Sorry that this is a bit of a dumb question...

[Mocana87 0]

I was trying to find out from our Embassy's website [bucharest, Romania] whether or not it is necessary to translate official documents [because i am finding conflicting opinions and experiences-no hard feelings ] And I read this:

Immigrant Visas

Fiancé(e) Visas

The fiancé(e) (K1) visa allows a foreign citizen to enter the United States in order to marry a U.S. citizen. After the marriage takes place, the applicant must apply to change status directly with the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS).

To qualify for a K1 visa, the following criteria must be met:

* one party is a U.S. Citizen;

* both parties are legally free to marry; and

* both parties intend to marry within 90 days of the fiancé(e) entering the United States on the fiancé(e) visa.

For more information about fiancé(e) visas, please visit the Non-immigrant Visa for a Fiancé(e) page.

**** So which is it? Is it a immigrant visa or a non-immigrant visa?

I want to know because the "Non-immigrant visa for a fiance" page says that official translations are not required....but it doesnt say specifically Fiance visas, it just says Non-immigrant... you see my dilemma?

Sorry if this is a pain! Thanks for the help!

[sara..... 371]

its suppose to be considered a non immigrant visa but seems like the service centers and the embassy's are treating about the same as immigrant

u still have to have ur documents translated as best i know anyways................

sara

Edited February 11, 2009 by estadia

[happywifeymom 4]

I was trying to find out from our Embassy's website [bucharest, Romania] whether or not it is necessary to translate official documents [because i am finding conflicting opinions and experiences-no hard feelings ] And I read this:

Immigrant Visas

Fiancé(e) Visas

The fiancé(e) (K1) visa allows a foreign citizen to enter the United States in order to marry a U.S. citizen. After the marriage takes place, the applicant must apply to change status directly with the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS).

To qualify for a K1 visa, the following criteria must be met:

* one party is a U.S. Citizen;

* both parties are legally free to marry; and

* both parties intend to marry within 90 days of the fiancé(e) entering the United States on the fiancé(e) visa.

For more information about fiancé(e) visas, please visit the Non-immigrant Visa for a Fiancé(e) page.

**** So which is it? Is it a immigrant visa or a non-immigrant visa?

I want to know because the "Non-immigrant visa for a fiance" page says that official translations are not required....but it doesnt say specifically Fiance visas, it just says Non-immigrant... you see my dilemma?

Sorry if this is a pain! Thanks for the help!

K1 visa holders are non -immigrants.

[Slightly Bonkers 0]

"K1 visa holders are non -immigrants."

But most embassies and consulates deal with them as immigrant visas ie. You'll be transferred to that department, have to follow that protocol etc.

[pushbrk 12,822]

"K1 visa holders are non -immigrants."

But most embassies and consulates deal with them as immigrant visas ie. You'll be transferred to that department, have to follow that protocol etc.

K1 is a non-immigrant visa with immigrant intent and a direct path to immigrating. As such they are dealt with and issued by Consular Immigrant Visa (IV) Units. Some Consulate's websites list their requirments for fiance(e) visas under non-immigrant and other under immigrant but it's always the IV unit you deal with for a K1 or K2 visa.

[Badgerella 5]

Everything refers to it as a non-immigrant. The USEM in Croatia treats K1s as immigrant visas, though.

[cris.luiza 0]

I was trying to find out from our Embassy's website [bucharest, Romania] whether or not it is necessary to translate official documents [because i am finding conflicting opinions and experiences-no hard feelings ] And I read this:

Immigrant Visas

Fiancé(e) Visas

The fiancé(e) (K1) visa allows a foreign citizen to enter the United States in order to marry a U.S. citizen. After the marriage takes place, the applicant must apply to change status directly with the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS).

To qualify for a K1 visa, the following criteria must be met:

* one party is a U.S. Citizen;

* both parties are legally free to marry; and

* both parties intend to marry within 90 days of the fiancé(e) entering the United States on the fiancé(e) visa.

For more information about fiancé(e) visas, please visit the Non-immigrant Visa for a Fiancé(e) page.

**** So which is it? Is it a immigrant visa or a non-immigrant visa?

I want to know because the "Non-immigrant visa for a fiance" page says that official translations are not required....but it doesnt say specifically Fiance visas, it just says Non-immigrant... you see my dilemma?

Sorry if this is a pain! Thanks for the help!

Hi!

What specific documents are you talking about? If it's the birth certificate and the marriage certificate; the marriage certificate is new so it's in English already (it's trilingual (Romanian, English, French)) and the birth certificate if you have the old one I would suggest to translate and legalize it, if you have the new one, same as the marriage certificate... no need.

Good luck!

[Jasman0717 9]

According to the embassy website for the philippines, a K-1 visa is a nonimmigration visa.

[Badgerella 5]

According to the embassy website for the philippines, a K-1 visa is a nonimmigration visa.

It's a nonimmigrant visa everywhere. It's just that the most consulates treat it as immigrant (sections that deal with it, windows you go to, etc.).

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Pushbrk explained it most clearly - it is a non-immigrant visa - as is the K-3 - with immigrant intent. It gives you the right to enter and be in the US for a specified period of time. The K-1 also has a specific expectation -marriage during the validity of the entry visa (I-94). K-1 and K-3 recipients are also expected to apply for immigrant status (Adjustment of Status -AOS - from non-immigrant to immigrant) preferably they are still in legal status. If they don't apply they lose their legal status in the US and are open to deportation or removal. Once they are approved for AOS they are considered immigrants.

[Jasman0717 9]

According to the embassy website for the philippines, a K-1 visa is a nonimmigration visa.

It's a nonimmigrant visa everywhere. It's just that the most consulates treat it as immigrant (sections that deal with it, windows you go to, etc.).

A comment was made that embassies were treating them differently, I think they have always been treated as nonimmigration visas

[pushbrk 12,822]

According to the embassy website for the philippines, a K-1 visa is a nonimmigration visa.

It's a nonimmigrant visa everywhere. It's just that the most consulates treat it as immigrant (sections that deal with it, windows you go to, etc.).

A comment was made that embassies were treating them differently, I think they have always been treated as nonimmigration visas

"Treated as" is confusing language. Consular officers know exactly what K visas are. They are dealt with in the Immigrant Visa Units because the visa applicants plan to avail themselves of the allowed "immigrant intent" that comes with the visas. K visas are "treated as" non-immigrant visas with immigrant intent. What varies is whether you'll find information about them on the non-immigrant or immigrant visa pages on a give Consulate's website.

The simple answer is that K visas are non-immigrant. However, we are wise to understand why the question is asked and given enough information to "inform" as needed, rather than give a non-informative accurate direct answer to the question.

Edited February 17, 2009 by pushbrk

[Badgerella 5]

So I would assume that either the COs in Croatia do not know what those visas are (doubt it), or that 'treated as' is allowed to be used without the quotation marks. It's exactly what you'll hear from the Embassy employees here in Croatia. I'd at least like to believe they know what they are supposed to be saying.

[pushbrk 12,822]

So I would assume that either the COs in Croatia do not know what those visas are (doubt it), or that 'treated as' is allowed to be used without the quotation marks. It's exactly what you'll hear from the Embassy employees here in Croatia. I'd at least like to believe they know what they are supposed to be saying.

Humans sometimes use vague language when answering questions. You'll see it anywhere, and anytime. A K visa is what it is.

[Badgerella 5]

So I would assume that either the COs in Croatia do not know what those visas are (doubt it), or that 'treated as' is allowed to be used without the quotation marks. It's exactly what you'll hear from the Embassy employees here in Croatia. I'd at least like to believe they know what they are supposed to be saying.

Humans sometimes use vague language when answering questions. You'll see it anywhere, and anytime. A K visa is what it is.

I have to admit it was not vague at all. At the very worst, it was simplified, as in - told in a language someone like me/another random person involved in this process would easily understand. When I needed my first batch of information, I contacted the nonimmigrant visa section here in Croatia. Because I knew this visa was nonimmigrant. And what was the first thing they told me? To contact the immigrant visa section because the said visa is being treated as immigrant and that from now on, I'll be dealing with them. Fair enough. All clear, fine and dandy.

I see absolutely no problems with the term 'treated as' used in this instance. It explains everything we need to know. Sure, it's a nonimmigrant visa. But it's being treated as an immigrant one, isn't it? It is, obviously - so far, I've not contacted anyone, or done any single thing one has to do when applying for a 'regular' nonimmigrant visa (except for having my pictures taken). If even the authorities outright say that, why not just accept it that way?