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Just wondering what constitutes a denial from either the USCIS or NVC on behalf of the petitioner? And if the petition is denied what do you do after? I do not personally think I have anything to worry about I would just like to be prepared if anything was to arise.

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I-129F sent:2009-06-04

NOA1: 2009-06-09

NOA2: 2009-09-16

NVC Received: 2009-09-17

NVC Left: 2009-09-22

Consulate Received: 2009-09-25

Medical: IOM, Moscow, 2009-12-07

Interview: 2009-12-08

Visa Received: 2009-12-14

Arrival to USA: 2010-01-15

Marriage: 2010-03-27

AOS, EAD, AP

CIS Office: Charleston, SC

Filed AOS Package: 2010-05-26

NOA: 2010-06-04

Bio Appt: 2010-07-09

AOS Transfer to CSC: 2010-06-30

EAD Card Production Order: 2010-08-04

AP Received: 2010-08-09

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I-751 sent: 2012-7-11

NOA-1: 2012-8-1

Bio-Appointment: 2012-9-19

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They send you a letter stating they are going to deny your petition.

Reasons could include misrepresentation, not divorced, haven't met in the 2 years prior to the petition, the petitioner fell under the IMBRA/AWA, things like that.

If it's denied, you would try to appeal the decision.

My Advice is usually based on "Worst Case Scenario" and what is written in the rules/laws/instructions. That is the way I roll... -Protect your Status - file before your I-94 expires.

WARNING: Phrases in this post may sound meaner than they were intended to be. Read the Adjudicator's Field Manual from USCIS

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One reason is you cannot prove that you can provide enough support. IF you are below proverty level income wise, you may need a sponser.

The Affidavit of Support does not come into play until after the approval of the I-129F.

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They send you a letter stating they are going to deny your petition.

Reasons could include misrepresentation, not divorced, haven't met in the 2 years prior to the petition, the petitioner fell under the IMBRA/AWA, things like that.

If it's denied, you would try to appeal the decision.

Bobby_Umit,

What is IMBRA/AWA? What would be to "fall under" them?

Thanks!

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09/11/2009 - NOA2 approved!!

09/14/2009 - Touched

09/16/2009 - NVC received

09/18/2009 - NVC left

09/22/2009 - Consulate received

10/02/2009 - Pkt 4 received

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They send you a letter stating they are going to deny your petition.

Reasons could include misrepresentation, not divorced, haven't met in the 2 years prior to the petition, the petitioner fell under the IMBRA/AWA, things like that.

If it's denied, you would try to appeal the decision.

Bobby_Umit,

What is IMBRA/AWA? What would be to "fall under" them?

Thanks!

IMBR = International Marriage Broker Regulation

(Using a pay site to find a foreign bride (plus you can only have so many K-1's submitted, etc..)

AWA = Adam Walsh Act

(Convicted of sex crime with a child, no visas for you)

Those two can affect your chances of getting visas.

My Advice is usually based on "Worst Case Scenario" and what is written in the rules/laws/instructions. That is the way I roll... -Protect your Status - file before your I-94 expires.

WARNING: Phrases in this post may sound meaner than they were intended to be. Read the Adjudicator's Field Manual from USCIS

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They send you a letter stating they are going to deny your petition.

Reasons could include misrepresentation, not divorced, haven't met in the 2 years prior to the petition, the petitioner fell under the IMBRA/AWA, things like that.

If it's denied, you would try to appeal the decision.

Bobby_Umit,

What is IMBRA/AWA? What would be to "fall under" them?

Thanks!

IMBR = International Marriage Broker Regulation

(Using a pay site to find a foreign bride (plus you can only have so many K-1's submitted, etc..)

AWA = Adam Walsh Act

(Convicted of sex crime with a child, no visas for you)

Those two can affect your chances of getting visas.

Hey,

My fiancé and I met online through an online dating website. We paid to use it, but we had the option to join for free (we wouldn't have the chance to get in touch with so many people tough).

We never thought that the website we used would be considered as a marriage broker, but our lawyer told us it would be better to say that we met through a marriage broker, that it wouldn't have any problems for us...

He and I haven't commited any sex crime.

Sorry about so many questions but why is that could be a problem?

Thanks,

Lu

Edited by Lu & Keith

"Pedis e obtereis"

OUR TIMELINE

05/28/2009 - I-129F Sent

06/02/2009 - NOA1

06/04/2009 - Check cashed

09/11/2009 - Touched!

09/11/2009 - NOA2 approved!!

09/14/2009 - Touched

09/16/2009 - NVC received

09/18/2009 - NVC left

09/22/2009 - Consulate received

10/02/2009 - Pkt 4 received

10/29/2009 - Medical - PASSED!!

11/10/2009 - Interview - APPROVED!

11/16/2009 - Visa received!

11/24/2009 - Arrived at the USA

12/08/2009 - Got married!!

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They send you a letter stating they are going to deny your petition.

Reasons could include misrepresentation, not divorced, haven't met in the 2 years prior to the petition, the petitioner fell under the IMBRA/AWA, things like that.

If it's denied, you would try to appeal the decision.

Bobby_Umit,

What is IMBRA/AWA? What would be to "fall under" them?

Thanks!

IMBR = International Marriage Broker Regulation

(Using a pay site to find a foreign bride (plus you can only have so many K-1's submitted, etc..)

AWA = Adam Walsh Act

(Convicted of sex crime with a child, no visas for you)

Those two can affect your chances of getting visas.

Hey,

My fiancé and I met online through an online dating website. We paid to use it, but we had the option to join for free (we wouldn't have the chance to get in touch with so many people tough).

Our lawyer told us it would be better to say that we met through a marriage broker, that it wouldn't have any problems for us...

He and I haven't commited any sex crime.

Sorry about so many questions but why is that could be a problem?

Thanks,

Lu

As long as you mark the IMBR question correctly (since you said you met through a marriage broker), should be no problem at all for you.

However, from what you said about that site, I don't believe it falls under the IMBR. But I'm not a lawyer, charging you 1000's of dollars to fill out forms :whistle:

My Advice is usually based on "Worst Case Scenario" and what is written in the rules/laws/instructions. That is the way I roll... -Protect your Status - file before your I-94 expires.

WARNING: Phrases in this post may sound meaner than they were intended to be. Read the Adjudicator's Field Manual from USCIS

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As long as you mark the IMBR question correctly (since you said you met through a marriage broker), should be no problem at all for you.

However, from what you said about that site, I don't believe it falls under the IMBR. But I'm not a lawyer, charging you 1000's of dollars to fill out forms :whistle:

Bob_Umit,

Yes, many people ask us why a lawyer...

My fiancé is currently working in Afghanistan, as a NATO contractor. He thought it would be better for us to have some assistence, since he wouldn't be able to look for information and check on things, especially his mail.

His main worry for now there is not to get caught, shot or blown up. :wacko:

When we started the process, we didn't have a clue about what it was, so he thought that having someone to do things for us would help us (again, since he is quite busy there and things like Internet, fax, phone, don't work properly). I understand him, so I agreed with that.

But I'd rather talk to you guys here, this is what I've been doing...

What if the website we met through does not fall under the IMBR? Since we said it was, what would happen?

Thanks again!! :thumbs:

Lu

Edited by Lu & Keith

"Pedis e obtereis"

OUR TIMELINE

05/28/2009 - I-129F Sent

06/02/2009 - NOA1

06/04/2009 - Check cashed

09/11/2009 - Touched!

09/11/2009 - NOA2 approved!!

09/14/2009 - Touched

09/16/2009 - NVC received

09/18/2009 - NVC left

09/22/2009 - Consulate received

10/02/2009 - Pkt 4 received

10/29/2009 - Medical - PASSED!!

11/10/2009 - Interview - APPROVED!

11/16/2009 - Visa received!

11/24/2009 - Arrived at the USA

12/08/2009 - Got married!!

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I wouldn't worry about it.

My Advice is usually based on "Worst Case Scenario" and what is written in the rules/laws/instructions. That is the way I roll... -Protect your Status - file before your I-94 expires.

WARNING: Phrases in this post may sound meaner than they were intended to be. Read the Adjudicator's Field Manual from USCIS

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I wouldn't worry about it.

Meeting in a chat room wouldn't be considered a marriage broker correct? We actually met through a chat room on skype..... I think the Marriage Broker stuff is reserved for men (Women?) that find their perspective mate through a "Mail Order" type service.

K-1,VSC, Moscow Consulate

I-129F sent:2009-06-04

NOA1: 2009-06-09

NOA2: 2009-09-16

NVC Received: 2009-09-17

NVC Left: 2009-09-22

Consulate Received: 2009-09-25

Medical: IOM, Moscow, 2009-12-07

Interview: 2009-12-08

Visa Received: 2009-12-14

Arrival to USA: 2010-01-15

Marriage: 2010-03-27

AOS, EAD, AP

CIS Office: Charleston, SC

Filed AOS Package: 2010-05-26

NOA: 2010-06-04

Bio Appt: 2010-07-09

AOS Transfer to CSC: 2010-06-30

EAD Card Production Order: 2010-08-04

AP Received: 2010-08-09

ROC

I-751 sent: 2012-7-11

NOA-1: 2012-8-1

Bio-Appointment: 2012-9-19

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I wouldn't worry about it.

Meeting in a chat room wouldn't be considered a marriage broker correct? We actually met through a chat room on skype..... I think the Marriage Broker stuff is reserved for men (Women?) that find their perspective mate through a "Mail Order" type service.

correct. it wouldn't meet the criteria of IMBR.

Read up on the IMBR - there are guidelines on what they consider to fall under - even a thread in K-1 here talks about it - I cite the actual law, and the exceptions to the rule.

But im to lazy right now to link to it - and I'm going to bed :blush:

Just do a search on "dating" in this forum = you will see it :thumbs:

My Advice is usually based on "Worst Case Scenario" and what is written in the rules/laws/instructions. That is the way I roll... -Protect your Status - file before your I-94 expires.

WARNING: Phrases in this post may sound meaner than they were intended to be. Read the Adjudicator's Field Manual from USCIS

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They send you a letter stating they are going to deny your petition.

Reasons could include misrepresentation, not divorced, haven't met in the 2 years prior to the petition, the petitioner fell under the IMBRA/AWA, things like that.

If it's denied, you would try to appeal the decision.

Bobby_Umit,

What is IMBRA/AWA? What would be to "fall under" them?

Thanks!

IMBR = International Marriage Broker Regulation

(Using a pay site to find a foreign bride (plus you can only have so many K-1's submitted, etc..)

AWA = Adam Walsh Act

(Convicted of sex crime with a child, no visas for you)

Those two can affect your chances of getting visas.

Hey,

My fiancé and I met online through an online dating website. We paid to use it, but we had the option to join for free (we wouldn't have the chance to get in touch with so many people tough).

Our lawyer told us it would be better to say that we met through a marriage broker, that it wouldn't have any problems for us...

He and I haven't commited any sex crime.

Sorry about so many questions but why is that could be a problem?

Thanks,

Lu

As long as you mark the IMBR question correctly (since you said you met through a marriage broker), should be no problem at all for you.

However, from what you said about that site, I don't believe it falls under the IMBR. But I'm not a lawyer, charging you 1000's of dollars to fill out forms :whistle:

WHOA!

He did not say he met through a marriage broker. He said it was an internet dating website and that he paid a fee. It takes a whole lot more than that to be an International Marriage Broker.

An I-129F petition will be denied for the following reasons.

1. The petitioner is not a US Citizen

2. The couple hasn't met in person in the past two years.

3. The petitioner has been convicted of a sex crime against a child.

4. The petitioner has exceeded the number of allowed petitions filed and no waiver was requested or the requested waiver was denied.

People who meet on internet dating websites, answer "NO" when asked if they met through an international marriage broker. This is a common misconception though, as the I-129F instructions fail to mention the exceptions to the definition they show. The vast majority of internet dating sites are not IMBs. All that said, I've seen no evidence it makes a bit of difference how you answer the IMB question on the forms. Vast numbers of people have said yes when they should have said no.

I wouldn't worry about it.

Meeting in a chat room wouldn't be considered a marriage broker correct? We actually met through a chat room on skype..... I think the Marriage Broker stuff is reserved for men (Women?) that find their perspective mate through a "Mail Order" type service.

correct. it wouldn't meet the criteria of IMBR.

Read up on the IMBR - there are guidelines on what they consider to fall under - even a thread in K-1 here talks about it - I cite the actual law, and the exceptions to the rule.

But im to lazy right now to link to it - and I'm going to bed :blush:

Just do a search on "dating" in this forum = you will see it :thumbs:

Unfortunately, you've misinterpreted the "exceptions" by failing to read carefully and interpret literally.

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WHOA!

He did not say he met through a marriage broker. He said it was an internet dating website and that he paid a fee. It takes a whole lot more than that to be an International Marriage Broker.

An I-129F petition will be denied for the following reasons.

1. The petitioner is not a US Citizen

2. The couple hasn't met in person in the past two years.

3. The petitioner has been convicted of a sex crime against a child.

4. The petitioner has exceeded the number of allowed petitions filed and no waiver was requested or the requested waiver was denied.

People who meet on internet dating websites, answer "NO" when asked if they met through an international marriage broker. This is a common misconception though, as the I-129F instructions fail to mention the exceptions to the definition they show. The vast majority of internet dating sites are not IMBs. All that said, I've seen no evidence it makes a bit of difference how you answer the IMB question on the forms. Vast numbers of people have said yes when they should have said no.

Pushbrk,

Keith and I really thought it was not a marriage broker, but like I said, we answered according to our lawyer's instructions...

Apparently we said YES when we should have said NO... What now?

Can you see any problem with that?

Thanks

Lu

Edited by Lu & Keith

"Pedis e obtereis"

OUR TIMELINE

05/28/2009 - I-129F Sent

06/02/2009 - NOA1

06/04/2009 - Check cashed

09/11/2009 - Touched!

09/11/2009 - NOA2 approved!!

09/14/2009 - Touched

09/16/2009 - NVC received

09/18/2009 - NVC left

09/22/2009 - Consulate received

10/02/2009 - Pkt 4 received

10/29/2009 - Medical - PASSED!!

11/10/2009 - Interview - APPROVED!

11/16/2009 - Visa received!

11/24/2009 - Arrived at the USA

12/08/2009 - Got married!!

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One reason is you cannot prove that you can provide enough support. IF you are below proverty level income wise, you may need a sponser.

No. He is asking about the petition. No financial information is required for that. Financial information is provided at the visa interview AFTER the petition is approved.

The most common cause for denials on K-1s is lack of evidence of meeting in person.

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