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My reasoning was not to defend their behaviour, but to minimize the inflammatory generalized comments. We all have opinions, and often those opinions change when the person who commits a sexual offence is a relative or someone who we know. I just wanted to comment since yes, I worked with sexual offenders for many years, and I also liked many of them. While I don't personally agree with a registry, it does allow for people to know where people who have been convicted of sexual crimes live, and that in itself could mean that some people feel safer knowing. People should be more diligent on making sure that people who aren't on the list are safe to be around perhaps?

I thought I'd throw my comments in secondly, as I find it rather interestingly how people can be open minded and want to learn more information about "strippers" and yet make generalized statements about some people who they perceive as "boogeymen". Just my opinion.

I won't go into the perception of sex offenders at all as you've got a wealth more experience in dealing with these people than I. I would only say that stripping is a job that some people find objectionable, being a sex offender is a much much different thing. Opinions on each really would be like comparing apples to oranges.

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Carla, with great respects, explain to me how one one sympathize or find likable with someone who sodomized a 2 year old? I surely don't have the experience you do in dealings with sexual offenders, but I find it hard to separate the person from the behaviour. Also, it's very hard for me to understand what causes someone, psychology, to commit sexual abuse on children. Most of us can't comprehend it and many people I'm sure would also say that what happens in the past to someone can affect their mental health. However, my parents both had parents that beat them due to alcoholism...that didn't turn them into abusers. I think you get my point, even if it's not right.

Do we say terrorists actually are good people and have good hearts, they just present bad behaviour?

Do we say that people who violently murder others, like Charles Manson, are really down to earth people but they just made the wrong decision?

Even in those "crime of passion" instances

My point is, is that it is our behaviour which is most important and I don't think it's possible, at least in the world I live in (in my head) to separate someone from their actions.

I would only say that stripping is a job that some people find objectionable, being a sex offender is a much much different thing. Opinions on each really would be like comparing apples to oranges.

I'd have to agree.

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Strippers don't rape people. Strippers don't sodomize children.

You're attempting to compare apples to oranges.

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Stripping is a legal profession that men/women do willingly, they are not victims.

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What does a tongue in cheek thread about strippers have anything to do with perceptions of sex offenders? I find no correlation there. I agree that they are people too, but that is one aspect of who they are. I think people should get second chances, but I would NOT take any chances when it comes to the health and well being of my wife or any hypothetical children. Would I employ a sex offender? Yes, I probably would, but not for any position that requires any contact with someone at risk to a repeat of their offensive act. I understand that a lot of them are ill and they require care. But does that lessen my obligation of due dilligence to ensure my family is safe and secure? From my perspective, the best and safest way is to make sure that there is zero contact with said offenders.

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Stripping on a stage where people pay to have you come up and rub against them is not grounds to get either of you on the sexual offender registry. But try that outside in the parking lot. Now you're on the SO registry.

I don't think if you sleep with a stripper or prostitute gets you on the SO registry.... yes you'll get arrested but being on the SO registry means one of you was a victim, unwilling to participate in the sex act. Sleeping with a prostitute, both parties are willing and able

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I live in a small town and was very surprised to see the number of sexual offenders on our list. However, I beleive that sometimes how someone gets on that list can be taken too far.

My understanding is (which can vary by state) that if an 18 year old had consensual sex with a 16 year old, you can be potentially listed. I find that is too extreme and unfair in those cases.

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Oh and you find it funny we want to learn more about strippers.

I find it funny that just a couple of weeks ago you were telling Amanda that she is the meanest person you know yet can justify the actions of a pervert.

Sorry but that just bothers me.

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Stripping on a stage where people pay to have you come up and rub against them is not grounds to get either of you on the sexual offender registry. But try that outside in the parking lot. Now you're on the SO registry.

I don't think if you sleep with a stripper or prostitute gets you on the SO registry.... yes you'll get arrested but being on the SO registry means one of you was a victim, unwilling to participate in the sex act. Sleeping with a prostitute, both parties are willing and able

Soliciting a prostitute is still illegal (save for a few counties in Nevada) mkay. :devil:

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Stripping on a stage where people pay to have you come up and rub against them is not grounds to get either of you on the sexual offender registry. But try that outside in the parking lot. Now you're on the SO registry.

I don't think if you sleep with a stripper or prostitute gets you on the SO registry.... yes you'll get arrested but being on the SO registry means one of you was a victim, unwilling to participate in the sex act. Sleeping with a prostitute, both parties are willing and able

Soliciting a prostitute is still illegal (save for a few counties in Nevada) mkay. :devil:

I know it's illegal.... and you'll get arrested. I just don't think it classifies you as a sex offender. Not sure though, I could be wrong.

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I don't think if you sleep with a stripper or prostitute gets you on the SO registry.... yes you'll get arrested but being on the SO registry means one of you was a victim, unwilling to participate in the sex act. Sleeping with a prostitute, both parties are willing and able

Yes, like Sly Wolf says, there are ways to get on the registry without having an unwilling participant. There are a few posts over in OT where the members know people who are on it for relieving themselves in the parking lot after a night at the club.

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I don't think if you sleep with a stripper or prostitute gets you on the SO registry.... yes you'll get arrested but being on the SO registry means one of you was a victim, unwilling to participate in the sex act. Sleeping with a prostitute, both parties are willing and able

Yes, like Sly Wolf says, there are ways to get on the registry without having an unwilling participant. There are a few posts over in OT where the members know people who are on it for relieving themselves in the parking lot after a night at the club.

I see, I see. I just don't think you can compare the actions of a stripper to that of a pedophile or rapist, that's all.

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Stripping on a stage where people pay to have you come up and rub against them is not grounds to get either of you on the sexual offender registry. But try that outside in the parking lot. Now you're on the SO registry.

I don't think if you sleep with a stripper or prostitute gets you on the SO registry.... yes you'll get arrested but being on the SO registry means one of you was a victim, unwilling to participate in the sex act. Sleeping with a prostitute, both parties are willing and able

Soliciting a prostitute is still illegal (save for a few counties in Nevada) mkay. :devil:

I know it's illegal.... and you'll get arrested. I just don't think it classifies you as a sex offender. Not sure though, I could be wrong.

Depending on the mitigating circumstances, you could. You can be classified as a sex offender for mooning someone out of a car window :blink:

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