She Dumped Me!!

[mox 298]

Serious being the key word.

Well...the OP is at least serious. Completely misguided, but serious. Just because she's playing games (and I'm 95% positive this is the case) doesn't mean he should.

For the guy, it's more of a hypothetical question.... "So what if I was to just drop everything and move there? Would that work for you? That way we could be together!"

She'll either be delighted or kind of hesitant. Instant ID on where the seriousness is.

But again...what if she says "great, let's do it!"? Now the guy has to backpedal, and he looks like the one who isn't serious. I don't see how he could explain that question away to her (his fiancee) as a hypothetical.

And as far as games not being a part of serious relationships.... how do they get started???

Hmmm...I might be guilty of semantics or poor sentence quality. Instead of "serious," maybe I should have said "healthy." Playing games is not part of a healthy relationship.

It's a weird discussion to be having for this particular case, because it's obvious that it's a one-sided relationship. The OP hasn't come to terms with the fact that she is--at best--not serious, and has absolutely no intention of marrying him. My/our comments would be pertinent for a normal relationship that's on the rocks. This relationship isn't just on the rocks, it's completely busted apart on the rocks, and the OP is clinging to a piece of driftwood with an anchor wrapped around his ankle, all the while insisting that not only is he still on a ship, but that there was a ship in the first place. (bad metaphor quota for the week: used.)

[eekee 182]

If a woman really wants to marry you, she wants to marry you and won't listen to her friends. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there was something else going on... maybe a liubovnik. trust me, I'm a woman, and if I loved someone and knew they loved me I wouldn't play these kinds of games.

[Kazan' Tiger 1]

I very much agree with you!

If a woman really wants to marry you, she wants to marry you and won't listen to her friends. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there was something else going on... maybe a liubovnik. trust me, I'm a woman, and if I loved someone and knew they loved me I wouldn't play these kinds of games.

[Jason-Sasha 1]

Like I said before. Sounds to me like there is someone else in the picture that perhaps the OP doesn't know about. A "friend" wouldn't be enough to keep a woman from getting married. But a secret "other" would.

[visaveteran1 33]

I've been taking this all in and I think either this guy is a Satellite wannabe running a good story on us, or a rookie of the lowest order. Either way I don't see how this forum is the right venue to run out this soap opera. There's other web sites for meeting Russian women, match-making, how to date FSU women, and scammers, etc.

I certainly don't see a fiancee visa in this guy's future with this woman should any of this story be true. But I'm betting this guy is laughing his a** off at us folks for responding to this Russian bride "tall tale."

I will also offer that, in my experience, it's unlikely today to find Russian women who think American men are going to dump them on the streets of America or do some kind of "reverse scam." Almost every Russian woman has a friend, relative or colleague who married an American man and had a good result. Yes, there might be envy among the so called "biddies' but Russian women know Russian women...and this woman is no youngster, so she ought to be hip to the ways of pettiness one might encounter in Siberian social circles.

And if they actually had a real meeting in St. Petersburg, usually such a meeting reveals the vibes the couple has going on. If the woman met this guy and still listens to "biddies" and walks away from what might be her one shot for getting out of Siberia...well that does not feel right to me.

On top of that, she has a sick child and I've been to a Siberia hospital...and if my kid was really sick I'd do whatever it takes to get them out of Russia and to the USA. Additionally, Siberia has a very high women to men ratio...so women are beating the bushes to find husbands...certainly not a place to be difficult and cavalier towards a potential American husband for lack of an engagement ring. And how would that expensive ring be delivered anyway? DHL? How romantic!

I try to suspend my disbelief here but it's tough...very tough to buy in on this drama that has story line that changes every few days. Whether BS artist or rookie, maybe we need to offer him some tough love..and say bye bye.

[Jason-Sasha 1]

I've been taking this all in and I think either this guy is a Satellite wannabe running a good story on us, or a rookie of the lowest order. Either way I don't see how this forum is the right venue to run out this soap opera. There's other web sites for meeting Russian women, match-making, how to date FSU women, and scammers, etc.

I certainly don't see a fiancee visa in this guy's future with this woman should any of this story be true. But I'm betting this guy is laughing his a** off at us folks for responding to this Russian bride "tall tale."

I will also offer that, in my experience, it's unlikely today to find Russian women who think American men are going to dump them on the streets of America or do some kind of "reverse scam." Almost every Russian woman has a friend, relative or colleague who married an American man and had a good result. Yes, there might be envy among the so called "biddies' but Russian women know Russian women...and this woman is no youngster, so she ought to be hip to the ways of pettiness one might encounter in Siberian social circles.

And if they actually had a real meeting in St. Petersburg, usually such a meeting reveals the vibes the couple has going on. If the woman met this guy and still listens to "biddies" and walks away from what might be her one shot for getting out of Siberia...well that does not feel right to me.

On top of that, she has a sick child and I've been to a Siberia hospital...and if my kid was really sick I'd do whatever it takes to get them out of Russia and to the USA. Additionally, Siberia has a very high women to men ratio...so women are beating the bushes to find husbands...certainly not a place to be difficult and cavalier towards a potential American husband for lack of an engagement ring. And how would that expensive ring be delivered anyway? DHL? How romantic!

I try to suspend my disbelief here but it's tough...very tough to buy in on this drama that has story line that changes every few days. Whether BS artist or rookie, maybe we need to offer him some tough love..and say bye bye.

Well Damn! My man just laid the hammer down!

[Kazan' Tiger 1]

KaBOOM-!!!

I've been taking this all in and I think either this guy is a Satellite wannabe running a good story on us, or a rookie of the lowest order. Either way I don't see how this forum is the right venue to run out this soap opera. There's other web sites for meeting Russian women, match-making, how to date FSU women, and scammers, etc.

I certainly don't see a fiancee visa in this guy's future with this woman should any of this story be true. But I'm betting this guy is laughing his a** off at us folks for responding to this Russian bride "tall tale."

I will also offer that, in my experience, it's unlikely today to find Russian women who think American men are going to dump them on the streets of America or do some kind of "reverse scam." Almost every Russian woman has a friend, relative or colleague who married an American man and had a good result. Yes, there might be envy among the so called "biddies' but Russian women know Russian women...and this woman is no youngster, so she ought to be hip to the ways of pettiness one might encounter in Siberian social circles.

And if they actually had a real meeting in St. Petersburg, usually such a meeting reveals the vibes the couple has going on. If the woman met this guy and still listens to "biddies" and walks away from what might be her one shot for getting out of Siberia...well that does not feel right to me.

On top of that, she has a sick child and I've been to a Siberia hospital...and if my kid was really sick I'd do whatever it takes to get them out of Russia and to the USA. Additionally, Siberia has a very high women to men ratio...so women are beating the bushes to find husbands...certainly not a place to be difficult and cavalier towards a potential American husband for lack of an engagement ring. And how would that expensive ring be delivered anyway? DHL? How romantic!

I try to suspend my disbelief here but it's tough...very tough to buy in on this drama that has story line that changes every few days. Whether BS artist or rookie, maybe we need to offer him some tough love..and say bye bye.

Well Damn! My man just laid the hammer down!

[B'sA 0]

Beata dumped me because her friends fed her a line of bull about me leaving her stranded or alone. She called our life together a dream which would not be a reality. She hurt me so much when she broke up with me. She had decided weeks ago but decided to wait until after she got her Woman's Day gift. I would have given her all I had. The worst thing she took from me was my heart.

t's just so mean.

But hey, think that you probably got rid of a pain in the a$$ now, before you got married to her and things would get more complicated,

You know, it's not even her friend's fault.When you're inlove and you have faith in your loved one you know not to listen this B S..tt

comming from people that are not really designed to give advises.

Not to feel frustrated you can be angry REALLY ANGRY .

how far did you go ewiht her?

[~Laura and Nick~ 5]

Stop, panty time!

[Jason-Sasha 1]

Beata dumped me because her friends fed her a line of bull about me leaving her stranded or alone. She called our life together a dream which would not be a reality. She hurt me so much when she broke up with me. She had decided weeks ago but decided to wait until after she got her Woman's Day gift. I would have given her all I had. The worst thing she took from me was my heart.

t's just so mean.

But hey, think that you probably got rid of a pain in the a$$ now, before you got married to her and things would get more complicated,

You know, it's not even her friend's fault.When you're inlove and you have faith in your loved one you know not to listen this B S..tt

comming from people that are not really designed to give advises.

Not to feel frustrated you can be angry REALLY ANGRY .

how far did you go ewiht her?

Ahhh yes......This reminds me of a few conversations I was involved in, one way or another, back in the 9th grade. I wanted to score a homerun so bad, I even joined the school's baseball team! and you know, I turned out to be pretty damn good at it!

I hope I didn't offend BryantAliona. There was absolutely nothing wrong with their post. I just couldn't resist.

Stop, panty time!

YAY!!! I panty time!

[Madzia+James 0]

I'm sorry,

sorry to be the harsh voice of reason here, but if she is taking her friend's word over yours, she doesn't love you....

I hate to say it... but TRUST ME ON THIS ONE... As much as it hurts right now, and believe me I know it hurts, I've been there..

...I don't mean to be harsh or cruel, but you need to walk away.... with your dignity intact... find a girl who will love you unconditionally...

...Take my advice with a grain of salt, it is only my opinion... I hope it works out for the best, no matter what you decide...

[Ban Hammer 13,283]

another late arrival.

[groovlstk 0]

They, the biddies, have convinced her that I will bring her here and dump her on the streets. Now, why would I spend so much money and just do that?

Why is it so difficult for guys to read the 38-point, boldfaced writing on the wall? This woman does not love you, she does not even like you, she has no respect for you. If you continue down this path with her you'll be milked for everything she can get from you and then finally tossed aside. Her behavior isn't something that stems from cultural differences or because her friends have brainwashed her. (Quite the opposite, really: I'd bet my next paycheck that her girlfriends admire and envy her for the way she has played you. Only a virtuoso could treat a guy like garbage and then have him crawling back for more.)

We each have our own standards.

We sure do.

[visaveteran1 33]

Since my post (see post #80) our friend, kd4uvc, disappeared. Anyone surprised?

[Kazan' Tiger 1]

Not in the least!

Since my post (see post #80) our friend, kd4uvc, disappeared. Anyone surprised?