The "run around" , Guangzhou

[driz8 0]

Hi,

You have all been so very helpful in answering my past questions that I must ask another!

Fiance had interview June 24th. Was told she passed but needed to submit "new" police documents.

I have tried unsuccesfuly to purchase time on the embassy "pay for advice" line.

Does she need a police document from each province/city she lived in her life? She is originally from Taiwan and has that one although it is a year old July 4th.

She originally moved to Nanchang and is there now trying to get her record. She was told (after having to supply 1000 RMB worth of cigarettes, that only one officer had her record and he wouldn't be back until 3PM!

She has her record from where she is presently living (Sanya).

Who can I call to get this resolved? Local Congress person or ?

We are VERY frustrated because this is the only thing standing etween her and the visa!

Next I can forsee her being told she has to go back to Taipei to get a new police record from there even thoough when she went for the interview last week it was still valid.

And this bribery stuff with the police department....UGH!

Thanks in advance for your advice!

Best,

Curt D + Jyueru

[pushbrk 12,822]

Hi,

You have all been so very helpful in answering my past questions that I must ask another!

Fiance had interview June 24th. Was told she passed but needed to submit "new" police documents.

I have tried unsuccesfuly to purchase time on the embassy "pay for advice" line.

Does she need a police document from each province/city she lived in her life? She is originally from Taiwan and has that one although it is a year old July 4th.

She originally moved to Nanchang and is there now trying to get her record. She was told (after having to supply 1000 RMB worth of cigarettes, that only one officer had her record and he wouldn't be back until 3PM!

She has her record from where she is presently living (Sanya).

Who can I call to get this resolved? Local Congress person or ?

We are VERY frustrated because this is the only thing standing etween her and the visa!

Next I can forsee her being told she has to go back to Taipei to get a new police record from there even thoough when she went for the interview last week it was still valid.

And this bribery stuff with the police department....UGH!

Thanks in advance for your advice!

Best,

Curt D + Jyueru

You just get them exactly what they told you to get. One police report in her hokou city is good for all of China. If they asked for a new one from Taiwan, get it. In the meantime, contacting the pay number to get an appointment can be a real pain. Keep trying.

Getting police reports too early is a common mistake we try to educate people about here.

[driz8 0]

Hi,

You have all been so very helpful in answering my past questions that I must ask another!

Fiance had interview June 24th. Was told she passed but needed to submit "new" police documents.

I have tried unsuccesfuly to purchase time on the embassy "pay for advice" line.

Does she need a police document from each province/city she lived in her life? She is originally from Taiwan and has that one although it is a year old July 4th.

She originally moved to Nanchang and is there now trying to get her record. She was told (after having to supply 1000 RMB worth of cigarettes, that only one officer had her record and he wouldn't be back until 3PM!

She has her record from where she is presently living (Sanya).

Who can I call to get this resolved? Local Congress person or ?

We are VERY frustrated because this is the only thing standing etween her and the visa!

Next I can forsee her being told she has to go back to Taipei to get a new police record from there even thoough when she went for the interview last week it was still valid.

And this bribery stuff with the police department....UGH!

Thanks in advance for your advice!

Best,

Curt D + Jyueru

You just get them exactly what they told you to get. One police report in her hokou city is good for all of China. If they asked for a new one from Taiwan, get it. In the meantime, contacting the pay number to get an appointment can be a real pain. Keep trying.

Getting police reports too early is a common mistake we try to educate people about here.

So, you dont think she should try too hard to get the one from Nanchang where she lived from 2004-2006?

I will tell her to bail and head back to Guangzhou! She is burnt in traveling all over the country...

Thank you!!

[pushbrk 12,822]

Hi,

You have all been so very helpful in answering my past questions that I must ask another!

Fiance had interview June 24th. Was told she passed but needed to submit "new" police documents.

I have tried unsuccesfuly to purchase time on the embassy "pay for advice" line.

Does she need a police document from each province/city she lived in her life? She is originally from Taiwan and has that one although it is a year old July 4th.

She originally moved to Nanchang and is there now trying to get her record. She was told (after having to supply 1000 RMB worth of cigarettes, that only one officer had her record and he wouldn't be back until 3PM!

She has her record from where she is presently living (Sanya).

Who can I call to get this resolved? Local Congress person or ?

We are VERY frustrated because this is the only thing standing etween her and the visa!

Next I can forsee her being told she has to go back to Taipei to get a new police record from there even thoough when she went for the interview last week it was still valid.

And this bribery stuff with the police department....UGH!

Thanks in advance for your advice!

Best,

Curt D + Jyueru

You just get them exactly what they told you to get. One police report in her hokou city is good for all of China. If they asked for a new one from Taiwan, get it. In the meantime, contacting the pay number to get an appointment can be a real pain. Keep trying.

Getting police reports too early is a common mistake we try to educate people about here.

So, you dont think she should try too hard to get the one from Nanchang where she lived from 2004-2006?

I will tell her to bail and head back to Guangzhou! She is burnt in traveling all over the country...

Thank you!!

Last time I looked at a map, Nanchang was part of "all of China". See bold above and believe it. This ain't my first rodeo. Also, this is not the runaround. You got the police reports too early and now you do it right.

Edited July 2, 2008 by pushbrk

[driz8 0]

Hi,

You have all been so very helpful in answering my past questions that I must ask another!

Fiance had interview June 24th. Was told she passed but needed to submit "new" police documents.

I have tried unsuccesfuly to purchase time on the embassy "pay for advice" line.

Does she need a police document from each province/city she lived in her life? She is originally from Taiwan and has that one although it is a year old July 4th.

She originally moved to Nanchang and is there now trying to get her record. She was told (after having to supply 1000 RMB worth of cigarettes, that only one officer had her record and he wouldn't be back until 3PM!

She has her record from where she is presently living (Sanya).

Who can I call to get this resolved? Local Congress person or ?

We are VERY frustrated because this is the only thing standing etween her and the visa!

Next I can forsee her being told she has to go back to Taipei to get a new police record from there even thoough when she went for the interview last week it was still valid.

And this bribery stuff with the police department....UGH!

Thanks in advance for your advice!

Best,

Curt D + Jyueru

You just get them exactly what they told you to get. One police report in her hokou city is good for all of China. If they asked for a new one from Taiwan, get it. In the meantime, contacting the pay number to get an appointment can be a real pain. Keep trying.

Getting police reports too early is a common mistake we try to educate people about here.

So, you dont think she should try too hard to get the one from Nanchang where she lived from 2004-2006?

I will tell her to bail and head back to Guangzhou! She is burnt in traveling all over the country...

Thank you!!

Last time I looked at a map, Nanchang was part of "all of China". See bold above and believe it. This ain't my first rodeo. Also, this is not the runaround. You got the police reports too early and now you do it right.

[driz8 0]

Hi,

You have all been so very helpful in answering my past questions that I must ask another!

Fiance had interview June 24th. Was told she passed but needed to submit "new" police documents.

I have tried unsuccesfuly to purchase time on the embassy "pay for advice" line.

Does she need a police document from each province/city she lived in her life? She is originally from Taiwan and has that one although it is a year old July 4th.

She originally moved to Nanchang and is there now trying to get her record. She was told (after having to supply 1000 RMB worth of cigarettes, that only one officer had her record and he wouldn't be back until 3PM!

She has her record from where she is presently living (Sanya).

Who can I call to get this resolved? Local Congress person or ?

We are VERY frustrated because this is the only thing standing etween her and the visa!

Next I can forsee her being told she has to go back to Taipei to get a new police record from there even thoough when she went for the interview last week it was still valid.

And this bribery stuff with the police department....UGH!

Thanks in advance for your advice!

Best,

Curt D + Jyueru

You just get them exactly what they told you to get. One police report in her hokou city is good for all of China. If they asked for a new one from Taiwan, get it. In the meantime, contacting the pay number to get an appointment can be a real pain. Keep trying.

Getting police reports too early is a common mistake we try to educate people about here.

So, you dont think she should try too hard to get the one from Nanchang where she lived from 2004-2006?

I will tell her to bail and head back to Guangzhou! She is burnt in traveling all over the country...

Thank you!!

Last time I looked at a map, Nanchang was part of "all of China". See bold above and believe it. This ain't my first rodeo. Also, this is not the runaround. You got the police reports too early and now you do it right.

(OOPS!)

OK, I finally received my PIN number via email and made a call to the "help" line.

In between I also got some clarification from my finace.

The report from Sanya states " No criminal record in Sanya" which I explained to the VO on the phone.

The VO then conferred with her supervisor who said that in this case since it specifically said "...in Sanya" that she would be required to get the record from Nanchang too! Mainly becuase she is a Taiwan citizen.

So, it's back to the police dept in an hour to see what the specific officer holding her file (in a city of 5 million people mind you) tells her. If he is in a good mood, were set. If not it may be another case of smokes or who knows!. I did mention this to te VO and they said if she has trouble she can try to go to the Jiangxi province police station and they may be able to help.

One other thing to note as well. The VO told her once she had these papers she could go directly to the embassy in Guangzhou and submit them without an appointment (Mon-wed) and they would approve the visa on the spot and in 2 days she would have it in hand. The phone recording also states "If you have already been interviewed and have been asked to submit further documention and would like to shcedule an appointment now, press 3"

Yet the lady (Shirley) on the phone siad they will not accept in person as of Jan 1st 2008 and you must express mail the docs in....

This is so FRUSTRATING!~! We are so close!

Pushbrk, I really do appreciate all your (quick) advice!

THANK YOU.

Curt

[pushbrk 12,822]

Hi,

You have all been so very helpful in answering my past questions that I must ask another!

Fiance had interview June 24th. Was told she passed but needed to submit "new" police documents.

I have tried unsuccesfuly to purchase time on the embassy "pay for advice" line.

Does she need a police document from each province/city she lived in her life? She is originally from Taiwan and has that one although it is a year old July 4th.

She originally moved to Nanchang and is there now trying to get her record. She was told (after having to supply 1000 RMB worth of cigarettes, that only one officer had her record and he wouldn't be back until 3PM!

She has her record from where she is presently living (Sanya).

Who can I call to get this resolved? Local Congress person or ?

We are VERY frustrated because this is the only thing standing etween her and the visa!

Next I can forsee her being told she has to go back to Taipei to get a new police record from there even thoough when she went for the interview last week it was still valid.

And this bribery stuff with the police department....UGH!

Thanks in advance for your advice!

Best,

Curt D + Jyueru

You just get them exactly what they told you to get. One police report in her hokou city is good for all of China. If they asked for a new one from Taiwan, get it. In the meantime, contacting the pay number to get an appointment can be a real pain. Keep trying.

Getting police reports too early is a common mistake we try to educate people about here.

So, you dont think she should try too hard to get the one from Nanchang where she lived from 2004-2006?

I will tell her to bail and head back to Guangzhou! She is burnt in traveling all over the country...

Thank you!!

Last time I looked at a map, Nanchang was part of "all of China". See bold above and believe it. This ain't my first rodeo. Also, this is not the runaround. You got the police reports too early and now you do it right.

(OOPS!)

OK, I finally received my PIN number via email and made a call to the "help" line.

In between I also got some clarification from my finace.

The report from Sanya states " No criminal record in Sanya" which I explained to the VO on the phone.

The VO then conferred with her supervisor who said that in this case since it specifically said "...in Sanya" that she would be required to get the record from Nanchang too! Mainly becuase she is a Taiwan citizen.

So, it's back to the police dept in an hour to see what the specific officer holding her file (in a city of 5 million people mind you) tells her. If he is in a good mood, were set. If not it may be another case of smokes or who knows!. I did mention this to te VO and they said if she has trouble she can try to go to the Jiangxi province police station and they may be able to help.

One other thing to note as well. The VO told her once she had these papers she could go directly to the embassy in Guangzhou and submit them without an appointment (Mon-wed) and they would approve the visa on the spot and in 2 days she would have it in hand. The phone recording also states "If you have already been interviewed and have been asked to submit further documention and would like to shcedule an appointment now, press 3"

Yet the lady (Shirley) on the phone siad they will not accept in person as of Jan 1st 2008 and you must express mail the docs in....

This is so FRUSTRATING!~! We are so close!

Pushbrk, I really do appreciate all your (quick) advice!

THANK YOU.

Curt

Ok, good. So she probably will be successful getting a new letter either from the local police or the provincial. Not sure what you're going to do about Taiwan though. I'm not sure a Taiwan Citizen can get a single letter for all of China. She may well have to go to Nanchang. She should take the blue slip back to the Consulate with her when she submits the papers, then go back in two days for her answer. It will take another two days before she can pick up the visa at the local post office near the Consulate unless she lives in Guangdong province. They will only mail directly within the province.

Edited July 2, 2008 by pushbrk

[driz8 0]

Hi,

You have all been so very helpful in answering my past questions that I must ask another!

Fiance had interview June 24th. Was told she passed but needed to submit "new" police documents.

I have tried unsuccesfuly to purchase time on the embassy "pay for advice" line.

Does she need a police document from each province/city she lived in her life? She is originally from Taiwan and has that one although it is a year old July 4th.

She originally moved to Nanchang and is there now trying to get her record. She was told (after having to supply 1000 RMB worth of cigarettes, that only one officer had her record and he wouldn't be back until 3PM!

She has her record from where she is presently living (Sanya).

Who can I call to get this resolved? Local Congress person or ?

We are VERY frustrated because this is the only thing standing etween her and the visa!

Next I can forsee her being told she has to go back to Taipei to get a new police record from there even thoough when she went for the interview last week it was still valid.

And this bribery stuff with the police department....UGH!

Thanks in advance for your advice!

Best,

Curt D + Jyueru

You just get them exactly what they told you to get. One police report in her hokou city is good for all of China. If they asked for a new one from Taiwan, get it. In the meantime, contacting the pay number to get an appointment can be a real pain. Keep trying.

Getting police reports too early is a common mistake we try to educate people about here.

So, you dont think she should try too hard to get the one from Nanchang where she lived from 2004-2006?

I will tell her to bail and head back to Guangzhou! She is burnt in traveling all over the country...

Thank you!!

Last time I looked at a map, Nanchang was part of "all of China". See bold above and believe it. This ain't my first rodeo. Also, this is not the runaround. You got the police reports too early and now you do it right.

(OOPS!)

OK, I finally received my PIN number via email and made a call to the "help" line.

In between I also got some clarification from my finace.

The report from Sanya states " No criminal record in Sanya" which I explained to the VO on the phone.

The VO then conferred with her supervisor who said that in this case since it specifically said "...in Sanya" that she would be required to get the record from Nanchang too! Mainly becuase she is a Taiwan citizen.

So, it's back to the police dept in an hour to see what the specific officer holding her file (in a city of 5 million people mind you) tells her. If he is in a good mood, were set. If not it may be another case of smokes or who knows!. I did mention this to te VO and they said if she has trouble she can try to go to the Jiangxi province police station and they may be able to help.

One other thing to note as well. The VO told her once she had these papers she could go directly to the embassy in Guangzhou and submit them without an appointment (Mon-wed) and they would approve the visa on the spot and in 2 days she would have it in hand. The phone recording also states "If you have already been interviewed and have been asked to submit further documention and would like to shcedule an appointment now, press 3"

Yet the lady (Shirley) on the phone siad they will not accept in person as of Jan 1st 2008 and you must express mail the docs in....

This is so FRUSTRATING!~! We are so close!

Pushbrk, I really do appreciate all your (quick) advice!

THANK YOU.

Curt

Ok, good. So she probably will be successful getting a new letter either from the local police or the provincial. Not sure what you're going to do about Taiwan though. I'm not sure a Taiwan Citizen can get a single letter for all of China. She may well have to go to Nanchang. She should take the blue slip back to the Consulate with her when she submits the papers, then go back in two days for her answer. It will take another two days before she can pick up the visa at the local post office near the Consulate unless she lives in Guangdong province. They will only mail directly within the province.

She did get the record from nanchang, had it notorized and is on a train to Guangzhou!

They didn't give her a blue rejection slip in Guangzhou last week. She got a white slip stating what doucments weere required. She is determined to go there and hand carry to the VO as she swares they told her to do!

CD

[zanyi 0]

I thought you have to get a police certificate from each place you have lived at since you were 16. My fiance has lived in more than one place since he was sixteen, but only in China and those cities are recorded in his Hu Kou. Does he only need the police certificate from his current residence?

[pushbrk 12,822]

I thought you have to get a police certificate from each place you have lived at since you were 16. My fiance has lived in more than one place since he was sixteen, but only in China and those cities are recorded in his Hu Kou. Does he only need the police certificate from his current residence?

Yes, just the one report from Hu Kou for all of China but request it that way and inform the Gong Zheng Chu as well.