Defining haram?

[Henia 11]

I was not saying you are haraam - no just stating that saying something is haraam when it is not clearly defined in the Quran is/can be considered a sin. And I am not going to agrue with you ... but as I said before people should not listen to everything they read online. But best to ask our local imam and follow up with your own research.

And Sunnipath is mainly Shalafi and Hanafi ... not everyone follows these schools of thoughts.

[Henia 11]

And I would like to add that people would do themselves and the world a favour if they stopped listening to these sites but actually got down and dirty with FIQH. There are several books out there and courses at the majids. All the answers lay here!

[AlHayatZween 2]

The following is clearly defined in the Quran as haraam. All else is halal or makrouh.

01. Associating anything with Allah

02. Murder

03. Practising magic

04. Not Praying

05. Not paying Zakat

06. Not fasting on a Day of Ramadan without excuse

07. Not performing Hajj, while being able to do so

08. Disrespect to parents

09. Abandoning relatives

10. Fornication and Adultery

11. Homosexuality(sodomy)

12. Interest(Riba)

13. Wrongfully consuming the property of an orphan

14. Lying about Allah and His Messenger

15. Running away from the battlefield

16. A leader's deceiving his people and being unjust to them

17. Pride and arrogance

18. Bearing false witness

19. Drinking Khamr (wine)

20. Gambling

21. Slandering chaste women

22. Stealing from the spoils of war

23. Stealing

24. Highway Robbery

25. Taking false oath

26. Oppression

27. Illegal gain

28. Consuming wealth acquired unlawfully

29. Committing suicide

30. Frequent lying

31. Judging unjustly

32. Giving and Accepting bribes

33. Woman's imitating man and man's imitating woman

34. Being cuckold

35. Marrying a divorced woman in order to make her lawful for the husband

36. Not protecting oneself from urine

37. Showing-off

38. Learning knowledge of the religion for the sake of this world and concealing that knowledge

39. Bertrayal of trust

40. Recounting favours

41. Denying Allah's Decree

42. Listening (to) people's private conversations

43. Carrying tales

44. Cursing

45. Breaking contracts

46. Believing in fortune-tellers and astrologers

47. A woman's bad conduct towards her husband

48. Making statues and pictures

49. Lamenting, wailing, tearing the clothing, and doing other things of this sort when an affliction befalls

50. Treating others unjustly

51. Overbearing conduct toward the wife, the servant, the weak, and animals

52. Offending one's neighbour

53. Offending and abusing Muslims

54. Offending people and having an arrogant attitude toward them

55. Trailing one's garment in pride

56. Men's wearing silk and gold

57. A slave's running away from his master

58. Slaughtering an animal which has been dedicated to anyone other than Allah

59. To knowingly ascribe one's paternity to a father other than one's own

60. Arguing and disputing violently

61. Witholding excess water

62. Giving short weight or measure

63. Feeling secure from Allah's Plan

64. Offending Allah's righteous friends

65. Not praying in congregation but praying alone without an excuse

66. Persistently missing Friday Prayers without any excuse

67. Unsurping the rights of the heir through bequests

68. Deceiving and plotting evil

69. Spying for the enemy of the Muslims

70. Cursing or insulting any of the Companiions of Allah's Messenger

Good discussion...

yes, this is sort of what i was getting at in my argument last night. glad i wasn't out in left field on this one...

[doodlebugg 10]

That list is from Quran *and* Sunnah. http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satelli...d=1119503547542

[Ban Hammer 13,283]

[Tunisia216 2]

that was haram.. not harem looool which I am sure from all your time in MENA you know.. But I like your picture anyway!

Edited August 19, 2008 by Ash * Habibati

[HLM 1]

I think whether its haram or not... its a personal effort to do what Allah loves more... meaning that even if its not haram theres thawab in doing thikr than listening to a song in ur free time ... theres more thawab in reading quran than listening to a song.... just glaring at Allahs creation even is more of thawab than listening to music..... dont occupy urself with the exact rule on it; u know what u re here for n u know u shud be gaining thawab as much as u can... u work on that goal in life with the means that Allah has given u. Take it easy on ur self n do it in baby steps if u decide u dont want to listen to them anymore n if u do; as i said give Allah time too and always remember Allah gives rewards for any struggle u have and HE IS THE MOST MERCIFUL

I used to listen to music non-stop then i started balancing; then eventually the good weighed out the music n other stuff. i listen to anasheed mainly but i might listen to a couple of em with music -but they have to be clean n have a msg- but im usually not happy that i did... my two cents too lol

[Ban Hammer 13,283]

that was haram.. not harem looool which I am sure from all your time in MENA you know.. But I like your picture anyway!

but harem is much more fun i'm sure

[nunyab 0]

good discussions.. I ask my husband.. and we both read...i like that way cause it helps him dive into the Qu'ran more than just "that's the way it is"

Good talks though!!!

Rajaa

[Henia 11]

I think whether its haram or not... its a personal effort to do what Allah loves more... meaning that even if its not haram theres thawab in doing thikr than listening to a song in ur free time ... theres more thawab in reading quran than listening to a song.... just glaring at Allahs creation even is more of thawab than listening to music..... dont occupy urself with the exact rule on it; u know what u re here for n u know u shud be gaining thawab as much as u can... u work on that goal in life with the means that Allah has given u. Take it easy on ur self n do it in baby steps if u decide u dont want to listen to them anymore n if u do; as i said give Allah time too and always remember Allah gives rewards for any struggle u have and HE IS THE MOST MERCIFUL

I used to listen to music non-stop then i started balancing; then eventually the good weighed out the music n other stuff. i listen to anasheed mainly but i might listen to a couple of em with music -but they have to be clean n have a msg- but im usually not happy that i did... my two cents too lol

You said it well Masriyah!

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

The following is clearly defined in the Quran as haraam. All else is halal or makrouh.

01. Associating anything with Allah

02. Murder

03. Practising magic

04. Not Praying

05. Not paying Zakat

06. Not fasting on a Day of Ramadan without excuse

07. Not performing Hajj, while being able to do so

08. Disrespect to parents

09. Abandoning relatives

10. Fornication and Adultery

11. Homosexuality(sodomy)

12. Interest(Riba)

13. Wrongfully consuming the property of an orphan

14. Lying about Allah and His Messenger

15. Running away from the battlefield

16. A leader's deceiving his people and being unjust to them

17. Pride and arrogance

18. Bearing false witness

19. Drinking Khamr (wine)

20. Gambling

21. Slandering chaste women

22. Stealing from the spoils of war

23. Stealing

24. Highway Robbery

25. Taking false oath

26. Oppression

27. Illegal gain

28. Consuming wealth acquired unlawfully

29. Committing suicide

30. Frequent lying

31. Judging unjustly

32. Giving and Accepting bribes

33. Woman's imitating man and man's imitating woman

34. Being cuckold

35. Marrying a divorced woman in order to make her lawful for the husband

36. Not protecting oneself from urine

37. Showing-off

38. Learning knowledge of the religion for the sake of this world and concealing that knowledge

39. Bertrayal of trust

40. Recounting favours

41. Denying Allah's Decree

42. Listening (to) people's private conversations

43. Carrying tales

44. Cursing

45. Breaking contracts

46. Believing in fortune-tellers and astrologers

47. A woman's bad conduct towards her husband

48. Making statues and pictures

49. Lamenting, wailing, tearing the clothing, and doing other things of this sort when an affliction befalls

50. Treating others unjustly

51. Overbearing conduct toward the wife, the servant, the weak, and animals

52. Offending one's neighbour

53. Offending and abusing Muslims

54. Offending people and having an arrogant attitude toward them

55. Trailing one's garment in pride

56. Men's wearing silk and gold

57. A slave's running away from his master

58. Slaughtering an animal which has been dedicated to anyone other than Allah

59. To knowingly ascribe one's paternity to a father other than one's own

60. Arguing and disputing violently

61. Witholding excess water

62. Giving short weight or measure

63. Feeling secure from Allah's Plan

64. Offending Allah's righteous friends

65. Not praying in congregation but praying alone without an excuse

66. Persistently missing Friday Prayers without any excuse

67. Unsurping the rights of the heir through bequests

68. Deceiving and plotting evil

69. Spying for the enemy of the Muslims

70. Cursing or insulting any of the Companiions of Allah's Messenger

well it will be a long ramadan for my guy LOL

He has some extra days of fasting to get rid of 17,19,20,30,34,37,38,44,50,66 HARAM ALIK

[sandinista! 1,816]

broadcasting yr husband's or wife's wrongdoings in public falls under a couple of those listings as well.

[Henia 11]

LOL to the last 2 posts LOL!

[nunyab 0]

[Ban Hammer 13,283]

i don't think we'd be having any bickering if this was about harems.