Notifying Soc Security

[erika1228 0]

Hubby took his oath last Thursday. How do we go about notifying social security? Can we simply call them or do something online, or will we have to go to the SS office and wait in line for two hours???? (as you can tell I am not a fan of going to the SS office).

Thanks in advance and good luck to everyone else applying for citizenship!

[Otto 83]

You'll have to visit your local SSA office - the wait time may be shorter if you go during off-peak days (am guessing not at the first or middle of the month).

SSA Citizenship Update FAQ

SSA "What You Can Do Online"

[internetkafe 0]

Why do we have to notify SSA?

I have not notified them when I got the PR card, I was not thinking of doing it after naturalization either. What is the benefit of doing it?

[erika1228 0]

Why do we have to notify SSA?

I have not notified them when I got the PR card, I was not thinking of doing it after naturalization either. What is the benefit of doing it?

We were told in the Naturalization Ceremony that we had to notify SS once he became a citizen.

[internetkafe 0]

I see that it is a must. I wonder why, though...

[Otto 83]

I see that it is a must. I wonder why, though...

Perhaps so they know you qualify for benifits... (just guessing)

[lucyrich 20]

There are two main reasons for notifying the SSA of your citizenship status.

First, some benefits are not available to aliens.

Second, the USCIS e-verify system gets its data from the SSA database. Crazy as it may seem, the USCIS is the one that naturalized you, but they have no way to tell their own e-verify computers that you're a citizen. They find out your citizenship status by looking into the SSA computers, and if the SSA computers say you're an LPR, then you're an LPR according to USCIS e-verify. I'm not making this up.

Having the wrong status in e-verify may not be a huge problem right away. But if you apply for a job with an employer who uses e-verify at some time in the future (more and more employers are using e-verify, and more may be forced to do so in the future), you could show up as a mismatch. A non-citizen who presents a passport or naturalization certificate would be picked up by e-verify as a mismatch, because such a non-citizen couldn't possibly have a passport or naturalization certificate, therefore the documents must be fraudulent, because the government's computer couldn't possibly have made a mistake.

You don't want to wait until you get an e-verify mismatch to straighten this out. Go to the SSA office while your naturalization certificate and/or your new US passport is still handy and not locked away in a safe deposit box. There's no terribly urgent rush, but it's probably good to do in within a few weeks after naturalization.

[phillydude411 0]

So, I went to the SS office today to update my status, but while the lady was trying to submit the information to Homeland security she said the system was down and that SAVE booted her off. I asked her whether I need to be worried about all systems not having the correct information and if I need to come at another time, she asked me not to worry about it.

Should I be worried?

What is SAVE used for?

[internetkafe 0]

There are two main reasons for notifying the SSA of your citizenship status.

First, some benefits are not available to aliens.

Second, the USCIS e-verify system gets its data from the SSA database. Crazy as it may seem, the USCIS is the one that naturalized you, but they have no way to tell their own e-verify computers that you're a citizen. They find out your citizenship status by looking into the SSA computers, and if the SSA computers say you're an LPR, then you're an LPR according to USCIS e-verify. I'm not making this up.

Having the wrong status in e-verify may not be a huge problem right away. But if you apply for a job with an employer who uses e-verify at some time in the future (more and more employers are using e-verify, and more may be forced to do so in the future), you could show up as a mismatch. A non-citizen who presents a passport or naturalization certificate would be picked up by e-verify as a mismatch, because such a non-citizen couldn't possibly have a passport or naturalization certificate, therefore the documents must be fraudulent, because the government's computer couldn't possibly have made a mistake.

You don't want to wait until you get an e-verify mismatch to straighten this out. Go to the SSA office while your naturalization certificate and/or your new US passport is still handy and not locked away in a safe deposit box. There's no terribly urgent rush, but it's probably good to do in within a few weeks after naturalization.

I went to the SSA today before applying for a passport. On the passport application form, it says that the department of State checks the applicant's social security number against the social security numbers whose owners are not eligible to receive a passport. I have not updated my status with SSA since my K3 days. They said the system is down and it can take several weeks to update the records with Homeland Security.I sent the passport application. Will the certificate be enough to establish my eligibility?

[senegaulois 0]

There are two main reasons for notifying the SSA of your citizenship status.

First, some benefits are not available to aliens.

Second, the USCIS e-verify system gets its data from the SSA database. Crazy as it may seem, the USCIS is the one that naturalized you, but they have no way to tell their own e-verify computers that you're a citizen. They find out your citizenship status by looking into the SSA computers, and if the SSA computers say you're an LPR, then you're an LPR according to USCIS e-verify. I'm not making this up.

Having the wrong status in e-verify may not be a huge problem right away. But if you apply for a job with an employer who uses e-verify at some time in the future (more and more employers are using e-verify, and more may be forced to do so in the future), you could show up as a mismatch. A non-citizen who presents a passport or naturalization certificate would be picked up by e-verify as a mismatch, because such a non-citizen couldn't possibly have a passport or naturalization certificate, therefore the documents must be fraudulent, because the government's computer couldn't possibly have made a mistake.

You don't want to wait until you get an e-verify mismatch to straighten this out. Go to the SSA office while your naturalization certificate and/or your new US passport is still handy and not locked away in a safe deposit box. There's no terribly urgent rush, but it's probably good to do in within a few weeks after naturalization.

I went to the SSA today before applying for a passport. On the passport application form, it says that the department of State checks the applicant's social security number against the social security numbers whose owners are not eligible to receive a passport. I have not updated my status with SSA since my K3 days. They said the system is down and it can take several weeks to update the records with Homeland Security.I sent the passport application. Will the certificate be enough to establish my eligibility?

It is only in fairly recent times that one is obliged to provide an SS number on the passport application. At the risk of taking this discussion in another direction, the main issue here has nothing to do with citizenship status. It does, however, have everything to do with taxes. The US Government has or had no idea of the number of US citizens living permanently abroad, but concluded that a large number of them were not doing their patriotic duty of filing a tax return. The only thing that they had in common was the need to renew their passport every ten years. The SS number allowed State/IRS to cross reference the applications with the filed returns.

[internetkafe 0]

There are two main reasons for notifying the SSA of your citizenship status.

First, some benefits are not available to aliens.

Second, the USCIS e-verify system gets its data from the SSA database. Crazy as it may seem, the USCIS is the one that naturalized you, but they have no way to tell their own e-verify computers that you're a citizen. They find out your citizenship status by looking into the SSA computers, and if the SSA computers say you're an LPR, then you're an LPR according to USCIS e-verify. I'm not making this up.

Having the wrong status in e-verify may not be a huge problem right away. But if you apply for a job with an employer who uses e-verify at some time in the future (more and more employers are using e-verify, and more may be forced to do so in the future), you could show up as a mismatch. A non-citizen who presents a passport or naturalization certificate would be picked up by e-verify as a mismatch, because such a non-citizen couldn't possibly have a passport or naturalization certificate, therefore the documents must be fraudulent, because the government's computer couldn't possibly have made a mistake.

You don't want to wait until you get an e-verify mismatch to straighten this out. Go to the SSA office while your naturalization certificate and/or your new US passport is still handy and not locked away in a safe deposit box. There's no terribly urgent rush, but it's probably good to do in within a few weeks after naturalization.

I went to the SSA today before applying for a passport. On the passport application form, it says that the department of State checks the applicant's social security number against the social security numbers whose owners are not eligible to receive a passport. I have not updated my status with SSA since my K3 days. They said the system is down and it can take several weeks to update the records with Homeland Security.I sent the passport application. Will the certificate be enough to establish my eligibility?

It is only in fairly recent times that one is obliged to provide an SS number on the passport application. At the risk of taking this discussion in another direction, the main issue here has nothing to do with citizenship status. It does, however, have everything to do with taxes. The US Government has or had no idea of the number of US citizens living permanently abroad, but concluded that a large number of them were not doing their patriotic duty of filing a tax return. The only thing that they had in common was the need to renew their passport every ten years. The SS number allowed State/IRS to cross reference the applications with the filed returns.

Thank you for the explanation senegaulois

[satyam 0]

What form do we have to fill when applying for status change ( From PR to Citizen)?

[v333k 59]

What form do we have to fill when applying for status change ( From PR to Citizen)?

You need to file N-400

[lucyrich 20]

What form do we have to fill when applying for status change ( From PR to Citizen)?

You need to file N-400

You're correct about what form to file with the USCIS to cause the status to change.

I read the question differently, to mean what form to file with the social security agency to report the change of status that had already been made. If that's what the question is, I believe you file an SS-5, which is the generic form to file for a new card. You don't really need a new card, but that's the brilliant bureacracy for you -- the way to report a status change is to ask for a new card. And you'll get a new card, but it will look exactly like the old card.

[satyam 0]

What form do we have to fill when applying for status change ( From PR to Citizen)?

You need to file N-400

You're correct about what form to file with the USCIS to cause the status to change.

I read the question differently, to mean what form to file with the social security agency to report the change of status that had already been made. If that's what the question is, I believe you file an SS-5, which is the generic form to file for a new card. You don't really need a new card, but that's the brilliant bureacracy for you -- the way to report a status change is to ask for a new card. And you'll get a new card, but it will look exactly like the old card.

Yes sir..You got my question right. I thought about it but still doubted why whould i need a new when i already got one .LOL

I Appreciate your input.