Trying to figure out I-864, household, child support, and poverty income?

[coldwatersurf 5]

Bare with me as I am new at posting. VJ has been very helpful but I hit a snag and i am so confused. My husband who is the sponsor received NOA2. I live in Canada and excited to get the noa2. (yay!) But, I am the Organized one of the relationship and have been carefully figuring things out from the beginning so I can explain it to my husband w/o confusing him. Just trying to prepare the documents so everything flows smoothly. I hope someone can help me with these questions based on Affidavit of Support Form.

1. My husband is paying child support (child lives with mom). On Part 5, #21.d, does he fill the box for "if you have dependent children, enter the number here"?

2. If he fills out Part 5 #21.d, does that mean on Part 6, #24.b, he has to add him on the list?

3. If I am correct with the 2 above questions, does that mean his poverty income is for household of 3?

4. and i know i've seen it in other posts, but while I am on this topic, i just want to confirm that the income is based on "gross"?

Thanks for any help

ps. feel free to moving this to the right forum. I am a newbie.

[john_and_marlene 162]

Bare with me as I am new at posting. VJ has been very helpful but I hit a snag and i am so confused. My husband who is the sponsor received NOA2. I live in Canada and excited to get the noa2. (yay!) But, I am the Organized one of the relationship and have been carefully figuring things out from the beginning so I can explain it to my husband w/o confusing him. Just trying to prepare the documents so everything flows smoothly. I hope someone can help me with these questions based on Affidavit of Support Form.

1. My husband is paying child support (child lives with mom). On Part 5, #21.d, does he fill the box for "if you have dependent children, enter the number here"?

2. If he fills out Part 5 #21.d, does that mean on Part 6, #24.b, he has to add him on the list?

3. If I am correct with the 2 above questions, does that mean his poverty income is for household of 3?

4. and i know i've seen it in other posts, but while I am on this topic, i just want to confirm that the income is based on "gross"?

Thanks for any help

ps. feel free to moving this to the right forum. I am a newbie.

1. Yes

2. Yes

3. Yes

4. Yes

You are correct that the household size is 3.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Bare with me as I am new at posting. VJ has been very helpful but I hit a snag and i am so confused. My husband who is the sponsor received NOA2. I live in Canada and excited to get the noa2. (yay!) But, I am the Organized one of the relationship and have been carefully figuring things out from the beginning so I can explain it to my husband w/o confusing him. Just trying to prepare the documents so everything flows smoothly. I hope someone can help me with these questions based on Affidavit of Support Form.

1. My husband is paying child support (child lives with mom). On Part 5, #21.d, does he fill the box for "if you have dependent children, enter the number here"?

2. If he fills out Part 5 #21.d, does that mean on Part 6, #24.b, he has to add him on the list?

3. If I am correct with the 2 above questions, does that mean his poverty income is for household of 3?

4. and i know i've seen it in other posts, but while I am on this topic, i just want to confirm that the income is based on "gross"?

Thanks for any help

ps. feel free to moving this to the right forum. I am a newbie.

The answer is YES to all the above.

[coldwatersurf 5]

Thank you both. For the longest time I thought the incomes were based on net until i read some more posting. I was getting worried as the 2009 Poverty Guideline came out and incomes increased.

Heres the link for 2009 Poverty Guideline if anyone is interested: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-864P.pdf

Another question, its an easy one.

Does it matter if my husband gets the I-864 notorized at the bank? or does he have to go to a notary or an attorney?

I'm from Canada so I never knew the bank can certify documents b/c we do not do that here. Apparently you can in US. He is from Washington State.

[Bobby+Umit 161]

Thank you both. For the longest time I thought the incomes were based on net until i read some more posting. I was getting worried as the 2009 Poverty Guideline came out and incomes increased.

Heres the link for 2009 Poverty Guideline if anyone is interested: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-864P.pdf

Another question, its an easy one.

Does it matter if my husband gets the I-864 notorized at the bank? or does he have to go to a notary or an attorney?

I'm from Canada so I never knew the bank can certify documents b/c we do not do that here. Apparently you can in US. He is from Washington State.

I do not see in the instructions that it needs to be notorized.

[coldwatersurf 5]

I don't either. But I read on other postings that the Petitioner got the document notorized??? maybe someone else knows a definite answer to this.

[Bobby+Umit 161]

I don't either. But I read on other postings that the Petitioner got the document notorized??? maybe someone else knows a definite answer to this.

The instructions are definite.

You, of course, can get it notorized, to make it look "more" official, but it is not needed as per the instructions.

The signature of the sponsor is the only thing binding on that form (or the preparer if used).

It used to be that some forms were to be notorized, but they dropped that requirement.

You may want to check with the consulate/embassy handling your case what they require, as they follow their own rules sometimes.

[pushbrk 12,824]

I don't either. But I read on other postings that the Petitioner got the document notorized??? maybe someone else knows a definite answer to this.

Since the new version came out three years ago, you definitely do not notarize the I-864.

[coldwatersurf 5]

thanks! I really like VJ. Takes the stess level down.

Btw, I also read that you can pay AOS bill online but dont you have to send the affidavit with the bill?

[pushbrk 12,824]

thanks! I really like VJ. Takes the stess level down.

Btw, I also read that you can pay AOS bill online but dont you have to send the affidavit with the bill?

Your stress level will go down if you read, guides and instructions. See the VJ Wiki for the LingChe shortcuts for NVC.

[coldwatersurf 5]

thanks a lot. That guide is helpful

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

thanks! I really like VJ. Takes the stess level down.

Btw, I also read that you can pay AOS bill online but dont you have to send the affidavit with the bill?

If you pay online you would get a statement to send. I sent a check with the I-485, and sent it certified mail, I prefer to get all the evidence I can that they received it.

[coldwatersurf 5]

Another question. My husband was not working 3 years ago. Do I really need to send 3 previous tax returns? He only has the last 2 years. I know it says "send the most 3 years if we benefit from it" and on Part 25 on I-864, there are underlines to fill out the income for the last 3 years. So i just dont want to make a mistake and prolong the process. Can anyone give me an answer?