Admitting Past Drug Use

[adamsbr 0]

My wife visited the St. Luke clinic today in Manila to get her medical screening prior to her interview on 23 March. During the screening they asked is she had any past drug use, and she said yes but the last time she did drugs was 2003.

Are we in trouble now? What are the chances she receives a lifetime ban?

[VanessaTony 3,567]

My wife visited the St. Luke clinic today in Manila to get her medical screening prior to her interview on 23 March. During the screening they asked is she had any past drug use, and she said yes but the last time she did drugs was 2003.

Are we in trouble now? What are the chances she receives a lifetime ban?

prior posts on this subject may help you:

- http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=228121

- http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=238647

- http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=236812

There are several more. Hope those help.

[Dakine 26]

My wife visited the St. Luke clinic today in Manila to get her medical screening prior to her interview on 23 March. During the screening they asked is she had any past drug use, and she said yes but the last time she did drugs was 2003.

Are we in trouble now? What are the chances she receives a lifetime ban?

Sorry to hear that. Not a lot you can do. Did they refer her to a psychologist?

This may help.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleid=511018

Edited February 17, 2010 by Dakine

[Dakine 26]

Sorry to hear that. Not a lot you can do. Did they refer her to a psychologist?

This may help.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleid=511018

New hope for people who 'admitted' drug use to doctors at St. Luke's

IMMIGRATION CORNER By Michael J. Gurfinkel (The Philippine Star) Updated October 04, 2009 12:00 AM

In two recent decisions, the Administrative Appeals Office (AAO) held that when an alien was not given an adequate definition of a drug crime, including all essential elements, any admission or confession by that alien of the crime could not be used against him for immigration purposes. This is great news for people who were refused their visas due to admitting drug use during their medical exam at St. Luke’s, Manila. If they did not receive an adequate definition of the crime, or warning about the consequences of admitting drug use (which is a lifetime ban), there may still be hope!

By way of background, in 2002, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, in Pazcoguin vs. Radcliffe, held that an alien could be banned for life for admitting, to the doctors at St. Luke’s, that the alien had “used” drugs in the past. The ban applied even if the alien was never charged or convicted of any drug crime, and even if his drug test turned out to be “negative.” The lifetime ban results from the alien’s mere admission to the doctor or psychiatrist, of the use of marijuana or some other prohibited drugs in the past, even if the use occurred many years ago. Thus, people petitioned by US citizen spouses, other relatives, employers, etc., and had waited years for their petition to be current, found themselves banned for life, when the doctors asked if they ever tried marijuana or other drugs at any time in their life, and they said “yes.”

The AAO disagreed with the Ninth Circuit’s reasoning in Pazcoguin. First, the AAO held that because the alien’s residence was in the Philippines, and not the Ninth Circuit (which encompasses the western states), the Pazcoguin case was not controlling authority, and the AAO was not bound by the 9th Circuit’s ruling outside of the Ninth Circuit’s jurisdiction.

Second, the AAO stated that AAO “conducts the final administrative review and enters the ultimate decision for US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on all immigration matters that fall within its jurisdiction.” Therefore, it would be the AAO, not the Ninth Circuit, that would have the “final say” in cases arising outside the jurisdiction of the Ninth Circuit.

Third, in a decision by the Board of Immigration Appeals (BIA), Matter of K, the BIA held that the “validity” of an admission (or confession) for purposes of inadmissibility, required that the alien “be given an adequate definition of the crime, including all essential elements, and that it be explained in understandable terms.” The reason for this rule is to ensure that, “the alien would receive fair play and to preclude any possible later claim by him that he had been unwittingly entrapped into admitting the commission of a crime involving moral turpitude.” Also, it must be explained in plain English.

In these recent AAO cases (one involving a petition by a US citizen spouse, and the other a petition by a parent), the applicants admitted to drug use only during a medical/psychiatric examination at St. Luke’s, in connection with immigrant visa processing. There was no evidence showing that the applicants were provided with an adequate definition of any crime. Further, the applicants were never charged with, or convicted of, any illicit drug crime.

The AAO further noted that the St. Luke’s doctors and psychiatrists who obtained the admission or confession about drug use, “did not provide the petitioner with a definition of a crime to which he was admitting the essential elements.” Thus, no adequate warning was given to the applicants. Accordingly, under Matter of K, that admission or confession of drug use could not be used against the applicant.

Moreover, the AAO noted that doctors and psychiatrists at St. Luke’s perform “examinations for the benefit of the US government to determine if grounds exist that render aliens inadmissible to the US.” Therefore, there is no reason why the St. Luke’s psychiatrists or doctors should be exempt from providing adequate warnings or definitions of crimes, especially when the admission they obtained would later be used by the Embassy to ban the visa applicant for life for admitting drug use.

The AAO concluded that, “the evidence in the record is insufficient to support a finding that the applicant is inadmissible.” Therefore, the applicant’s waiver application “is unnecessary.”

If you or your relative were banned for life for admitting drug use, these AAO decisions are great news. I strongly suggest that you seek the advice of a reputable attorney, who can evaluate your situation, and hopefully help lift the lifetime ban (for admitting drug use) because the admission or confession of drug use was not properly obtained.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

Every President of the United States of modern times (since the Vietnam war) has smoked pot and admitted to this fact, as it was and to some extent still is part of growing up and experiencing life, but for an immigrant it's as big a sin as it gets. Never lie to Immigration officials, they say. Never say never.

[sjr09 155]

Every President of the United States of modern times (since the Vietnam war) has smoked pot and admitted to this fact, as it was and to some extent still is part of growing up and experiencing life, but for an immigrant it's as big a sin as it gets. Never lie to Immigration officials, they say. Never say never.

Clinton never inhaled!

[lierjo1202 0]

why will u admit it for the 1st place, just said no, u wait for it for a year, and after that you are banned? lol this is funny

[Dakine 26]

why will u admit it for the 1st place, just said no, u wait for it for a year, and after that you are banned? lol this is funny

Funny?

When a person is honest and trust the US system and gets hammered for being so sure tain't funny.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

It's not funny at all. It's a serious thing that you can't trust the US Government or any Government for that fact. Hell, you can't even trust a cop, an attorney, a D.A. or the old lady next door.

That wasn't always the case, but times have changed.

I used to say "Hi" when I met children standing around, just like my parents taught me. The last time I did that when walking up the stairs of an apartment building, about 10 years ago, the one girl said to his brother: "we're not allowed to talk to strangers."

In the 1950s people left their houses and cars unlocked. Why wouldn't they? There were no pull-out radios, no car alarms, no security codes, no passwords. There was no cyber-crime, identity theft, and a child abduction or murder was highly unusual.

If I find money in the street, I turn it in as it doesn't belong to me. I would think that everybody has the same standards, but they don't. Today it's all about self-interests, and that applies especially to the Government and Government officials. It's all about the bottom line.

The war on drugs is a huge business. Jails are a huge business. Health care is a huge business. And especially war fare is a huge business, netting trillions to US companies like Haliburton. And since huge businesses often make huge contributions to elected officials, that's how politics is made in this country.

Welcome to America!

Edited February 18, 2010 by Just Bob

[Married2009 32]

It's not funny at all. It's a serious thing that you can't trust the US Government or any Government for that fact. Hell, you can't even trust a cop, an attorney, a D.A. or the old lady next door.

That wasn't always the case, but times have changed.

I used to say "Hi" when I met children standing around, just like my parents taught me. The last time I did that when walking up the stairs of an apartment building, about 10 years ago, the one girl said to his brother: "we're not allowed to talk to strangers."

In the 1950s people left their houses and cars unlocked. Why wouldn't they? There were no pull-out radios, no car alarms, no security codes, no passwords. There was no cyber-crime, identity theft, and a child abduction or murder was highly unusual.

If I find money in the street, I turn it in as it doesn't belong to me. I would think that everybody has the same standards, but they don't. Today it's all about self-interests, and that applies especially to the Government and Government officials. It's all about the bottom line.

The war on drugs is a huge business. Jails are a huge business. Health care is a huge business. And especially war fare is a huge business, netting trillions to US companies like Haliburton. And since huge businesses often make huge contributions to elected officials, that's how politics is made in this country.

Welcome to America!

Not only here, it is in many many places.

[lierjo1202 0]

there's no country system that u can trust, nowadays, JUST SAY NO to DRUGS!, did you use drugs? NO

Edited February 18, 2010 by lierjo1202