Moving to canada

[zyggy 9]

Why not work on contract. My wife works on Contract for her old company she left in Canada. That way the company just writes out a check and writes it off as a business expense.. no further tax reporting required. If you want to keep your old benefits and whatnot.. fawgett about it.

No further tax reporting? That sounds to me like that is (in the US at least) self-employment/income, and must be reported (if required to file) on a schedule C and a schedule SE (if over $400). Not sure about the Canadian tax laws.

Except when its under 80k and its excluded...

And a Schedule SE is only for those within the US (you are not liable for self-employment taxes if you are not resident in the US).. Income earned outside the US is merely considered other income...

Schedules are only required for domestic income... Not for foreign income...

Edited June 8, 2006 by zyggy

[clloyd 0]

Why not work on contract. My wife works on Contract for her old company she left in Canada. That way the company just writes out a check and writes it off as a business expense.. no further tax reporting required. If you want to keep your old benefits and whatnot.. fawgett about it.

No further tax reporting? That sounds to me like that is (in the US at least) self-employment/income, and must be reported (if required to file) on a schedule C and a schedule SE (if over $400). Not sure about the Canadian tax laws.

Except when its under 80k and its excluded...

And a Schedule SE is only for those within the US (you are not liable for self-employment taxes if you are not resident in the US).. Income earned outside the US is merely considered other income...

Schedules are only required for domestic income... Not for foreign income...

What was said in the origional quote was "...her old company she left in Canada." As far as I understand, his wife is currently in the US, and have infered that she is being paid to do work while in the US. So therefore, it is domestic income.

[Jersey Girl 2]

Help us understand, cruedog85. You're a USC who applied for a K3. That's what your profile says.

But if you're marrying a Canadian later this month, you could only be considering a K3. Right? And you want to know the tax implications of you working out of Toronto for a U.S. company.

It sounds like you're thinking of hanging out in Toronto (as a tourist) and telecommuting until the K3 is approved. Is that your plan?

[cruedog85 0]

Help us understand, cruedog85. You're a USC who applied for a K3. That's what your profile says.

But if you're marrying a Canadian later this month, you could only be considering a K3. Right? And you want to know the tax implications of you working out of Toronto for a U.S. company.

It sounds like you're thinking of hanging out in Toronto (as a tourist) and telecommuting until the K3 is approved. Is that your plan?

ok the situation is this. she was going to come down to massachusetts and live. she had a job, we looked at house and so on. then her ex husband decided "i want to fight you in court so you cant live with our daughter." so now she has to stay until that is done. so istead of keep up this long distance thing i have asked my employer (boston insurance comapny) if i could work from home but in toronto. they are thinking about it, but wanted to know if they would be on the hook for anything special since i will be a canadian resident. i have given them 2 options, one being to keep me as is or contract me. these 2 choices they are thinking on. for my job i need a phone, fax and computer and thats it, i could be in australia and do my job. my company just wanted to make sure i wasnt making life difficult for them legally

[cruedog85 0]

Help us understand, cruedog85. You're a USC who applied for a K3. That's what your profile says.

But if you're marrying a Canadian later this month, you could only be considering a K3. Right? And you want to know the tax implications of you working out of Toronto for a U.S. company.

It sounds like you're thinking of hanging out in Toronto (as a tourist) and telecommuting until the K3 is approved. Is that your plan?

ok the situation is this. she "was" going to come down to massachusetts and live. she had a job, we looked at house and so on. then her ex husband decided "i want to fight you in court so you cant leave with our daughter." so now she has to stay until that is done. so instead of keeping up this long distance thing, i have asked my employer (boston insurance comapny) if i could work from home but in toronto. they are thinking about it, but wanted to know if they would be on the hook for anything special since i will be a canadian resident. i have given them 2 options, one being to keep me as is or contract me. these 2 choices they are thinking on. for my job i need a phone, fax and computer and thats it, i could be in australia and do my job. my company just wanted to make sure i wasnt making life difficult for them legally

So yes she lives in toronto and i live in boston. just wanted to add that

[Jersey Girl 2]

The thing is, you can't just take up residence in a foreign country without some kind of status. Do you plan to become a Landed Immigrant? Is there some kind of Work Visa for Canada? The fact that your employer is in Boston is a red herring. If you live in Canada legally, and have income there (from anywhere) you'll be on the hook for Canadian as well as U.S. taxes.

Or did you plan to do all this under the table? Maintain your Boston home and address, have your salary done by direct deposit to a U.S. bank, and somehow transfer it to Canada? Then you're at risk for immigration fraud, and possibly tax sanctions, and so is your employer.

It could be a long time before your girlfriend's affairs are settled. Do you plan to camp out in Toronto for months or years? And possibly make things worse for her just by your presence?

There's a Canadian girl here in Jersey who married a Yank and had two kids. Her divorce stipulates that she cannot move back to Canada with her teen-age boys until they're 18. She's homesick and miserable. Especially since her kids grew up in the States and don't want to move to Canada.

I say this because you're caught in a custody battle. You're miles away from a K3. When it's possible for her to marry again, she may not be able to take her daughter away from Toronto. That could be a deal breaker for your relationship.

Protect what you have, and what you have to offer. Stay in Boston, work hard, save your pennies, get yourself an Air Canada Aeroplan account, and take lots of trips to T.O. Visit, but don't make any moves. Let her legal affairs run their course and her wounds heal before you make big plans.

Or, are you willing to pull up stakes, move to another country, become a legal permnanent resident, and take on all the tax headaches? That's a pretty big decision when your girlfriend is still embroiled in a nasty battle with her ex.

Edited June 9, 2006 by Jersey Girl

[cruedog85 0]

The thing is, you can't just take up residence in a foreign country without some kind of status. Do you plan to become a Landed Immigrant? Is there some kind of Work Visa for Canada? The fact that your employer is in Boston is a red herring. If you live in Canada legally, and have income there (from anywhere) you'll be on the hook for Canadian as well as U.S. taxes.

Or did you plan to do all this under the table? Maintain your Boston home and address, have your salary done by direct deposit to a U.S. bank, and somehow transfer it to Canada? Then you're at risk for immigration fraud, and possibly tax sanctions, and so is your employer.

It could be a long time before your girlfriend's affairs are settled. Do you plan to camp out in Toronto for months or years? And possibly make things worse for her just by your presence?

There's a Canadian girl here in Jersey who married a Yank and had two kids. Her divorce stipulates that she cannot move back to Canada with her teen-age boys until they're 18. She's homesick and miserable. Especially since her kids grew up in the States and don't want to move to Canada.

I say this because you're caught in a custody battle. You're miles away from a K3. When it's possible for her to marry again, she may not be able to take her daughter away from Toronto. That could be a deal breaker for your relationship.

Protect what you have, and what you have to offer. Stay in Boston, work hard, save your pennies, get yourself an Air Canada Aeroplan account, and take lots of trips to T.O. Visit, but don't make any moves. Let her legal affairs run their course and her wounds heal before you make big plans.

Or, are you willing to pull up stakes, move to another country, become a legal permnanent resident, and take on all the tax headaches? That's a pretty big decision when your girlfriend is still embroiled in a nasty battle with her ex.

ohh yeah basically my plan is to move up once the company says yes and apply for landed status since you can do that from inside canada. I will stay until the case is resolved. if we have to stay, its ok because her and her husband have a written agreement that the daughter can choose at age 8 which is 5 years from now. so thats my longest wait really. so no im not going to do anything shadey, if my company says no then i will still proceed with visa (marriage) and then apply for a job - living in toronto isnt really a big deal for me for 1-5 years. i know i will be filing taxes in both countries, fine as well. ill get the appropriate tax attorney. We have done this log distance thing for 2 years and its time to step up and since her ex changed his mind ill have to go there for a bit which is ok by me - i love the girl what can i say

[Jersey Girl 2]

So you're the immigrant! At least for now. Once you're married and established in Toronto, you might apply for DCF and move back to Boston. Then she'll be the immigrant.

Her daughter is the wildcard. I can't imagine a court making it legal for an 8-year-old to decide who she wants to live with. This may be just a verbal understanding between the parents that goes away in the upcoming court battle. You could have a very long stay in Canada if the court makes it impossible to take the child out of the country or even out of the Toronto area until she's 18. Better add 15 years to your Toronto timeframe.

In any case, you're not a K3 customer. Once you've established residency in Canada, you might try DCF.

[cruedog85 0]

So you're the immigrant! At least for now. Once you're married and established in Toronto, you might apply for DCF and move back to Boston. Then she'll be the immigrant.

Her daughter is the wildcard. I can't imagine a court making it legal for an 8-year-old to decide who she wants to live with. This may be just a verbal understanding between the parents that goes away in the upcoming court battle. You could have a very long stay in Canada if the court makes it impossible to take the child out of the country or even out of the Toronto area until she's 18. Better add 15 years to your Toronto timeframe.

In any case, you're not a K3 customer. Once you've established residency in Canada, you might try DCF.

thank you for all the help everyone! yeah it will be interesting up there for sure! whats a dcf? Actually their agreement about the daughter is written in the divorce agreement that they both agreed at 8 she can pick and the judge already sign off on it.....where the problem lays is in that agreement she agreed to "dad can see daughter every other weekend"and since from boston that really isnt realistic, she needs his permission which now he wont give. so off to the courts we go...she has some bonus cards to play as well as she gave him a HUGE break in that divorce, another story. but being an attorney myself i have read alot of ontario case law on relocation and he is going to have a hard time keeping her there once we are married and have a child ourselves. but he has a chance none the less...luckily for me i have had a few cases in toronto over the past 5 years that i was able to get my hands on some really good attorneys up there....but yes what is dcf?

[Reba 2]

Direct Consular Filing. Means that once you have residency status in Canada, you can file for an immigrant visa for your wife and her child directly at the US consulate in Canada, rather than having to go thru one of the service centres in the US.

[zyggy 9]

The thing is, you can't just take up residence in a foreign country without some kind of status. Do you plan to become a Landed Immigrant? Is there some kind of Work Visa for Canada? The fact that your employer is in Boston is a red herring. If you live in Canada legally, and have income there (from anywhere) you'll be on the hook for Canadian as well as U.S. taxes.

Or did you plan to do all this under the table? Maintain your Boston home and address, have your salary done by direct deposit to a U.S. bank, and somehow transfer it to Canada? Then you're at risk for immigration fraud, and possibly tax sanctions, and so is your employer.

It could be a long time before your girlfriend's affairs are settled. Do you plan to camp out in Toronto for months or years? And possibly make things worse for her just by your presence?

There's a Canadian girl here in Jersey who married a Yank and had two kids. Her divorce stipulates that she cannot move back to Canada with her teen-age boys until they're 18. She's homesick and miserable. Especially since her kids grew up in the States and don't want to move to Canada.

I say this because you're caught in a custody battle. You're miles away from a K3. When it's possible for her to marry again, she may not be able to take her daughter away from Toronto. That could be a deal breaker for your relationship.

Protect what you have, and what you have to offer. Stay in Boston, work hard, save your pennies, get yourself an Air Canada Aeroplan account, and take lots of trips to T.O. Visit, but don't make any moves. Let her legal affairs run their course and her wounds heal before you make big plans.

Or, are you willing to pull up stakes, move to another country, become a legal permnanent resident, and take on all the tax headaches? That's a pretty big decision when your girlfriend is still embroiled in a nasty battle with her ex.

ohh yeah basically my plan is to move up once the company says yes and apply for landed status since you can do that from inside canada. I will stay until the case is resolved. if we have to stay, its ok because her and her husband have a written agreement that the daughter can choose at age 8 which is 5 years from now. so thats my longest wait really. so no im not going to do anything shadey, if my company says no then i will still proceed with visa (marriage) and then apply for a job - living in toronto isnt really a big deal for me for 1-5 years. i know i will be filing taxes in both countries, fine as well. ill get the appropriate tax attorney. We have done this log distance thing for 2 years and its time to step up and since her ex changed his mind ill have to go there for a bit which is ok by me - i love the girl what can i say

Cruedog..

Have you gone to any Canadian Visa sites yet.. all of them will say that going through with the In-Canada Processing for permanent resdience is a bad idea. Almost everyone is recommending out-of-Canada processing. It's half the time and you have the freedom to come and go that is not there for In-Canada Processing. If you want to immigrate to Canada, suggest that you get married and apply for out-of-Canada processing.

[Married_my_love 0]

YES! Listen to Zyggy; I am applying Outside Canada, and all the folks I chat with who applied Inside Canada are sad and regretting it. They end up in a holding bin for months and months and they take much longer. PLUS you can't "appeal" if you are denied, and you can't leave to travel until it's over.

Hi zyg!

Edited June 10, 2006 by Married_my_love