The Vent - Part 2

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Oh I didn't mean for sport.

[Hugglebuggles 60]

Ok back to some real venting now...27 days until the interview! This is going to be the longest 27 days!! I just want it to be over with! On a lighter note I just got the engagement portraits from the photographer and they turned out wonderful!

I tried to input my own random rant but It got lost in the arguing Good luck! the waiting is much harder than the actual interview!

And in other news, I got the font to work!! I feel so techy! Even though my fiance called and walked me through it

[Ling Ling 22]

there are no invites..

Great, then everyone is invited...right?

You really need to get together and create a consistent message.

Either you're all special because of a random circumstance of birth, only those invited can participate, or it's a public forum.

Maybe it's a combination of all 3. Whatever.

I never said you (or anyone else) had to be invited. Anyone can post; however, that doesn't mean anyone will "accept" you or want you here. There's a substantial difference between the two.

And YOU are the one who has the power to determine who will be "accepted"?

No...that doesn't sound arrogant at all.

Nope. I don't have the "power" to determine anything on a forum-wide scale. I do, however, have the ability to make a personal choice (as do the others here) and if that choice involves an opinion of someone else, so be it.

Although I must admit... it's more than somewhat ironic that you consider my attitude as arrogant.

Sure did sound as if you were speaking from a position of assumed power. Sure didn't sound like you were speaking individually for yourself.

Yes, your elitist attitude does come across as arrogant. Where is the irony? I'm not the one going around saying who is worthy or will be "accepted" to post where.

You're missing the point.

You might have a legitimate complaint. Your methods, however, won't get your very far. Try speaking to us in a polite manner, without sarcastic or antagonistic language. You might be surprised how people react. Maybe you'd even get an apology for whatever was said about you.

As it stands right now, very few are even listening to you. So you're merely banging your head on a brick wall. Hardly constructive, is it?

There you go speaking for the masses again. How can someone being attacked be considered antagonistic? That sounds like LAPD logic.

"The more I beat him, the more he antagonized me by throwing his body into my baton".

[beans 7]

I spent the last two days in a leadership conference for work and I have come to the realization that Ling Ling is an S personality.

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What's an S personality?

[Ling Ling 22]

I spent the last two days in a leadership conference for work and I have come to the realization that Ling Ling is an S personality.

Thanks Beans, that's very sweet of you.

Just when I thought this thread was full of mindless insults.

http://www.wittcom.com/DISC_S_personality.htm

[DeadPoolX 9]

there are no invites..

Great, then everyone is invited...right?

You really need to get together and create a consistent message.

Either you're all special because of a random circumstance of birth, only those invited can participate, or it's a public forum.

Maybe it's a combination of all 3. Whatever.

I never said you (or anyone else) had to be invited. Anyone can post; however, that doesn't mean anyone will "accept" you or want you here. There's a substantial difference between the two.

And YOU are the one who has the power to determine who will be "accepted"?

No...that doesn't sound arrogant at all.

Nope. I don't have the "power" to determine anything on a forum-wide scale. I do, however, have the ability to make a personal choice (as do the others here) and if that choice involves an opinion of someone else, so be it.

Although I must admit... it's more than somewhat ironic that you consider my attitude as arrogant.

Sure did sound as if you were speaking from a position of assumed power. Sure didn't sound like you were speaking individually for yourself.

Yes, your elitist attitude does come across as arrogant. Where is the irony? I'm not the one going around saying who is worthy or will be "accepted" to post where.

You're missing the point.

You might have a legitimate complaint. Your methods, however, won't get your very far. Try speaking to us in a polite manner, without sarcastic or antagonistic language. You might be surprised how people react. Maybe you'd even get an apology for whatever was said about you.

As it stands right now, very few are even listening to you. So you're merely banging your head on a brick wall. Hardly constructive, is it?

There you go speaking for the masses again. How can someone being attacked be considered antagonistic? That sounds like LAPD logic.

"The more I beat him, the more he antagonized me by throwing his body into my baton".

Yes, perhaps something nasty was said about you. I'm sure you want some sort of apology. But how is that going to occur when you return the attack?

When someone (or a group) is attacked, the very last thing that's thought of is rendering an apology. Those who've been attacked react in a defensive -- and sometimes offensive -- manner. I'm sure you can agree, given your situation.

The problem with all of this is that very little gets done when two entities are opposed to one another. One group will lash out and then other will respond. The cycle continues.

Why lower yourself to the level of those who originally insulted you? Why not attempt to discuss the issue in a polite fashion?

Edited April 30, 2009 by DeadPoolX

[The_Dude 1,142]

there are no invites..

Great, then everyone is invited...right?

You really need to get together and create a consistent message.

Either you're all special because of a random circumstance of birth, only those invited can participate, or it's a public forum.

Maybe it's a combination of all 3. Whatever.

I never said you (or anyone else) had to be invited. Anyone can post; however, that doesn't mean anyone will "accept" you or want you here. There's a substantial difference between the two.

And YOU are the one who has the power to determine who will be "accepted"?

No...that doesn't sound arrogant at all.

Nope. I don't have the "power" to determine anything on a forum-wide scale. I do, however, have the ability to make a personal choice (as do the others here) and if that choice involves an opinion of someone else, so be it.

Although I must admit... it's more than somewhat ironic that you consider my attitude as arrogant.

Sure did sound as if you were speaking from a position of assumed power. Sure didn't sound like you were speaking individually for yourself.

Yes, your elitist attitude does come across as arrogant. Where is the irony? I'm not the one going around saying who is worthy or will be "accepted" to post where.

You're missing the point.

You might have a legitimate complaint. Your methods, however, won't get your very far. Try speaking to us in a polite manner, without sarcastic or antagonistic language. You might be surprised how people react. Maybe you'd even get an apology for whatever was said about you.

As it stands right now, very few are even listening to you. So you're merely banging your head on a brick wall. Hardly constructive, is it?

There you go speaking for the masses again. How can someone being attacked be considered antagonistic? That sounds like LAPD logic.

"The more I beat him, the more he antagonized me by throwing his body into my baton".

Yes, perhaps something nasty was said about you. I'm sure you want some sort of apology. But how is that going to occur when you return the attack?

When someone (or a group) is attacked, the very last thing that's thought of is rendering an apology. Those who've been attacked react in a defensive -- and sometimes offensive -- manner. I'm sure you can agree, given your situation.

The problem with all of this is that very little gets done when two entities are opposed to one another. One group will lash out and then other will respond. The cycle continues.

Why lower yourself to the level of those who originally insulted you? Why not attempt to discuss the issue in a polite fashion?

Yes, I said it, and no, i'm not going to apologize because of what I think of him. I'm not going to discuss it here either. Thats what OT is for

[Ling Ling 22]

Yes, perhaps something nasty was said about you. I'm sure you want some sort of apology. But how is that going to occur when you return the attack?

When someone (or a group) is attacked, the very last thing that's thought of is rendering an apology. Those who've been attacked react in a defensive -- and sometimes offensive -- manner. I'm sure you can agree, given your situation.

The problem with all of this is that very little gets done when two entities are opposed to one another. One group will lash out and then other will respond. The cycle continues.

Why lower yourself to the level of those who originally insulted you? Why not attempt to discuss the issue in a polite fashion?

Come on now DeadPoolX. Yes, that's great advice...but why didn't you offer that kind of "be the better man...why lower yourself" advice to the antagonizers before I even came into this thread? Funny how your first comment to me was to leave because I wasn't wanted here.

Again, until you can take your own medicine, please don't offer it to me.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Funny how your first comment to me was to leave because I wasn't wanted here.

Country clubs tend to be "kind and gentle" for the same reason this forum is

[Ling Ling 22]

Yes, I said it, and no, i'm not going to apologize because of what I think of him. I'm not going to discuss it here either. Thats what OT is for

Actually, that's not what OT or any part of this forum is for. I think I can speak for Ewok when I say that this forum in all her parts is intended to help people.

Insults should be the rare exception, not your motive or intention for posting in OT or elsewhere. Personal attacks are a violation of the TOS, not part of the VJ mission statement.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Yes, I said it, and no, i'm not going to apologize because of what I think of him. I'm not going to discuss it here either. Thats what OT is for

Actually, that's not what OT or any part of this forum is for. I think I can speak for Ewok when I say that this forum in all her parts is intended to help people.

Insults should be the rare exception, not your motive or intention for posting in OT or elsewhere. Personal attacks are a violation of the TOS, not part of the VJ mission statement.

The Canada forum is different Not anymore it ain't!

[DeadPoolX 9]

Yes, perhaps something nasty was said about you. I'm sure you want some sort of apology. But how is that going to occur when you return the attack?

When someone (or a group) is attacked, the very last thing that's thought of is rendering an apology. Those who've been attacked react in a defensive -- and sometimes offensive -- manner. I'm sure you can agree, given your situation.

The problem with all of this is that very little gets done when two entities are opposed to one another. One group will lash out and then other will respond. The cycle continues.

Why lower yourself to the level of those who originally insulted you? Why not attempt to discuss the issue in a polite fashion?

Come on now DeadPoolX. Yes, that's great advice...but why didn't you offer that kind of "be the better man...why lower yourself" advice to the antagonizers before I even came into this thread? Funny how your first comment to me was to leave because I wasn't wanted here.

Again, until you can take your own medicine, please don't offer it to me.

Well, this is a thread dedicated to venting annoying and irritating issues. It's hardly realistic to expect no one to complain about another individual on VJ. Until you entered this thread, there was no argument or dispute of any kind. It was simply a comment (and one not unusual to VJ at all).

I never told you to leave. I requested it, which is much different. I can't very well order you around. However, it's become increasingly obvious that sticking around in this forum has produced zero results.

All we've done is debate back and forth. What do we have to show for it? Some slight irritation? A disrupted thread? I seriously doubt you feel any better. If anything, I'd imagine you feel even angrier, given everything involved.

So why put yourself through this? It's a waste of time on everyone's part.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Ling Ling, don't listen to him. He's trying to kill you with kindness.

I'm going to stick around for a while. I suggest you do the same. They can ignore us all they want, but we'll always have each other

[Ling Ling 22]

Yes, perhaps something nasty was said about you. I'm sure you want some sort of apology. But how is that going to occur when you return the attack?

When someone (or a group) is attacked, the very last thing that's thought of is rendering an apology. Those who've been attacked react in a defensive -- and sometimes offensive -- manner. I'm sure you can agree, given your situation.

The problem with all of this is that very little gets done when two entities are opposed to one another. One group will lash out and then other will respond. The cycle continues.

Why lower yourself to the level of those who originally insulted you? Why not attempt to discuss the issue in a polite fashion?

Come on now DeadPoolX. Yes, that's great advice...but why didn't you offer that kind of "be the better man...why lower yourself" advice to the antagonizers before I even came into this thread? Funny how your first comment to me was to leave because I wasn't wanted here.

Again, until you can take your own medicine, please don't offer it to me.

Well, this is a thread dedicated to venting annoying and irritating issues. It's hardly realistic to expect no one to complain about another individual on VJ. Until you entered this thread, there was no argument or dispute of any kind. It was simply a comment (and one not unusual to VJ at all).

I never told you to leave. I requested it, which is much different. I can't very well order you around. However, it's become increasingly obvious that sticking around in this forum has produced zero results.

All we've done is debate back and forth. What do we have to show for it? Some slight irritation? A disrupted thread? I seriously doubt you feel any better. If anything, I'd imagine you feel even angrier, given everything involved.

So why put yourself through this? It's a waste of time on everyone's part.

Actually, I've made quite a few new friends. Besides meeting some new VJrs in these threads, several VJrs have sent me IMs.

So even though I just stopped in to see what kind of people stand idly by (some jumped in) when a coward makes a semi-hidden personal attack,

I'm getting great value out of the GOOD people that I'm meeting today.