are in the military too and go through sacrifices just like the military member does...they just dont put their life on the line. The no fee naturalization is for the military member....yep there are people that are LPR in the military. I dont feel that is too much to ask for the government to pay for someone's naturalization if they are volunteering for service.

Edited February 20, 2010 by Scott and Mhay