Manila Embassy Interview

[Pinay Wife 47]

Even if you're not a lawyer, "will" and "may" are two totally different things.

If you don't believe me, tell your boss you "may" be at work tomorrow.

More hair-splitting here? I'm glad my hair doesn't have "split-ends"

"MAY" is used because there are requirements to be fulfilled ~ capacity to marry and intent. If you pass the requirement, then NOA2 "WILL" be revalidated.

You want to be included in our list charlie brown?

[garya505 2]

You posted the email of the embassy, Gary. Here it is. That's why I was wondering why you would still want to send a request to extend the validity of petition when the embassy already assured you that it routinely extends NOA2. You only need to prove that you remain legally free to marry and intent to marry is still there. You can signify intent to marry either verbally during interview or in writing by submitting updated Affidavit of Intent to Marry.

You may receive a letter (sometimes referred to as packet 3) from the Embassy, but many do not. They didn't send my fiancee anything so I emailed them and they replied after a while. Here's the text of the email, which I understand is similar or the sane as what is in the letter if (you get it).

"We received the fiancé(e) visa petition (I-129F) from the State Department's National Visa Center (NVC) on October 17, 2006. No appointment has been scheduled as yet, but we have already included the applicant on the list of qualified applicants awaiting an interview schedule. Because of our heavy volume of fiancé(e) visa applications, the waiting time for a visa interview at present is approximately between 120 - 150 days from receipt of the petition in Manila.

We will inform the applicant of the interview date as soon as it is scheduled. We will mail the applicant an appointment packet with information and instructions to apply for a visa about 30 days before the scheduled interview. We will also send you a copy of the appointment letter.

We want to assure you that while an approved fiancé(e) petition is originally valid for four months from the date of its approval, a consular officer may revalidate it for an additional four months. This revalidation is routine as long as you and the beneficiary remain legally free to marry and continue to intend to do so within 90 days after the beneficiary is admitted into the United States.

A list of immigrant and fiancé(e) visa cases that have been scheduled for an interview is available at our web site at http://philippines.usembassy.gov/wwwh3023.html. You or the applicant may check the interview date at this Internet address, where appointments scheduled for the current month and the following month are listed according to case numbers. The list is updated in the middle of each month.

If the applicant would like to inquire further about the status of the visa case, she may contact the Embassy's Visa Call Center at telephone 1-909-101-7878. This number is for subscribers of PLDT and Smart telephone touchtone landlines with national and international distance dialing features (NDD or IDD access). Callers in the USA can contact the Call Center at 1-888-877-9888. The Call Center is open Monday through Friday, from 8:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. (Manila time). There is a fee assessed to callers by the Call Center for its services"

To me, routine doesn't mean "always", and the email I received (we never got a letter) doesn't state how they determine if we still intend to marry. Anyway, I sent a letter stating that I and my fiancee "remain legally free to marry and continue to intend to do so within 90 days after the beneficiary is admitted into the United States". Maybe they will file it and maybe they will just laugh and throw it away.

[Pinay Wife 47]

I tend to follow this Manila thread as a silent participant, but I truly have benefited from the wonderful information and sharing that takes place here. I particularly would like to give kudos to you, PW, for maintaining the list (a thankless job) and to Uling (for a wonderful signature chaulked full of invaluable info). I too hope the thread stays positive.

Hey 2 Hearts! Good to hear from you. And thank you for your kind words. Yup, Uling is the man! He keeps coming back here to continue to update his wonderful signature. I guess this thread is so irresistible (like a Filipina woman hehe) that the "veterans" find it hard to stay away.

Updating timeline of 2Hearts. Any updates from our other members? Treynroxy, TimR? Do we hear an approval? DaveandLirio, Neonspark, and lovebug are in the "hot seat" now. Good luck!

Legend:

OK - Visa approved

AR - Admin Review/Add'l Docs Required

ME - Military Expedite

AO - Age-Out (Derivative approaching age 21)

Name.................NOA2.....MNL REC’D..PACKET...INTERVIEW..MNL CASE#..STATUS..DELIVERED/#OF DAYS/PLACE DLVRD

K1 LIST

01..louchiw.........02-xx-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..07-28-06..2006-xxxxxx..AR..previous AOS

02..timmaricel......04-07-06..09-21-06..10-20-06..12-04-06..2006-601xxx..OK

03..Madison Man.....09-01-06..09-20-06..xx-xx-xx..12-04-06..2006-601xxx..OK..Dec 12/06 days/Manila

04..zethris.........04-13-06..09-20-06..xx-xx-xx..12-04-06..2006-60xxxx..OK..Dec 12/08 days/???

05..annie19.........05-09-06..05-22-06..xx-xx-xx..09-21-06..2006-635xxx..AR..Divorce decree

06..BJZags..........08-04-06..08-17-06..10-20-06..12-05-06..2006-720xxx..OK..Dec 28/23 days/Makati

07..tamara..........07-31-06..08-24-06..10-26-06..12-11-06..2006-723xxx..OK..Dec 14/03 days/Kalookan

08..shimmy..........08-01-06..08-23-06..10-20-06..12-11-06..2006-723xxx..OK..Dec 21/10 days/Davao

09..FMerz...........08-09-06..08-23-06..xx-xx-xx..12-12-06..2006-723xxx..OK..Dec 13/01 day/Picked up

10..roymcn3rd.......07-31-06..08-23-06..10-25-06..12-13-06..2006-723xxx..OK..Dec 20/07 days/Davao

11..mae_jim.........08-03-06..08-23-06..10-21-06..12-18-06..2006-728xxx..OK..Dec 20/02 days/Picked up

12..Elizabeth.......08-15-06..08-21-06..10-21-06..12-21-06..2006-729xxx..OK..Dec 28/07 days/Makati

13..treynroxy.......08-03-06..08-25-06..11-29-06..01-11-07..2006-736xxx

14..TimR............08-10-06..09-06-06..11-28-06..01-11-07..2006-736xxx

15..daveandlirio....08-03-06..08-28-06..xx-xx-xx..01-12-07..2006-737xxx

16..lovebug.........08-12-06..08-29-06..11-29-06..01-12-07..2006-737xxx

17..neonspark.......08-23-06..xx-xx-xx..11-28-06..01-12-07..2006-737xxx

18..kirkandjenny....08-18-06..09-26-06..11-29-06..01-19-07..2006-743xxx

19..Glenn&Rosemarie.08-29-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..01-25-07..2006-750xxx

20. roundbo.........09-11-06..09-23-06..xx-xx-xx..01-30-07..2006-756xxx

21..ronmay..........08-28-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..12-27-06..2006-757xxx..OK..Jan 03/07 days/Cagayan de Oro

22..Robhankins......09-01-06..09-22-06..xx-xx-xx..12-28-06..2006-761xxx..Interview postponed

23..ellmoi..........09-17-06..09-26-06..xx-xx-xx..12-28-06..2006-762xxx..OK

24..jo&john.........08-30-06..10-06-06..PICKED UP.10-18-06..2006-764xxx..OK-AO..Oct 25/07 days/Manila

25..RiggerAF........09-04-06..10-02-06..12-14-06..01-18-07..2006-764xxx

26..sway............09-05-06..10-30-06..xx-xx-xx..01-19-07..2006-764xxx

27..edz2006.........09-05-06..10-04-06..12-14-06..01-23-07..2006-764xxx

28..vic&el4ever.....09-07-06..09-27-06..01-06-07..02-01-07..2006-768xxx

29..davidjack.......09-05-06..10-04-06..xx-xx-xx..02-02-07..2006-770xxx

30..binow...........09-20-06..10-02-06..01-04-07..02-02-07..2006-770xxx

31..lebby...........09-07-06..10-03-06..12-21-06..02-05-07..2006-772xxx

32..arch_n_cel......09-11-06..10-18-06..12-29-06..02-02-07..2006-772xxx

33..sbqwolf1........09-11-06..10-18-06..12-22-06..02-05-07..2006-772xxx

34..lawrencejeramie.09-11-06..10-17-06..12-23-06..02-06-07..2006-775xxx

35..JelloShotGirl...09-29-06..10-13-06..12-22-06..02-08-07..2006-776xxx

36..Richard&Maria...09-05-06..10-06-06..12-21-06..02-13-07..2006-779xxx

37..garya505........09-18-06..10-17-06..12-29-06..02-13-07..2006-779xxx

38..Burrito.........09-21-06..10-18-06..12-23-06..02-14-07..2006-783xxx

39..Iniibig ko......09-07-06..10-15-06..12-27-06..02-15-07..2006-783xxx

40..Thersch.........09-19-06..10-23-06..12-22-06..02-15-07..2006-783xxx

41..Ken_Maria.......09-18-06..10-10-06..12-26-06..02-15-07..2006-783xxx

42..mydestiny.......09-21-06..10-23-06..xx-xx-xx..02-23-07..2006-783xxx

43..Birdysboy.......09-11-06..10-23-06..01-05-07..02-26-07..2006-786xxx

44..gobdogman.......09-07-06..10-20-06..xx-xx-xx..02-16-07..2006-789xxx

45..Steve-n-Ana.....09-28-06..10-25-06..12-29-06..02-16-07..2006-789xxx

46..jamrok..........09-29-06..10-25-06..xx-xx-xx..11-24-06..2006-789xxx..AO..AR (Cenomar)

47..Erichu..........10-11-06..10-23-06..12-23-06..02-16-07..2006-789xxx

48..Paulily.........09-25-06..10-20-06..12-22-06..02-16-07..2006-792xxx

49..felnfrank.......10-12-06..10-23-06..12-22-06..02-16-07..2006-792xxx

50..bangus delight..10-05-06..10-20-06..12-22-06..02-16-07..2006-792xxx

51..StevenandJinky..10-17-06..11-02-06..01-02-07..02-16-07..2006-793xxx

52..oakwell.........10-16-06..11-06-06..xx-xx-xx..02-20-07..2006-796xxx

53..Mike_and_Jennie.10-05-06..10-30-06..12-21-06..02-20-07..2006-799xxx

54..2Hearts.........10-18-06..11-03-06..PICK UP...02-20-07..2006-800xxx

55..patrick808......10-18-06..10-30-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2006-800xxx..

56..Joone745........10-20-06..11-01-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2006-800xxx..

57..kar3n...........10-16-06..11-14-06..12-21-06..02-21-07..2006-805xxx

58..macky...........10-05-06..11-22-06..12-12-06..02-22-07..2006-813xxx

59..Wes.............11-02-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2006-818xxx

60..49bstreet.......09-29-06..11-21-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2006-820xxx

61..maylet29........10-27-06..11-21-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2006-820xxx

62..kismet..........11-02-06..11-20-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2006-820xxx

63..iya.............11-02-06..xx-xx-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2006-820xxx

64..Alanlvsjudy.....11-06-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2006-824xxx

65..mpgirl..........11-21-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2006-834xxx

66..DeaniWait.......11-28-06..12-19-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2006-842xxx

67..DaveandFleur....10-17-06..12-19-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2006-845xxx

68..PatientlyWait...12-04-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2006-852xxx

69..Kayz............12-14-06..12-27-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2006-854xxx

K3 LIST

01..K3 IR...........07-25-06..xx-xx-xx..09-20-06..11-13-06..2006-xxxxxx..OK..Nov 20/07 days/San Juan MM

02..cybernutguy.....09-22-06..10-12-06..xx-xx-xx..11-28-06..2006-xxxxxx..OK..Dec 15/17 days/Makati (with AR)

03..shadowladylx....08-02-06..08-14-06..xx-xx-xx..12-05-06..2006-721xxx..OK..Dec 12/07 days/Quezon City

04..Amerikano.......10-03-06..10-19-06..01-05-07..02-13-07..2006-783xxx

05..dj2004..........11-16-06..12-12-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2006-839xxx

IR-1/CR-1

Name.................NOA2.....CASE CMPLT..PACKET..INTERVIEW...MNL CASE#..STATUS

01..Biancashey......03-09-06..09-01-06..xx-xx-xx..01-19-07..2006-576xxx

02..JunCel..........05-15-06..08-24-06..12-07-06..01-05-07..2006-646xxx..OK..Waiting for visa delivery

03..facechelle......05-31-06..09-25-06..xx-xx-xx..01-30-07..2006-659xxx

04..DaveHorton......07-25-06..08-25-06..10-24-06..12-04-06..2006-208xxx..OK

05..Jazzy...........08-03-06..10-17-06..12-30-06..02-08-07..2006-729xxx

06..w1n78...........09-05-06..11-16-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2006-764xxx

07..soulm8z0928.....09-06-06..11-16-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2006-76xxxx

08..M&M.............09-07-06..11-15-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2006-765xxx

09..Amerikano.......09-13-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2006-772xxx

10..dims1...........09-20-06..12-01-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2006-775xxx

11..StarProg........12-28-06..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..xx-xx-xx..2007-xxxxxx

[Pinay Wife 47]

To me, routine doesn't mean "always", and the email I received (we never got a letter) doesn't state how they determine if we still intend to marry. Anyway, I sent a letter stating that I and my fiancee "remain legally free to marry and continue to intend to do so within 90 days after the beneficiary is admitted into the United States". Maybe they will file it and maybe they will just laugh and throw it away.

Intent can be determined at time of interview or if they have doubts, they will request petitioner/beneficiary to send a statement of their intent to marry just like what they did to that lady from another country. Maybe, the consulate in that part of the world is not very busy so they have plenty of time in their hands to do the math for NOA2 validity

At any rate, if sending the letter made you feel comfortable, I'm with you on that

[jazzy 0]

And to put to rest "routine" and "automatic". Here's what the dictionary says:

ROUTINE ~ a regular course of procedure; habitual or mechanical performance of an established procedure

AUTOMATIC ~ largely or wholly involuntary, especially reflex; acting or done spontaneously or unconsciously

Since we are talking about a procedure here that requires conscious effort and not an involuntary action done spontaneously, "routine" would be the appropriate word to use. Plus of course, it's the word used by the embassy. The only requirement for NOA2 to be revalidated is for one to remain legally free to marry and that the intent is there. Request to revalidate is not a requirement.

Now, can we bury this issue already and start anew? Please? Pretty Pretty Woman Please?

PW,

I apologize in advance for this as I grow tired of this discussion as well. As everyone here seems to agree with me with a couple exceptions. I just wanted to point out that the dictionary also goes on to define AUTOMATIC: Having a mechanism by which certain operations are performed under predetermined conditions. The predetermined conditions here are that the embassy is backed up and they know they will run past the 4 month period. It is both routine and automatic.

Again I apologize for mentioning this yet again...its just that certain people here would unnecessarily worry others about this revalidation thing when it is totally unnecessary. Its the last i'll say on the matter.

We have our interview (for the second time) coming up in few weeks and thats enough to worry about. We are kind of expecting an AR as my step daughter has a late registratin BC...we'll hope for the best....but plan for the worst.

PW...Jasmin is looking forward to getting together with you when she gets to manila...thanks for that...

Jazzy

[one...two...tree 2,762]

And to put to rest "routine" and "automatic". Here's what the dictionary says:

ROUTINE ~ a regular course of procedure; habitual or mechanical performance of an established procedure

AUTOMATIC ~ largely or wholly involuntary, especially reflex; acting or done spontaneously or unconsciously

Since we are talking about a procedure here that requires conscious effort and not an involuntary action done spontaneously, "routine" would be the appropriate word to use. Plus of course, it's the word used by the embassy. The only requirement for NOA2 to be revalidated is for one to remain legally free to marry and that the intent is there. Request to revalidate is not a requirement.

Now, can we bury this issue already and start anew? Please? Pretty Pretty Woman Please?

I second that!

[Sheriff Uling 3]

Phil-Am Families...

I need some input to add more information to the Phil-Am K1 Information that we have assembled, but I want to have just the information that we supplied for our approval. These are the frequently asked questions that I have received about the DS-156 and I-134 forms.

Well, check this out and let me know...

NOTE: It is my assessment that all of the questions below are actually designed for the other nonimmigrant categories.

Most frequently asked questions on the DS-156 Nonimmigrant Visa Application:

Question # 26

Q. How long do you intend to stay in the US?

A. (We answered…) INDIFINITELY

Question # 27

Q. What is the purpose of your trip?

A. (We answered…) To marry [petitioner’s full name], fiancé(e), via a K1 Fiancée Visa with 90 day of arriving into the United States.

Question # 32

Q. Do you intend to Work in the US? (check box) Yes (check box) No

A. (We checked... NO and wrote) NONE (in the available space below)

Question # 33

Q. Do you intend to Study in the US? (check box) Yes (check box) No

A. (We checked… NO and wrote) NONE (in the available space below)

Most frequently asked question on the I-134 Affidavit of Support form:

Question # 11

Q. That I (check box) intend (check box) do not intend to make specific contributions to the support of the person(s) named in item #3.

A: (We checked intend and wrote…) This affidavit of support accompanies a K1 Fiancée Visa application. (in the space below)

Salamat....

Sheriff Uling

[Sheriff Uling 3]

Garya505 - Thanks a bunch... It's a honor to be able to give back in even a small way for all the knowledge and support that we have received here. I feel really good knowing that others actually find the information useful and worthwhile.

[Sheriff Uling 3]

Sorry for the typo below...

Question # 27

Q. What is the purpose of your trip?

A. (We answered…) To marry [petitioner’s full name], fiancé(e), via a K1 Fiancée Visa within 90 days of arriving into the United States.

Edited January 12, 2007 by Sheriff Uling

[Pinay Wife 47]

I have questions for the USC. When do you start filing for 2006 ITR in the US? For those going to February interview, did you file your ITR early so your fiancee can present a 2006 ITR? Thanks.

Edited January 12, 2007 by PatientlyWaiting

[sunandmoon 450]

Phil-Am Families...

I need some input to add more information to the Phil-Am K1 Information that we have assembled, but I want to have just the information that we supplied for our approval. These are the frequently asked questions that I have received about the DS-156 and I-134 forms.

Well, check this out and let me know...

NOTE: It is my assessment that all of the questions below are actually designed for the other nonimmigrant categories.

Most frequently asked questions on the DS-156 Nonimmigrant Visa Application:

Question # 26

Q. How long do you intend to stay in the US?

A. (We answered…) INDIFINITELY

Question # 27

Q. What is the purpose of your trip?

A. (We answered…) To marry [petitioner’s full name], fiancé(e), via a K1 Fiancée Visa with 90 day of arriving into the United States.

Question # 32

Q. Do you intend to Work in the US? (check box) Yes (check box) No

A. (We checked... NO and wrote) NONE (in the available space below)

Question # 33

Q. Do you intend to Study in the US? (check box) Yes (check box) No

A. (We checked… NO and wrote) NONE (in the available space below)

Most frequently asked question on the I-134 Affidavit of Support form:

Question # 11

Q. That I (check box) intend (check box) do not intend to make specific contributions to the support of the person(s) named in item #3.

A: (We checked intend and wrote…) This affidavit of support accompanies a K1 Fiancée Visa application. (in the space below)

Salamat....

Sheriff Uling

those are acceptable answers for the K-1 Visa. I agree some of the questions on the DS forms really aren't relevant to the K-1 Visa. there are no right or wrong answers to some of the questions. with that in mind, I wont suggest other answers so not to get another debate started.

Edited January 12, 2007 by roymcn3rd

[sunandmoon 450]

I have questions for the USC. When do you start filing for 2006 ITR in the US? For those going to February interview, did you file your ITR early so your fiancee can present a 2006 ITR? Thanks.

Tax returns have to be filed by April 15th. even if Tax return hasn't been filed. one could submit a W-2 for 2006. if a W-2 not available, the paycheck stub from the last payroll period in 2006 should have the cumulative gross income for 2006.

Edited January 12, 2007 by roymcn3rd

[sillygirl 0]

I have questions for the USC. When do you start filing for 2006 ITR in the US? For those going to February interview, did you file your ITR early so your fiancee can present a 2006 ITR? Thanks.

Not a USC but I asked my hubby...

You can file anytime from Jan. 1, 2007 to April 15 without filing for an extension. If you file for an extension, you have till Aug. 15. Then if you file for a second extension, you have till Oct. 15.

[Pinay Wife 47]

Thank you Roy and sillygirl for the response. Much appreciated.

[trey_n_roxy 0]

Hi PW,

Update my profile..Im APPROVED same with TimR..Thanks GOD and VJ's where i got some ideas for the interview..And please also update lovebug timelime she approved today, she texted me...

Cheer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

trey_n_roxy