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I was suspicious that such was the case. Use of the term "his or her case" suggested to me that they didn't even know my gender when they compiled the report.

I got the sme leter from USCIS also. Word for word as for what you wrote. Nothing ws even diffrent from what you hve on your posting. I have been waiting over a year for my pending application.
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I hope the RFE means they're actually processing your case now and that you will soon be approved

going by your timeline, I still have more than one year to wait in this security check black hole :crying:

Look at my signature. I've been around, you know.

We hope this RFE is good news and nothing but that.

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Today I received a letter from my senator. What it states is not very encouraging. It seems they can take how ever long they like to process applications using a perceived security threat as an excuse.

The gist of the story is nothing about excuses. They can and are wise to take as long as it takes to adjudicate a petition if there is a perceived security threat. Thankfully, the completed security checks often show the perception of a potential threat is false resulting in delayed but ultimately approved petitions.

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As if there are good reports that ever come out of USCIS?

Many every day. We usually call them "NOA2".

Wouldnt know about it, havent ever seen one.

And come on, with "many" remark.

I agree with Pushbrk. They do an enormous amount of work. From the USCIS annual report:

"Every day, on average, USCIS’ 15,000 federal and contract employees:

Process 30,000 applications for immigration benefits

Issue 7,000 Permanent Resident Cards (green cards)

Adjudicate 200 refugee applications

Naturalize 3,000 new civilian citizens,

and 27 new citizens who are members of the United States Armed Forces

As a critical component of the Department of Homeland Security, USCIS

serves its important role in protecting the nation. To meet this responsibility, every day we:

Conduct 135,000 national security background checks

Capture 11,000 sets of fingerprints at 129 Application Support Centers

Each day USCIS remains ready to answer one of the 41,000 phone inquiries

it receives or to assist one of the 12,000 customers at our 87 local offices."

"Many" might be an understatement.

John

Wow thanks for all the stats, that will surely make my "neverending" journey go faster....

Hmm lets see, your timeline cleary states you waited 121 days for your aproval,(I-130) I am at 180+ with out any kind of information, so please spare me.

Uncalled for.

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............ My personal opinion is that all spouses should be handled in a VWP type process (immediate admission to the USA upon marriage and adjust status after SO is here). We allow millions of people into the USA each year on a VWP without six months of background checks. A spouse is treated like a greater threat than a random individual with the right passport...I don't agree with that logic.

Hope you hear something soon!

John

Those VWP entrants are visitors, not immigrants.

I hope the RFE means they're actually processing your case now and that you will soon be approved

going by your timeline, I still have more than one year to wait in this security check black hole :crying:

Not necessarily.

Today I received a letter from my senator. What it states is not very encouraging. It seems they can take how ever long they like to process applications using a perceived security threat as an excuse.

The gist of the story is nothing about excuses. They can and are wise to take as long as it takes to adjudicate a petition if there is a perceived security threat. Thankfully, the completed security checks often show the perception of a potential threat is false resulting in delayed but ultimately approved petitions.

"They" can and are wise to make security checks.

"They" are not wise to take as long as it takes. That's their argument which many senators even find non-sensical. Processing in the name of National Security which is less than timely is hardly secure.

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............ My personal opinion is that all spouses should be handled in a VWP type process (immediate admission to the USA upon marriage and adjust status after SO is here). We allow millions of people into the USA each year on a VWP without six months of background checks. A spouse is treated like a greater threat than a random individual with the right passport...I don't agree with that logic.

Hope you hear something soon!

John

Those VWP entrants are visitors, not immigrants.

I hope the RFE means they're actually processing your case now and that you will soon be approved

going by your timeline, I still have more than one year to wait in this security check black hole :crying:

Not necessarily.

Today I received a letter from my senator. What it states is not very encouraging. It seems they can take how ever long they like to process applications using a perceived security threat as an excuse.

The gist of the story is nothing about excuses. They can and are wise to take as long as it takes to adjudicate a petition if there is a perceived security threat. Thankfully, the completed security checks often show the perception of a potential threat is false resulting in delayed but ultimately approved petitions.

"They" can and are wise to make security checks.

"They" are not wise to take as long as it takes. That's their argument which many senators even find non-sensical. Processing in the name of National Security which is less than timely is hardly secure.

Bravo! Nicely said. I said it before that nobody here minds waiting for a reasonable amount of time for the security checks to be completed. We are all for thorough checks that help keep this country a safe place to live and work. But the way they operate, three months receipting delays for example, inconsistent timelines, lack of correct and up to date information, poor customer service, all of these things make you wonder how reliable is their work? How well are they organized? I hope they are in a better shape than what we can perceive while going thru this unreasonably long and frustrating process.

This sucks more than anything else has ever sucked before.

An October 2007 I-130, I-129F filer.

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............ My personal opinion is that all spouses should be handled in a VWP type process (immediate admission to the USA upon marriage and adjust status after SO is here). We allow millions of people into the USA each year on a VWP without six months of background checks. A spouse is treated like a greater threat than a random individual with the right passport...I don't agree with that logic.

Hope you hear something soon!

John

Those VWP entrants are visitors, not immigrants.

I hope the RFE means they're actually processing your case now and that you will soon be approved

going by your timeline, I still have more than one year to wait in this security check black hole :crying:

Not necessarily.

Today I received a letter from my senator. What it states is not very encouraging. It seems they can take how ever long they like to process applications using a perceived security threat as an excuse.

The gist of the story is nothing about excuses. They can and are wise to take as long as it takes to adjudicate a petition if there is a perceived security threat. Thankfully, the completed security checks often show the perception of a potential threat is false resulting in delayed but ultimately approved petitions.

"They" can and are wise to make security checks.

"They" are not wise to take as long as it takes. That's their argument which many senators even find non-sensical. Processing in the name of National Security which is less than timely is hardly secure.

Of course, faster would be more convenient and even more secure but USCIS delegates the more detailed checks to other federal agencies. As such, USCIS isn't using security checks as an excuse. The time other agencies take to do the security checks is the reason, not excuse for delay.

Focused efforts on changing the priority with which these security checks are performed by the appropriate agencies would be more productive than accusing USCIS of "making excuses."

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there are things you can try in the meantime (to keep you busy) like me..

1) fax different senators, congressmen, atttorney generals, governor, anyone who is related in government.. keep sending/faxing them everyday (and the white house , of course) and bother the hell out of them.. that's how I got a response from the FBI about my security check.. which they said wasn't real..

2) keep making local office infopasses and hunt them down at the local office (well, my case got transferred to the local office..)

3) call them everyday (and more than once, because usually the first person is not helpful).. and go all the way up to the supervisor.. I once got to level 3 (well, 3rd one anyway).. haha, they ask me "do you think your case is over the processing times and 6 months??".. and I said "it's been 14 months already".. and that shut them up real quick.. :angry:

dhobee and ninjarocket.. don't just keep waiting.. I know that you waited a longer time dhobee.. but just keep fighting and don't be afraid.. find different ways to bother them..this is your spouse you are fighting for.. that is why I'm not afraid of them.. I will keep bothering them until they approve my case.. I'm also going next Monday (June 16) to the local office again.. and then make another appointment after that..

here's some to help you guys..

http://www.duluth.lib.mn.us/Databases/Contact/Federal.html

http://www.visaserve.com/CM/Articles/CIS%2...tact%20List.pdf (bother these people a lot)

http://www.ailf.org/lac/pa/lac_pa_081505.pdf (Writ of mandamus)

http://www.visalaw.com/05feb3/2feb305.html

I got more if you want.. haha..

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I-130 STAGE 1 : 533 days - 1 year 6 months (4/16/2007 to 9/22/2008)

Priority Date I-130 : 4/16/2007 ( 533 days , APPROVED 9/22/2008)
Transferred to local office based on "security checks" : 11/27/2007
wrote hundreds of letters - received letter from FBI Records Management Chief stating no security checks
local office interview : 2/21/2008 - brought my parents too (result : you will get approval within 2-3 weeks)

5/2/2008 - (lawsuit) Writ of Mandamus - OFFICIAL DATE (7/29/2008)
9/22/2008 - CALL AND EMAIL COPY OF APPROVAL NOTICE FROM LAWYER

NVC STAGE 2 : 99 days - 3 months (9/30/2008 to 1/7/2009)

NVC Received : 9/30/2008
Received Packet 3 (I-864/DS-230) : 11/10/2008
NVC says "RFE sent out 12/9/08 for missing documents" : 12/10/2008
CASE COMPLETE - 1/7/2009

CONSULATE STAGE 3 : 96 days - 3 months (1/8/2009 to 4/14/2009)
CLEARED CUSTOMS - 3/10/2009
**APPOINTMENT DATE : 4/14/2009, 7:15AM**
** BLUE SLIP **

AP STAGE 4 : 97 days - 3 months (4/14/2009 to 7/20/2009)
DOS call to receive I-601 (Waiver of Grounds for Inadmissibility - basically denial) from Guangzhou : 6/24/2009

REMOVAL OF I-601 due to my letters to the USCIS Director, Michael Aytes: 6/29/2009
CALL-IN LETTER NOTIFIED : 7/8/2009
CALL-IN LETTER (APPROVAL)!! : 7/16/2009
ALL DONE!! (got both GREEN CARD & SSN CARD) : 10/1/2009

"http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/194075-feel-like-a-cr-1-csc-castaway/page-60" (pages 53-63) for more updates and letter I wrote to Director Michael Aytes and his replies and back and forth..

HER PARENTS - 10 months so far

I-130 Sent In : 1/7/2013

I-130 Approval : 3/28/2013

Transfer to NVC : 6/12/2013

Case Complete : 8/25/2013

"Ready for Interview" (Ready to wait for 1-3 Months, this is official NVC letter transfer date) : 9/9/2013

DHL Tracking : arrived 9/24/2013

P4 Letter : 11/21/2013

Interview Date : 12/9/2013, originally 12/3, stupid lawyer filled out her dad's passport number wrong..

Interview Passed : 12/9/2013

Visa "Issued" on CEAC : 12/10/2013

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............ My personal opinion is that all spouses should be handled in a VWP type process (immediate admission to the USA upon marriage and adjust status after SO is here). We allow millions of people into the USA each year on a VWP without six months of background checks. A spouse is treated like a greater threat than a random individual with the right passport...I don't agree with that logic.

Hope you hear something soon!

John

Those VWP entrants are visitors, not immigrants.

I hope the RFE means they're actually processing your case now and that you will soon be approved

going by your timeline, I still have more than one year to wait in this security check black hole :crying:

Not necessarily.

Today I received a letter from my senator. What it states is not very encouraging. It seems they can take how ever long they like to process applications using a perceived security threat as an excuse.

The gist of the story is nothing about excuses. They can and are wise to take as long as it takes to adjudicate a petition if there is a perceived security threat. Thankfully, the completed security checks often show the perception of a potential threat is false resulting in delayed but ultimately approved petitions.

"They" can and are wise to make security checks.

"They" are not wise to take as long as it takes. That's their argument which many senators even find non-sensical. Processing in the name of National Security which is less than timely is hardly secure.

Of course, faster would be more convenient and even more secure but USCIS delegates the more detailed checks to other federal agencies. As such, USCIS isn't using security checks as an excuse. The time other agencies take to do the security checks is the reason, not excuse for delay.

Focused efforts on changing the priority with which these security checks are performed by the appropriate agencies would be more productive than accusing USCIS of "making excuses."

I suppose I can weigh in without fear my timeline will be used against me as my journey has been longer than most ;).

I havent seen any evidence that the security checks overseas are to be sped up citing security as the catalyst. There has been news all over regarding USCIS and lawmakers putting the hammer down on stateside security clearances (applicants for greencards and naturalization although they decided the natz applications would just have to sit).

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also, one more on security checks..

http://usaimmigrationattorney.com/Security...tiveReview.html

then you can understand more about what they check.. if any.. :angry: :angry:

I-130 STAGE 1 : 533 days - 1 year 6 months (4/16/2007 to 9/22/2008)

Priority Date I-130 : 4/16/2007 ( 533 days , APPROVED 9/22/2008)
Transferred to local office based on "security checks" : 11/27/2007
wrote hundreds of letters - received letter from FBI Records Management Chief stating no security checks
local office interview : 2/21/2008 - brought my parents too (result : you will get approval within 2-3 weeks)

5/2/2008 - (lawsuit) Writ of Mandamus - OFFICIAL DATE (7/29/2008)
9/22/2008 - CALL AND EMAIL COPY OF APPROVAL NOTICE FROM LAWYER

NVC STAGE 2 : 99 days - 3 months (9/30/2008 to 1/7/2009)

NVC Received : 9/30/2008
Received Packet 3 (I-864/DS-230) : 11/10/2008
NVC says "RFE sent out 12/9/08 for missing documents" : 12/10/2008
CASE COMPLETE - 1/7/2009

CONSULATE STAGE 3 : 96 days - 3 months (1/8/2009 to 4/14/2009)
CLEARED CUSTOMS - 3/10/2009
**APPOINTMENT DATE : 4/14/2009, 7:15AM**
** BLUE SLIP **

AP STAGE 4 : 97 days - 3 months (4/14/2009 to 7/20/2009)
DOS call to receive I-601 (Waiver of Grounds for Inadmissibility - basically denial) from Guangzhou : 6/24/2009

REMOVAL OF I-601 due to my letters to the USCIS Director, Michael Aytes: 6/29/2009
CALL-IN LETTER NOTIFIED : 7/8/2009
CALL-IN LETTER (APPROVAL)!! : 7/16/2009
ALL DONE!! (got both GREEN CARD & SSN CARD) : 10/1/2009

"http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/194075-feel-like-a-cr-1-csc-castaway/page-60" (pages 53-63) for more updates and letter I wrote to Director Michael Aytes and his replies and back and forth..

HER PARENTS - 10 months so far

I-130 Sent In : 1/7/2013

I-130 Approval : 3/28/2013

Transfer to NVC : 6/12/2013

Case Complete : 8/25/2013

"Ready for Interview" (Ready to wait for 1-3 Months, this is official NVC letter transfer date) : 9/9/2013

DHL Tracking : arrived 9/24/2013

P4 Letter : 11/21/2013

Interview Date : 12/9/2013, originally 12/3, stupid lawyer filled out her dad's passport number wrong..

Interview Passed : 12/9/2013

Visa "Issued" on CEAC : 12/10/2013

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............ My personal opinion is that all spouses should be handled in a VWP type process (immediate admission to the USA upon marriage and adjust status after SO is here). We allow millions of people into the USA each year on a VWP without six months of background checks. A spouse is treated like a greater threat than a random individual with the right passport...I don't agree with that logic.

Hope you hear something soon!

John

Those VWP entrants are visitors, not immigrants.

I hope the RFE means they're actually processing your case now and that you will soon be approved

going by your timeline, I still have more than one year to wait in this security check black hole :crying:

Not necessarily.

Today I received a letter from my senator. What it states is not very encouraging. It seems they can take how ever long they like to process applications using a perceived security threat as an excuse.

The gist of the story is nothing about excuses. They can and are wise to take as long as it takes to adjudicate a petition if there is a perceived security threat. Thankfully, the completed security checks often show the perception of a potential threat is false resulting in delayed but ultimately approved petitions.

"They" can and are wise to make security checks.

"They" are not wise to take as long as it takes. That's their argument which many senators even find non-sensical. Processing in the name of National Security which is less than timely is hardly secure.

Of course, faster would be more convenient and even more secure but USCIS delegates the more detailed checks to other federal agencies. As such, USCIS isn't using security checks as an excuse. The time other agencies take to do the security checks is the reason, not excuse for delay.

Focused efforts on changing the priority with which these security checks are performed by the appropriate agencies would be more productive than accusing USCIS of "making excuses."

I suppose I can weigh in without fear my timeline will be used against me as my journey has been longer than most ;).

I havent seen any evidence that the security checks overseas are to be sped up citing security as the catalyst. There has been news all over regarding USCIS and lawmakers putting the hammer down on stateside security clearances (applicants for greencards and naturalization although they decided the natz applications would just have to sit).

What's a "natz application"?

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naturalization, I think..

I-130 STAGE 1 : 533 days - 1 year 6 months (4/16/2007 to 9/22/2008)

Priority Date I-130 : 4/16/2007 ( 533 days , APPROVED 9/22/2008)
Transferred to local office based on "security checks" : 11/27/2007
wrote hundreds of letters - received letter from FBI Records Management Chief stating no security checks
local office interview : 2/21/2008 - brought my parents too (result : you will get approval within 2-3 weeks)

5/2/2008 - (lawsuit) Writ of Mandamus - OFFICIAL DATE (7/29/2008)
9/22/2008 - CALL AND EMAIL COPY OF APPROVAL NOTICE FROM LAWYER

NVC STAGE 2 : 99 days - 3 months (9/30/2008 to 1/7/2009)

NVC Received : 9/30/2008
Received Packet 3 (I-864/DS-230) : 11/10/2008
NVC says "RFE sent out 12/9/08 for missing documents" : 12/10/2008
CASE COMPLETE - 1/7/2009

CONSULATE STAGE 3 : 96 days - 3 months (1/8/2009 to 4/14/2009)
CLEARED CUSTOMS - 3/10/2009
**APPOINTMENT DATE : 4/14/2009, 7:15AM**
** BLUE SLIP **

AP STAGE 4 : 97 days - 3 months (4/14/2009 to 7/20/2009)
DOS call to receive I-601 (Waiver of Grounds for Inadmissibility - basically denial) from Guangzhou : 6/24/2009

REMOVAL OF I-601 due to my letters to the USCIS Director, Michael Aytes: 6/29/2009
CALL-IN LETTER NOTIFIED : 7/8/2009
CALL-IN LETTER (APPROVAL)!! : 7/16/2009
ALL DONE!! (got both GREEN CARD & SSN CARD) : 10/1/2009

"http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/194075-feel-like-a-cr-1-csc-castaway/page-60" (pages 53-63) for more updates and letter I wrote to Director Michael Aytes and his replies and back and forth..

HER PARENTS - 10 months so far

I-130 Sent In : 1/7/2013

I-130 Approval : 3/28/2013

Transfer to NVC : 6/12/2013

Case Complete : 8/25/2013

"Ready for Interview" (Ready to wait for 1-3 Months, this is official NVC letter transfer date) : 9/9/2013

DHL Tracking : arrived 9/24/2013

P4 Letter : 11/21/2013

Interview Date : 12/9/2013, originally 12/3, stupid lawyer filled out her dad's passport number wrong..

Interview Passed : 12/9/2013

Visa "Issued" on CEAC : 12/10/2013

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Of course, faster would be more convenient and even more secure but USCIS delegates the more detailed checks to other federal agencies. As such, USCIS isn't using security checks as an excuse. The time other agencies take to do the security checks is the reason, not excuse for delay.

Focused efforts on changing the priority with which these security checks are performed by the appropriate agencies would be more productive than accusing USCIS of "making excuses."

Mike -

I'm not accusing USCIS of making excuses. I don't have to do that - they've laid the blame at the feet of the FBI all by themselves.

Neither am I making up the congressional reports and inquiries where the blame is placed squarely on USCIS. While it may be the FBI or other agency that is causing the delay with USCIS security check requests, Department of Homeland Security is the agency ultimately responsible for the task of securing our nation. And USCIS is part of that agency.

Now, since DHS is the second largest department of our government as far as sucking up tax dollars (exceeded only by the Defense Dept.), I'm thinking that blaming the FBI (something they do - not me) is kind of trite.

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Of course, faster would be more convenient and even more secure but USCIS delegates the more detailed checks to other federal agencies. As such, USCIS isn't using security checks as an excuse. The time other agencies take to do the security checks is the reason, not excuse for delay.

Focused efforts on changing the priority with which these security checks are performed by the appropriate agencies would be more productive than accusing USCIS of "making excuses."

Mike -

I'm not accusing USCIS of making excuses. I don't have to do that - they've laid the blame at the feet of the FBI all by themselves.

Neither am I making up the congressional reports and inquiries where the blame is placed squarely on USCIS. While it may be the FBI or other agency that is causing the delay with USCIS security check requests, Department of Homeland Security is the agency ultimately responsible for the task of securing our nation. And USCIS is part of that agency.

Now, since DHS is the second largest department of our government as far as sucking up tax dollars (exceeded only by the Defense Dept.), I'm thinking that blaming the FBI (something they do - not me) is kind of trite.

Which agency is resonsible for the security checks that have been delayed?

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