Pay attention to this!!! Biometrics codes

[cesarestrella 0]

I got Code 1 in my biometrics appt. letter

I am also filing for removal of conditions. :/

[poochie 0]

I got Code 1 in my biometrics appt. letter

I am also filing for removal of conditions. :/

Have you gone to your local ASC? You should definitely talk it over with an officer in your local ASC on your biometrics day. I'm not surprised of the inconsistencies though.

[jasminelily 1]

I got Code 1 in my biometrics appt. letter

I am also filing for removal of conditions. :/

That's why the lady at the ASC who took Maryces' fingerprints said there are lots of wrong code recently.

Feel so sorry for the government agency's incompetence.

[poochie 0]

Just from experience, code 3 was used for the AOS and conditional green card, code 2 is used for your ten year card where your photo and right index finger is on it, and code 1 was used for the N-400 as then, you have to supply your own passport type photos that are used directly on your USC certificate. Three separate long trips just for biometrics.

Really?! I got code 3 for both AOS and ROC. Anyone else?

I had Code 3 for AOS and is expecting the same for my ROC, and it will be more than a year since I last had my photo taken (if my calculations are correct) and am not expecting to receive my ROC biometrics appointment before it "expires";

To explain why such code is important in I-751, below is from the USCIS bulletin update dated Feb 2007,

"U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) announces the implementation of a new nationwide

biometrics process for conditional permanent residents who file Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions

on Residence. The new process is effective immediately.The new process, as authorized in 71 Federal Register 15469 (March 28, 2006), requires all conditional permanent residents to appear at a USCIS Application Support Center (ASC) after filing Form I-751 in order to have their biometrics electronically captured.

An ASC appointment notice will automatically be sent by mail to the applicant with the specific date, time and location for biometric processing. Biometric processing includes the electronic capture of an applicant’s photograph, signature, index fingerprint and ten-print fingerprints. The photograph, signature and index fingerprint are used to generate the lawful permanent resident card, if the Form I-751 is approved. The ten-print fingerprints are captured for the purpose of conducting a criminal background check and are processed for applicants between the ages of 14 and 79.

Applicants (except for “overseas applicants” described below) will no longer be required to submit passportstyle

photographs, since photographs will be captured at an ASC."

As to what the USCIS do back in the old days for I-751 processing,

"Under the old process, following the approval of Form I-751, an approval notice was issued instructing the applicant to appear at a USCIS District Office for processing of his or her Form I-551, Permanent Resident Card (“Green Card”). The approved applicant would manually submit passport-style photographs, index fingerprints, and a signature on Form I-89, I-551 or I-586 Card Data Collection Form, for creation of his or her permanent resident card."

Knowing what to expect and understanding the process would, IMHO, definitely help to ensure that these USCIS folks are rendering the proper service, one cannot rely on their so called "competence" and training alone.

And one would think that they know what they are doing, they really know what they are doing....NOT!!

[maryces21 0]

Yes, i got denied just for that, and believe me it did not feel good at all.

[jasminelily 1]

Yes, i got denied just for that, and believe me it did not feel good at all.

I know Maryces. We all know. We believe you. We understand how one can be, at least I will be . Perhaps all people who got wrong code should get together to write the Director of USCIS a letter, to urge them to get their acts together. Or go to the media. Wondering what's the percentage of right code versus wrong code.

[poochie 0]

Yes, i got denied just for that, and believe me it did not feel good at all.

I know Maryces. We all know. We believe you. We understand how one can be, at least I will be . Perhaps all people who got wrong code should get together to write the Director of USCIS a letter, to urge them to get their acts together. Or go to the media. Wondering what's the percentage of right code versus wrong code.

I made a poll, vote in my poll. let's see what other VJ members are getting in their biometrics notice

Edited April 16, 2009 by poochie

[Cuchita 1]

Oh lord, thanks Marices this is very very helpful.

XOXO,

[antda 13]

Hi Maryces21,

I'm sorry to hear that this "mistake" happened to you, and because of this, your case got "denied". How the heck can someone confuse one set of fingerprints code with another set of fingerprints code and not know know about it, and then have the guts to put you in a dangerous immigration situation because of this? Incompentent officers, indeed!

It's not your fault, and you shouldn't have to waste your time, effort, money, etc. in having to deal with this. If I were you, I would also file a formal complaint (through a senator, congresspeson, directly with the USCIS, etc.) regarding your case, making them more aware of this issue so it shouldn't happen to anyone again. This is just plain wrong, and you deserve better treatment than this!

Despite that, I hope that they do get your situation sorted out, and I pray too that you will get your 10yr green card soon, especially more so that you've been waiting for more than 1 year for your approval and have to go through this ordeal.

Good luck with the rest of your immigration journey too. And yes, do keep us updated as to what happens next.

Ant (Still waiting for I-751, Still waiting for Baby...)

Hi guys:

I just want to give you and update about my case, today they took my fingerprints and everything was OK. But when I gave my letter to the person that take the fingerprints, she asked me if i have been fingerprint there before and i said yes, so she asked me for the letter and when she looked at them she was mad (not with me), she told me that some offices have been sending wrong code on the letters in my first letter a had code # 2 and in this letter i had code #1; and she told me they supposed to sent me code # 3, instead of send me two letters with code # 1 and code # 2. I know it is confusing, so then she explained me this:

CODE # 1 = 10 FINGERS BIOMETRICS

CODE # 2 = RIGHT INDEX FINGERPRINT AND PICTURE

CODE # 3 = ALL OF THE ABOVE

I did not know that, so i never pay attention to the codes i thought they knew it what they were sending. She also told me that they are being doing this mistake lately and it has to stop, they took copies of my notices and gave them to a officer that is gonna contact the office and bring this to their attention. That is making them to loose their time and my time (just for a simple number).

anyway guys, I let you know if they send me my green card soon. I'm praying everything will be all right this time.

Edited April 16, 2009 by AntandD

[cesarestrella 0]

Hi Maryces21,

I'm sorry to hear that this "mistake" happened to you, and because of this, your case got "denied". How the heck can someone confuse one set of fingerprints code with another set of fingerprints code and not know know about it, and then have the guts to put you in a dangerous immigration situation because of this? Incompentent officers, indeed!

It's not your fault, and you shouldn't have to waste your time, effort, money, etc. in having to deal with this. If I were you, I would also file a formal complaint (through a senator, congresspeson, directly with the USCIS, etc.) regarding your case, making them more aware of this issue so it shouldn't happen to anyone again. This is just plain wrong, and you deserve better treatment than this!

Despite that, I hope that they do get your situation sorted out, and I pray too that you will get your 10yr green card soon, especially more so that you've been waiting for more than 1 year for your approval and have to go through this ordeal.

Good luck with the rest of your immigration journey too. And yes, do keep us updated as to what happens next.

Ant (Still waiting for I-751, Still waiting for Baby...)

Hi guys:

I just want to give you and update about my case, today they took my fingerprints and everything was OK. But when I gave my letter to the person that take the fingerprints, she asked me if i have been fingerprint there before and i said yes, so she asked me for the letter and when she looked at them she was mad (not with me), she told me that some offices have been sending wrong code on the letters in my first letter a had code # 2 and in this letter i had code #1; and she told me they supposed to sent me code # 3, instead of send me two letters with code # 1 and code # 2. I know it is confusing, so then she explained me this:

CODE # 1 = 10 FINGERS BIOMETRICS

CODE # 2 = RIGHT INDEX FINGERPRINT AND PICTURE

CODE # 3 = ALL OF THE ABOVE

I did not know that, so i never pay attention to the codes i thought they knew it what they were sending. She also told me that they are being doing this mistake lately and it has to stop, they took copies of my notices and gave them to a officer that is gonna contact the office and bring this to their attention. That is making them to loose their time and my time (just for a simple number).

anyway guys, I let you know if they send me my green card soon. I'm praying everything will be all right this time.

Well,

I haven't been able to follow up on this threat... so here's what happened.

I go to the ASC office n while she's taking my fingerprints, i ask her why is she only taking my fingerprints..and not my picture and signature she asked me if i submitted photos along with my application and i told her yes (the "immigration guy" that helped me out said we needed to submit them... so he took passport-style pictures of me.

So she says that those picture i sent problably will go in my greencard... i dun wanna get denied like the person above... any advice?

Thanks-

[Immigrant2009 0]

I didn't know either. But i guess it doesn't matter that much does it after you are done with biometric appointment and your case date is updated.

[scooby06 0]

Hello,

After reading this topic I dicided to investigate a little deeper. This is what I found on the USCIS website:

New Biometrics Process for Conditional Permanent Residents 2007

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) announces the implementation of a new nationwide biometrics process for conditional permanent residents who file Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence. The new process is effective immediately. Under the old process, following the approval of Form I-751, an approval notice was issued instructing the applicant to appear at a USCIS District Office for processing of his or her Form I-551, Permanent Resident Card ("Green Card"). The approved applicant would manually submit passport-style photographs, index fingerprints, and a signature on Form I-89, I-551 or I-586 Card Data Collection Form, for creation of his or her permanent resident card. The new process, as authorized in 71 Federal Register 15469 (March 28, 2006), requires all conditional permanent residents to appear at a USCIS Application Support Center (ASC) after filing Form I-751 in order to have their biometrics electronically captured. An ASC appointment notice will automatically be sent by mail to the applicant with the specific date, time and location for biometric processing. Biometric processing includes the electronic capture of an applicant's photograph, signature, index fingerprint and ten-print fingerprints. The photograph, signature and index fingerprint are used to generate the lawful permanent resident card, if the Form I-751 is approved. The ten-print fingerprints are captured for the purpose of conducting a criminal background check and are processed for applicants between the ages of 14 and 79. Applicants (except for "overseas applicants" described below) will no longer be required to submit passportstylephotographs, since photographs will be captured at an ASC.

At the top of your fingerprint notice is a box for "code." Code 1 is for a fingerprinting appointment; Code 2 is for a biometrics appointment; and Code 3 is a combination fingerprinting/biometrics appointment. I hope they dent me the right code#.