Visa Denied

[Dakine 26]

“Photo evidence submitted cannot establish the petitioner and beneficiary in each other’s presence for more than approximately four days.”

This statement is true. We have only had one visit together and picture to span this time period. However, according to the requirements on the I-129f application, it states that you must have met your fiancé in person within the past two years. We have fulfilled this requirement“Photo evidence submitted cannot establish the petitioner and beneficiary in each other’s presence for more than approximately four days.”

That's the reason my fiance was denied. Just proving you have met in the last 2 years doesn't count much at the interview.

Main thing is you have to prove you have a bonafide relationship.

4 days together doesn't hack it unless you have tons of other communication and financial evidence.

First time I didn't have much as I thought alls I had prove was having met in the last 2 years.

PICTURES especially with her family was what the CO was looking for when my fiance was denied!

Next time around I made two long trips to be with my lady and took LOTS of pictures. Had bucoo phone, emails, financial and chat records also.

I approached it like a job or making a movie. Most pictures, emails were orchestrated for immigration. Not a lot of spur of the moment pictures.

No problems that time.

[Teacher Mark 53]

“Photo evidence submitted cannot establish the petitioner and beneficiary in each other’s presence for more than approximately four days.”

This statement is true. We have only had one visit together and picture to span this time period. However, according to the requirements on the I-129f application, it states that you must have met your fiancé in person within the past two years. We have fulfilled this requirement“Photo evidence submitted cannot establish the petitioner and beneficiary in each other’s presence for more than approximately four days.”

That's the reason my fiance was denied. Just proving you have met in the last 2 years doesn't count much at the interview.

Main thing is you have to prove you have a bonafide relationship.

4 days together doesn't hack it unless you have tons of other communication and financial evidence.

First time I didn't have much as I thought alls I had prove was having met in the last 2 years.

PICTURES especially with her family was what the CO was looking for when my fiance was denied!

Next time around I made two long trips to be with my lady and took LOTS of pictures. Had bucoo phone, emails, financial and chat records also.

I approached it like a job or making a movie. Most pictures, emails were orchestrated for immigration. Not a lot of spur of the moment pictures.

No problems that time.

HCMC is making their own rules.

[AmericanGentleman 0]

Thanks all for your input. As upset as I am, I am going to remain positive. If it does go back, as it is likely to, I guess I have about 2 years from today before she will be sitting down for round 2's interview right?

[Teacher Mark 53]

Thanks all for your input. As upset as I am, I am going to remain positive. If it does go back, as it is likely to, I guess I have about 2 years from today before she will be sitting down for round 2's interview right?

I don't think it would be that long. The goal now is keeping the case in Country.

This is only the first interview, correct? If so then the problems they highlighted need to be addressed.

Look at this user:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showuser=38699

Around 60 days in Administrative Review (with ME's help).

Then there's Lovemyhuegirl:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showuser=35078

Then 3AD:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showuser=14430

Every case is obviously different and they seem to have thrown alot at you two. It doesn't look like anything that can't be overcame though, in my opinion.

[AmericanGentleman 0]

The primary question I posed to ME in the email was if it is too late for him to get involved. I am thinking there is not a known answer for that though.

[Teacher Mark 53]

The primary question I posed to ME in the email was if it is too late for him to get involved. I am thinking there is not a known answer for that though.

I don't think so. In most cases this is actually where he comes in.

We decided to use him from the start because I spend so much time reading these horror stories. I want to be prepared. It's like the saying goes "The war is won before the first battle is even fought". This is literally a war sometimes.

[don2008 0]

what color slip did she get? if its green or blue you still have a chance.

[Thai 0]

Contact Marc Ellis immediately . He did help me out before .

[ding 1]

Wow, that sounds pretty darn Drakonian. Hard to understand it...

I don't know what to say. Maybe they have her confused with another person and don't think it's real???

[Teacher Mark 53]

Wow, that sounds pretty darn Drakonian. Hard to understand it...

I don't know what to say. Maybe they have her confused with another person and don't think it's real???

They have themselves confused with human beings is more like it.

[Dave_Thao 0]

Thanks all for your input. As upset as I am, I am going to remain positive. If it does go back, as it is likely to, I guess I have about 2 years from today before she will be sitting down for round 2's interview right?

American, ME may be in the States right now. When I was in his office in May,I thought I heard him say he was going to the U.S. soon. I would wait until you talk to him before sending the consulate your letter. It isn't too late for him to get involved. I believe you have time to respond to the blue slip. It may say how much time you have on the bottom some where. I don't have mine with me so I can't tell you for sure. Relax and take your time to do it right. It isn't over yet.

Hang in there!

[AmericanGentleman 0]

The slip is blue but it does not say how much time we have and does not instruct us to do or provide anything else. I already sent the letter in 24 hours after getting the news. MC has not returned my email or phone calls. However, my fiance called his office in HCMC and spoke with an assistant. My fiance said she is going to go to his office today. Not sure if ME is there but at least it is goign somewhere.

[Icarus 0]

AG-

The best advice I can give you (from my experience with HCMC, fraud review, and ME) is to start saving your $$ and plan another trip back to VN ASAP if you wish to salvage this petition!!!!!!! (That is unless the embassy already sent back the petition to the US as denied, in this case also save your money, and go back to Ha and spend time with her, but you're gonna have a loooong wait. So try to stop that from happening...)

Some other posters on here are absolutely correct in telling you that you need to a lot more proof of a relationship to dig yourself out of the hole the Consulate has made of your case. In reality, it doesn't appear that you two have a 'standard' relationship and the embassy seems very reticent in handing over the visa with what little relationship evidence you've provided. Yes, you did 'technically' meet the requirements of the process (you did 'meet', if only for 4 days), BUT you have very little evidence to show of a loving relationship (other than letters...which are hard to prove as actual creative ownership ie, they could've been written or conceived by virtually anyone and made to look like its real to a 3rd party). With my case, it eventually took a photo of me with my (now) father-in-law where we were horsing around with a large durian to convince the USCOs that Nhu and I were legit. Looking at your posts, you should go back and spend more time with Ha while waiting for the embassy and ME, it definitely couldn't hurt!

We waited 3 months before I contacted ME after Nhu's initial interview and it took an additonal 4 months for me to get to HCMC and personally prove to the COs that we deserve the visa. You may want to prepare to do the same! Sorry if this seems a little harsh, but its tough love for my vj brothers!!!

Good Luck!!

Greg

[GREEN/TRAN 0]

My fiance was denied the visa. First they asked she come back with a timeline. She had one already prepared. They would not even look at it. They said it must come from the petitioner and be notarized. So I sent one via global express and she took it to the embassy. They then simply denied her the visa, saying they believe it to be a sham.

They state that my fiance does not know the basic about me such as the name of my parents. My fiance gave them the correct answer. Hell, she write to my mother regularly, how would she address the envelope if she didnt know her name? Not to mention she has had my G325 for a year now.

My fiance told me that she did the interview in vietnamese with a lady translating to a male american consular. I think she didnt translate properly or they were simply dead set on denying her. It makes no sense to ask for a timeline by me and then flat out deny her for stuff unrelated to our timeline.

I sent in another letter today to address the reasons they gave for denial and to plead my case in hopes to reverse the decision before they send it back to the states. But I think we will be screwed this time.

If I have to go thru this again from square one, you can bet I will be applying for residency in some other country as a backup plan while the US continues its fustercluck of an immigration system.

a lawyer will tell you they like to see more then one trip . If i was you i would make a copy of the blue slip if you can and get all ur evidence together and take it to the window as if you are there to turn in evidence. then they will see you already turned in ur evidence and then refuse to leave until you talk to a american and explain ur fiancee was cheated . a lawyer will tell you to refile . if you get in the embassy never leave until you talk to some one about ur case. I think there all a bunch of hung over drunken drug addicts over there lawyers included

[AmericanGentleman 0]

Greg,

I was under the impression that I would not have time to get to VN before they sent back the petition.