K1 Denied - Please Please HELP!!!

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PLEASE HELP!!! PLEASE HELP!!!

I am using my brother’s account. So please ignore any footnotes/dates/signatures.

Our K1 was denied at Mumbai consulate last week and now I am heath-broken. It was denied b/c they thought “proof of relationship” was not strong enough and they needed more evidence. They gave her one year to submit more proof or the file will be cancelled. Please recommend something to me.

Below is the quick summary.

I am single and my fiancée is divorcee.

Referral: August 14th, 2007 (Phone and Email conversations started)

Met Via: Family Friend

First Met(person): 10th December 2007

Engagement: 14th December 2007

Return to USA: 24th December 2007

I-129F Filed: 4th January 2007

Her Interview: 22st July 2008

We submitted following documents for the “proof of relationship”:

1) Engagement Ceremony photographs of us and family members

2) Phone call lists

3) Email lists

4) Online chat conversations

5) Personal photos with each other

6) Greetings cards sent to each other

7) Ring, restaurant, shopping receipts

8) Boarding pass for my trip to India

Due to this, I am going to India on the 5th and coming back on the 21st. Our plan is to spend more time together, take more pictures with the family. Once I return, we will re-submit the file.

We contacted the lawyer and he also recommended the same thing.

My questions are:

1) Can I call NVC or DOS here and ask them what I should do and why I was denied?

2) Has anyone been though this and how did you deal with it?

PLEASE HELP!!!

[YuAndDan 153]

Sounds like it was not Denied, they want overcome evidence is all. A denial results in the petition being returned to the USA.

Give them additional evidence.

Sometimes they just want more time to review the case.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Just a thought, you filed a fiance petition about 3 weeks after you met. Did you include much evidence of your relationship as ongoing after you returned to the US? It seems as though they don't believe it is a legitimate relationship for some reason. You will probably be better off lettting some time pass before you submit more evidence. Show that the relationship is ongoing. You got denied on the 22nd of July, go to visit August 5th, come home the 21st and re-submit as soon as you get back. Too quick. Let some time pass, IMHO.

[Mononoke28 134]

This happens in the US embassy in Bogotá all the time and all they have to do is call back the embassy, make another appointment and bring more evidence. Some times the SO goes along for the second interview.

They're all approved after the second interview once they bring in what the consul was requesting.

Diana

[Aubrey 10]

From what I've read around VJ, you should have received a letter stating why she was denied at the consulate. Did they want more evidence of the overall relationship or of an ongoing one?

What I'd recommend is that you gather your evidence you submitted originally with the I-129F (what you listed), and go to the next interview WITH her while you are there. That should provide all the proof they need. Don't wait until you return to do it again.

[Minya's wife 24]

Calling NVC or DOS will be of no help at this time. If you think you need further clarification of what further evidentiary proof is required, you may try and contact the consulate directly. You were not denied per se. The consular official who interviewed your fiancee wants further evidence of the bona-fide of your relationship. Go visit again as you plan, gather more evidence and send it in. They will then re-evaluate your visa application based upon the new evidence.

Good luck,

-P

[Minya's wife 24]

Just a thought, you filed a fiance petition about 3 weeks after you met. Did you include much evidence of your relationship as ongoing after you returned to the US? It seems as though they don't believe it is a legitimate relationship for some reason. You will probably be better off lettting some time pass before you submit more evidence. Show that the relationship is ongoing. You got denied on the 22nd of July, go to visit August 5th, come home the 21st and re-submit as soon as you get back. Too quick. Let some time pass, IMHO.

We submitted following documents for the "proof of relationship":

1) Engagement Ceremony photographs of us and family members

2) Phone call lists

3) Email lists

4) Online chat conversations

5) Personal photos with each other

6) Greetings cards sent to each other

7) Ring, restaurant, shopping receipts

8) Boarding pass for my trip to India

Its not about relationship legitimacy. The consular official cannot cannot decide whether the relationship is legitimate or not. The CO can only refuse to issue a visa, he cannot judge the relationship itself. By approving the K-1 visa petition it is USCIS that states in effect that the relationship is legitimate enough to be eligible for the fiancee visa. At the visa application stage the beneficiary is not proving the legitimacy of the relationship, they're showing with evidence that yes indeed the fiancee relationship exists and is ongoing. (just a point of clarification.)

Sounds like the OP submitted evidence of ongoing relationship....but you may be right in that the consular official (CO) felt that it was not enough evidence(i.e. more time needs to pass in the ongoing relationship and more evidence needs to be presented.)

The OP has the right idea, another visit, more photos, phone calls, e-mails and cards need to be gathered during this next month and all that can be re-submitted to the consulate.

-P

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Just a thought, you filed a fiance petition about 3 weeks after you met. Did you include much evidence of your relationship as ongoing after you returned to the US? It seems as though they don't believe it is a legitimate relationship for some reason. You will probably be better off lettting some time pass before you submit more evidence. Show that the relationship is ongoing. You got denied on the 22nd of July, go to visit August 5th, come home the 21st and re-submit as soon as you get back. Too quick. Let some time pass, IMHO.

We submitted following documents for the "proof of relationship":

1) Engagement Ceremony photographs of us and family members

2) Phone call lists

3) Email lists

4) Online chat conversations

5) Personal photos with each other

6) Greetings cards sent to each other

7) Ring, restaurant, shopping receipts

8) Boarding pass for my trip to India

Its not about relationship legitimacy. The consular official cannot cannot decide whether the relationship is legitimate or not. The CO can only refuse to issue a visa, he cannot judge the relationship itself. By approving the K-1 visa petition it is USCIS that states in effect that the relationship is legitimate enough to be eligible for the fiancee visa. At the visa application stage the beneficiary is not proving the legitimacy of the relationship, they're showing with evidence that yes indeed the fiancee relationship exists and is ongoing. (just a point of clarification.)

Sounds like the OP submitted evidence of ongoing relationship....but you may be right in that the consular official (CO) felt that it was not enough evidence(i.e. more time needs to pass in the ongoing relationship and more evidence needs to be presented.)

The OP has the right idea, another visit, more photos, phone calls, e-mails and cards need to be gathered during this next month and all that can be re-submitted to the consulate.

-P

In a way the CO is making a judgement about the relationship, he didn't issue the visa. He didn't feel that there was enough proof of a relationship, hence the visa denial until more evidence is submitted.

[PDD 0]

thanks everyone.

sorry was using the word "denied". it is actually not denied. they need more evidence of ongoing relationship.

Lawyers are also telling us to write more personal letters, lots of emails, phone calls. they also mentioned that one more trip would really make the case stronger.

[melusine 5]

put picture with you both and friends/family

but damn from my point of view you already have a lot of evidences.

[Mononoke28 134]

I was thinking the same thing. You broght in more stuff than we did.

Diana

[PDD 0]

i also believed that we submitted more then most people out there. it is possible that length of the relationship is the issue. everything happened really fast.

shes been thought a bad relationship once already. may be, they are looking at that as well.

[Penguin_ie 5,992]

i also believed that we submitted more then most people out there. it is possible that length of the relationship is the issue. everything happened really fast.

shes been thought a bad relationship once already. may be, they are looking at that as well.

If the bad relationship had her apply for a US visa then yes, thry might be looking at you two more closely, but it shouldn't cause a denial, as you have so much good evidence.

Good luck!