Russia girls are amazing!

[joelunchbox 0]

Wow Bobalouie, tell me more!! I would never have thought of Oklahoma City as a place to be, but one of the job possibilities for Ritesh is in Oklahoma City, and that housing market alone is appealing! (Plus, it is a centralized jumping off point from which to explore the US!)

I lived in OKC for five years. Five miserable years. The drivers in that city are the worst I have ever had to deal with. I thought for a while it might just be me but my son (born in OKC) had to drive up from TX to OKC and then on to TN. When he got back, he swore he would NEVER drive to/through Oklahoma-in particular, OKC- again.

I don't care how cheap it is to live somewhere, if you are scared/angry every time you get out of your car--IT AIN'T WORTH IT!!!

Texas is slipping too. But you will still come up on a REAL Texan, who will pull onto the shoulder to let you pass. That is good/compassionate driving!

[Bobalouie 0]

Wow Bobalouie, tell me more!! I would never have thought of Oklahoma City as a place to be, but one of the job possibilities for Ritesh is in Oklahoma City, and that housing market alone is appealing! (Plus, it is a centralized jumping off point from which to explore the US!)

I lived in OKC for five years. Five miserable years. The drivers in that city are the worst I have ever had to deal with. I thought for a while it might just be me but my son (born in OKC) had to drive up from TX to OKC and then on to TN. When he got back, he swore he would NEVER drive to/through Oklahoma-in particular, OKC- again.

I don't care how cheap it is to live somewhere, if you are scared/angry every time you get out of your car--IT AIN'T WORTH IT!!!

Texas is slipping too. But you will still come up on a REAL Texan, who will pull onto the shoulder to let you pass. That is good/compassionate driving!

Well, now you know why Texans and Oklahomans dont get along so good. You damn Texans cant drive fast enough to stay out of peoples way!

[joelunchbox 0]

Wow Bobalouie, tell me more!! I would never have thought of Oklahoma City as a place to be, but one of the job possibilities for Ritesh is in Oklahoma City, and that housing market alone is appealing! (Plus, it is a centralized jumping off point from which to explore the US!)

I lived in OKC for five years. Five miserable years. The drivers in that city are the worst I have ever had to deal with. I thought for a while it might just be me but my son (born in OKC) had to drive up from TX to OKC and then on to TN. When he got back, he swore he would NEVER drive to/through Oklahoma-in particular, OKC- again.

I don't care how cheap it is to live somewhere, if you are scared/angry every time you get out of your car--IT AIN'T WORTH IT!!!

Texas is slipping too. But you will still come up on a REAL Texan, who will pull onto the shoulder to let you pass. That is good/compassionate driving!

Well, now you know why Texans and Oklahomans dont get along so good. You damn Texans cant drive fast enough to stay out of peoples way!

Speed has nothing to do with BAD DRIVING. Oh, I didn't mention the almost being run into a guard rail by a diesel...oh forget it. You like it, you can live there. But, next time you drive somewhere--actually think about the drive. I like to enjoy my driving--and I am seldom under the speed limit, either.

I lived in Okinawa for three and half years also--that was heaven compared to OKC. They were good drivers who happened to drive fast and close to other drivers. Oklahoma seems to have a preponderance of REALLY BAD DRIVERS driving fast. Bad situation made worse.

Look around--am I lying?

[slim 1,523]

But you will still come up on a REAL Texan, who will pull onto the shoulder to let you pass. That is good/compassionate driving!

That is the dumbest $#!t in the world. I drove through Texas a couple years back and whenever someone would turn out in front of me, WAAAAY in front of me, they would immediately pull off and drive on the shoulder. (Usually creating a big dust cloud and most often also creating a situation where one car was driving with a tire or two in the dirt and a tire or two on the pavement, swerving in and out of control, just barely staying where they were trying to stay and the other car overtaking them at high speed, now forced to pass within inches.)

If you have time to pull out in front of someone, then you have time to get up to speed. If you don't have time to pull out in front of someone and get up to speed...... WAIT!!!! You can turn after they pass. It works in the other 49 states. It should work in Texas too!

But, then again, half the dumb $#!t they do in Texas is done in a self-imposed attempt to stay "different" than everyone else. (And bigger too. #######?)

I'll always give Texas some leeway (and the shoulder) because of their pro-2A stance. But, if they ever started letting criminals who got shot in victim's homes win lawsuits, I'm afraid I'd have to start putting them in the same boat as SoCal, and nobody wants that, not even Oklahoma. "Same boat as SoCal?...... Now that's just mean."

[Bobalouie 0]

Wow Bobalouie, tell me more!! I would never have thought of Oklahoma City as a place to be, but one of the job possibilities for Ritesh is in Oklahoma City, and that housing market alone is appealing! (Plus, it is a centralized jumping off point from which to explore the US!)

I lived in OKC for five years. Five miserable years. The drivers in that city are the worst I have ever had to deal with. I thought for a while it might just be me but my son (born in OKC) had to drive up from TX to OKC and then on to TN. When he got back, he swore he would NEVER drive to/through Oklahoma-in particular, OKC- again.

I don't care how cheap it is to live somewhere, if you are scared/angry every time you get out of your car--IT AIN'T WORTH IT!!!

Texas is slipping too. But you will still come up on a REAL Texan, who will pull onto the shoulder to let you pass. That is good/compassionate driving!

Well, now you know why Texans and Oklahomans dont get along so good. You damn Texans cant drive fast enough to stay out of peoples way!

Speed has nothing to do with BAD DRIVING. Oh, I didn't mention the almost being run into a guard rail by a diesel...oh forget it. You like it, you can live there. But, next time you drive somewhere--actually think about the drive. I like to enjoy my driving--and I am seldom under the speed limit, either.

I lived in Okinawa for three and half years also--that was heaven compared to OKC. They were good drivers who happened to drive fast and close to other drivers. Oklahoma seems to have a preponderance of REALLY BAD DRIVERS driving fast. Bad situation made worse.

Look around--am I lying?

Wow, almost run into a guard rail by a diesel. Hmm, wonder if he was licenced in OK and lived here, or maybe somewhere else? (You know, since I-40, I-35, and I-44 carry interstate traffic from everywhere) Its not like that kinda stuff doesnt happen everywhere. I dont think OKC is the black hole of diesel accidents involving motorists and gaurd rails.

I think you would be hard pressed to find "good drivers" in any major metro area. I am sure that Atlanta, New York, Miami and even Houston are paragons of driving ability. I actually see about the same number of crashes here as I do in other cities when I travel. I am sure that statistics would show no major difference between OKC and any other place. Sorry you didnt like it here, glad you are in a place you enjoy now.

Edited April 11, 2008 by Bobalouie

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Wow Bobalouie, tell me more!! I would never have thought of Oklahoma City as a place to be, but one of the job possibilities for Ritesh is in Oklahoma City, and that housing market alone is appealing! (Plus, it is a centralized jumping off point from which to explore the US!)

I lived in OKC for five years. Five miserable years. The drivers in that city are the worst I have ever had to deal with. I thought for a while it might just be me but my son (born in OKC) had to drive up from TX to OKC and then on to TN. When he got back, he swore he would NEVER drive to/through Oklahoma-in particular, OKC- again.

I don't care how cheap it is to live somewhere, if you are scared/angry every time you get out of your car--IT AIN'T WORTH IT!!!

Texas is slipping too. But you will still come up on a REAL Texan, who will pull onto the shoulder to let you pass. That is good/compassionate driving!

Joe, my wife learned to drive in OKC and we always are amazed at the dumb things people do. I have lived here for 32 years and am probably used to it, but if you ever want to drive in a bad driver city try New Orleans. I lived there for a year and in New Orleans you have to abide by the 10 second rule in order to avoid an accident, you have to wait ten seconds before you proceed on a green light to avoid the red light runners. As to OKC bad drivers, they are actually very good drivers, they are just avoiding all the potholes in the roads and the other person's car be damned, or their car needs repair and your nice car looks like it might be insured (1 in 4 in Oklahoma aren't so you have to choose your "victim" carefully)!

[eekee 182]

If housing is so cheap, why aren't more people insured drivers?

to avoid an accident, you have to wait ten seconds before you proceed on a green light to avoid the red light runners. As to OKC bad drivers, they are actually very good drivers, they are just avoiding all the potholes in the roads and the other person's car be damned, or their car needs repair and your nice car looks like it might be insured (1 in 4 in Oklahoma aren't so you have to choose your "victim" carefully)!

[joelunchbox 0]

Wow Bobalouie, tell me more!! I would never have thought of Oklahoma City as a place to be, but one of the job possibilities for Ritesh is in Oklahoma City, and that housing market alone is appealing! (Plus, it is a centralized jumping off point from which to explore the US!)

I lived in OKC for five years. Five miserable years. The drivers in that city are the worst I have ever had to deal with. I thought for a while it might just be me but my son (born in OKC) had to drive up from TX to OKC and then on to TN. When he got back, he swore he would NEVER drive to/through Oklahoma-in particular, OKC- again.

I don't care how cheap it is to live somewhere, if you are scared/angry every time you get out of your car--IT AIN'T WORTH IT!!!

Texas is slipping too. But you will still come up on a REAL Texan, who will pull onto the shoulder to let you pass. That is good/compassionate driving!

Well, now you know why Texans and Oklahomans dont get along so good. You damn Texans cant drive fast enough to stay out of peoples way!

Speed has nothing to do with BAD DRIVING. Oh, I didn't mention the almost being run into a guard rail by a diesel...oh forget it. You like it, you can live there. But, next time you drive somewhere--actually think about the drive. I like to enjoy my driving--and I am seldom under the speed limit, either.

I lived in Okinawa for three and half years also--that was heaven compared to OKC. They were good drivers who happened to drive fast and close to other drivers. Oklahoma seems to have a preponderance of REALLY BAD DRIVERS driving fast. Bad situation made worse.

Look around--am I lying?

Wow, almost run into a guard rail by a diesel. Hmm, wonder if he was licenced in OK and lived here, or maybe somewhere else? (You know, since I-40, I-35, and I-44 carry interstate traffic from everywhere) Its not like that kinda stuff doesnt happen everywhere. I dont think OKC is the black hole of diesel accidents involving motorists and gaurd rails.

I think you would be hard pressed to find "good drivers" in any major metro area. I am sure that Atlanta, New York, Miami and even Houston are paragons of driving ability. I actually see about the same number of crashes here as I do in other cities when I travel. I am sure that statistics would show no major difference between OKC and any other place. Sorry you didnt like it here, glad you are in a place you enjoy now.

Didn't have time to look!

There were things I really liked about being near a big city--access to machine shops and stuff (I am a car guy). But the people I worked with in the AF at that time were ....special. And the drivers I encountered daily were --I think a good word is "aggressive". Maybe you don't see it but twenty years ago I did. I try to stay away from atalnta too! I blame it on carpetbaggers. People who don't like where they are at because of the people that live there. So they move somewhere else--but, lo and behold, it was those people that made their former cities so bad..... I try to signal early, stop gradually, not tailgate and most importantly---KNOW WHERE I AM GOING. You would think that last one would be obvious but it ain't. It is aggravating that as cars get better, the drivers seem to be getting worse! Oh my!!

[Okiebollweevil 0]

If housing is so cheap, why aren't more people insured drivers?

to avoid an accident, you have to wait ten seconds before you proceed on a green light to avoid the red light runners. As to OKC bad drivers, they are actually very good drivers, they are just avoiding all the potholes in the roads and the other person's car be damned, or their car needs repair and your nice car looks like it might be insured (1 in 4 in Oklahoma aren't so you have to choose your "victim" carefully)!

I would venture to say that the people that own homes are insured, and those that don't are looking to them for an "accident". Some apartment dwellers (a) don't drive and go shanksmare; (B) don't own cars © do own cars that breakdown frequently; (d) do own cars that they buy monthly insurance premiums for; (e) don't have insurance. Also, Oklahoma does not have mandatory vehicle safety inspection which amazes my wife as Russia does (first aid kit and fire extinguisher) I have seen Russian roads that make Oklahoma's look like the streets of Heaven, my wife constantly lauds our Oklahoma roads which is very humorous to me as I think they suck compared to adjacent states. Lifting a Minnesota joke, there are only two seasons in Russia, winter and road repair with which my wife heartily agrees.

[mox 298]

Eventually this conversation is going to come full circle back to pie, and that's when I'm going to jump in.

[Kazan' Tiger 1]

Only in our little community would you hear all about Oklahoma driving on a thread titled "Russian Girls Are Amazing!"

[Corey-Mariya 14]

Only in our little community would you hear all about Oklahoma driving on a thread titled "Russian Girls Are Amazing!"

Correction: I made a typo when starting the topic. its Russia Girls Are Amazing

[Bobalouie 0]

If housing is so cheap, why aren't more people insured drivers?

to avoid an accident, you have to wait ten seconds before you proceed on a green light to avoid the red light runners. As to OKC bad drivers, they are actually very good drivers, they are just avoiding all the potholes in the roads and the other person's car be damned, or their car needs repair and your nice car looks like it might be insured (1 in 4 in Oklahoma aren't so you have to choose your "victim" carefully)!

Probably because we are spending all our extra cash on sudafed and associated other household goods to keep our meth cooking operation going. Or, we are buying our machine guns to keep the government at bay. Feel free to insert your favorite redneck cliche.

[mox 298]

Probably because we are spending all our extra cash on sudafed and associated other household goods to keep our meth cooking operation going. Or, we are buying our machine guns to keep the government at bay. Feel free to insert your favorite redneck cliche.

Hey everybody needs a hobby!

[Ban Hammer 13,282]

That is the dumbest $#!t in the world. I drove through Texas a couple years back and whenever someone would turn out in front of me, WAAAAY in front of me, they would immediately pull off and drive on the shoulder. (Usually creating a big dust cloud and most often also creating a situation where one car was driving with a tire or two in the dirt and a tire or two on the pavement, swerving in and out of control, just barely staying where they were trying to stay and the other car overtaking them at high speed, now forced to pass within inches.)

If you have time to pull out in front of someone, then you have time to get up to speed. If you don't have time to pull out in front of someone and get up to speed...... WAIT!!!! You can turn after they pass. It works in the other 49 states. It should work in Texas too!

But, then again, half the dumb $#!t they do in Texas is done in a self-imposed attempt to stay "different" than everyone else. (And bigger too. #######?)

I'll always give Texas some leeway (and the shoulder) because of their pro-2A stance. But, if they ever started letting criminals who got shot in victim's homes win lawsuits, I'm afraid I'd have to start putting them in the same boat as SoCal, and nobody wants that, not even Oklahoma. "Same boat as SoCal?...... Now that's just mean."

the individual in the above case would be abusing the idea. it's intended for drivers to do this without creating a hazard and most of the time you'll see it on the farm to market sideroads. often it's a farmer hauling stuff in his pickup. if there is a lot of gravel on the shoulder, one isn't doing the other a favor by pulling over and if one can't maintain the lane and drops off the pavement, that's a great way to create an accident. and, btw, the one pulling over is responsible for making sure the shoulder is clear of bridges

the above - pulling over on the shoulder - is a way for us texans to tell who's from oklahoma btw, as last i heard it's against the law in oklahoma to do this.