Yardies, at home and a farrin' (Part 6)

[Islandwoman 0]

You know you are right about getting back in the bed. The car will be fine! My man is HOME!!

On the topic of your man hanging out and going to clubs til wee hours of the morning. I honestly never felt upset Dwayne would tell me all about where they were going and then call during the party to tell me what he was doing and then on his way home. I never asked him to do this but he just did to let me know how I could trust him.

Honestly, my biggest issues I had was when I would call and he would be playing dominoes. I could hear him slapping them on the table and talking one or two word answers to me and it made me mad as hell. Then my sis had a heart to heart and was like so what him fi do while him past di time to see ya again. She reminded me that he doesn't get mad when I call him and tell him I'm hanging out with her or my girlfriends. His dominoes is the same thing him hanging out with friends. It made sense. If I were hanging out with friends my conversation with him would be shortened too.

Feel better Sus!

Alright I'm leaving now to get back inna di bed.

Congrats Wakey!! Get back to bed... but thanks for checking in with us - especially those who are living through everyone else's life right now waiting for our time to come.

I don't want him to call me when he is at a party or hanging with friends, just for the reason that his attention is not mine. I don't like the noise blasting in my ears so other than quick phone calls during the day, we don't really talk until we both have time to give each other undivided attention. He knows what time is bedtime for my kids so if he gets home from work late he will give a quick call to say goodnight to them, and then I call him later when the house is quiet.

I think everyone just has to find what works for them in their particular relationship, while being respectful to each other. Just like the old couple told Lawny and Marcel in the park, Respect, Trust and Love (and I'm throwing Communication in there too) are the most important things in a relationship.

[Jengles 0]

dang you guys are all writing books this morning, ugh and i'm so trying to keep up but it seems like i always got to run out...

mrs scott - mr jengs said he soon go and tell everyone to kiss dem bloodclaat...it seem to be always something, and some of dem nuh realize they would be far better off if they kept their mouth shut, cause he'll say this week I'm going to send so and so money on friday and by weds they calling with a story...it's not like his kids are starving and he send dem money on a regular...the best was last week when somebody wanted $40.00 U.S for cab fare....

[TRELAWNY PARISH 10]

dang you guys are all writing books this morning, ugh and i'm so trying to keep up but it seems like i always got to run out...

mrs scott - mr jengs said he soon go and tell everyone to kiss dem bloodclaat...it seem to be always something, and some of dem nuh realize they would be far better off if they kept their mouth shut, cause he'll say this week I'm going to send so and so money on friday and by weds they calling with a story...it's not like his kids are starving and he send dem money on a regular...the best was last week when somebody wanted $40.00 U.S for cab fare....

What's up sexy JENGS;

You've have got to be kidding me.

[dancehallquana 5]

For the life of me I cannot and will not drink Guiness...it makes me want to throw up if I even smell it. I think that and ALOEVERA juice is the WORST tasting thing in the planet.

mi cyann manage dat stuff eidda Tre..

RG swears by it and not dis Guinness here in the States, dat dere, jus arite, but the JA Guinness him a sey di best Trus mi LOL

I think he says Trus me 20 times a day LOL

I HATE that stuff! I couldn't stand to even taste it on A's lips. Well, I tried to be the good little girlfriend while he was in Calgary. I looked all over the web for a place that would deliver Guinness to his house. I bought enough for him to share with his roommates so they could all have a small piece of yaad. It was gift wrapped and had a note saying "Share a small piece of yaad with yuh bredrin. Love you babes...soon come...LeeLee"...

His roommates were all excited and couldn't wait for him to get home from work. They all popped a bottle and spit it out immediately. NOT THE SAME AS YAAD! He loved the thought so much though he kept the empty bottle and re-wrapped it with the gift bow so he could remember. We shared a good laugh about it...but I was hurt that my idea didn't work so well.

AWWW jawi, great idea though.. who would have known all Guinness is not alike!! LOL

[jawi876 2]

Congrats Wakey!! Get back to bed... but thanks for checking in with us - especially those who are living through everyone else's life right now waiting for our time to come.

I don't want him to call me when he is at a party or hanging with friends, just for the reason that his attention is not mine. I don't like the noise blasting in my ears so other than quick phone calls during the day, we don't really talk until we both have time to give each other undivided attention. He knows what time is bedtime for my kids so if he gets home from work late he will give a quick call to say goodnight to them, and then I call him later when the house is quiet.

I think everyone just has to find what works for them in their particular relationship, while being respectful to each other. Just like the old couple told Lawny and Marcel in the park, Respect, Trust and Love (and I'm throwing Communication in there too) are the most important things in a relationship.

I absolutely love when A calls during a party. He will hold the phone up for me to hear the tunes...and we "dance" together. We BOTH love music and we can talk hours about our favorite artists...he would even put me on speaker phone in the middle of the table and let me "hang" out with him and his boys slapping dominoes. Love those "dates" and the memories. He loves when his friends tell him "Yo mi yout yuh gyal sell hoff...har vibes gwaan easy fe tru!"

I would sit and chat about music with Dwane and his friends for hours on end...debates...laughs the whole nine....pulling up the same tune over and over again. Wakey would come out...look at all of us in sheer confusion...shake her head and go back inside to her movies or jazz music. LOL

We were at Amnesia one night...and we all had our gun fingers in the air...we started walking out for Aidonia...and she was like WTH???

[TRELAWNY PARISH 10]

For the life of me I cannot and will not drink Guiness...it makes me want to throw up if I even smell it. I think that and ALOEVERA juice is the WORST tasting thing in the planet.

mi cyann manage dat stuff eidda Tre..

RG swears by it and not dis Guinness here in the States, dat dere, jus arite, but the JA Guinness him a sey di best Trus mi LOL

I think he says Trus me 20 times a day LOL

I HATE that stuff! I couldn't stand to even taste it on A's lips. Well, I tried to be the good little girlfriend while he was in Calgary. I looked all over the web for a place that would deliver Guinness to his house. I bought enough for him to share with his roommates so they could all have a small piece of yaad. It was gift wrapped and had a note saying "Share a small piece of yaad with yuh bredrin. Love you babes...soon come...LeeLee"...

His roommates were all excited and couldn't wait for him to get home from work. They all popped a bottle and spit it out immediately. NOT THE SAME AS YAAD! He loved the thought so much though he kept the empty bottle and re-wrapped it with the gift bow so he could remember. We shared a good laugh about it...but I was hurt that my idea didn't work so well.

AWWW jawi, great idea though.. who would have known all Guinness is not alike!! LOL

Mawnin Quanna;

Not all APPLETON taste the same. I love mixing that with soy milk

[dancehallquana 5]

okay, y'all so tell me if im wrong.... I am PMS'ing and kind of moody....LOL....

Anyhoo, so D calls me today, sounding like something the cat ran over, so i ask what is wrong with you? He told me he was going to a pool party in his district last night, with his brothers, so no big deal he normally goes and leaves around 130 since he has to work in the morning. Well he says, " me and mi brudda's didnt leave until 400 in the morning!!!! i know i should have left, but mi brudda's wasnt ready fi go.

I said, well first of all, i dont care if your rass is tired, serves you right and secondly we ave a saying here in the states, the only ting open afta two o clock is some legs!!!!!...so anyway he doesnt understand why im pissed, I know JA's normally party until the rooster crows, but dyam.... AM i being unreasonable?????

I know u are probably way past this by now honey but "nuh worry chile", I have to tell u that when I hit my dancehall spots here, they close at 4am and I am there mashing up ti place till di end. Don't forget most of them don't start partying till 12 or 1 anyway Pure fun and dancing dats it.. mi tek off mi dancing shoes and go home BY MYSELF.

Its scary to think about what COULD be happening miles away, but I am sure if u have devoted so much to this LDR, u really do trust him to be a good man with you as well as away from u, so don't let that fear creep in. I know it will sometimes, but just push it right back LOL

[*JG* 2]

Honey; I'd have to agree with Jawi on the trust. Marcel would go out with his friends and be out until 6 or later. They usually leave the club and go to a street dance. I NEVER had any issues with it and he never and still does not have any issues with me hanghing with my girls. In November while we were at Pier One this girl from England tried to push her big behind on him...he'd move and she'd move. His friends and I were watching and cracking up, so you know what I had to do...walk over there and show her who had the biggest BAXIDE. We didn't see her for the rest of the night. He says women alway try him... Like my husband say, you have to know what you want when you start a relationship. For someone as young as he is, the things that come out of his mouth just make me say wow...this is why I love this man. He has values when it comes to love, life, family and friends and that's why I love him so much. He also reminds me of my father. My dad didn't have much growing up, but managed to make it on his own and did very well. My father said if he had to walk from one end of othe world to the other end to make sure his family was saf, healthy and happy...he would do it.

Jawi -- you not joking about the men in ATL...OMG...girl don't get me started. If my cell phone was able to take pictures or record videos back in the day. I've also learned that I'm not going to just settle for the best in a man...I want a make who can not only rock my world, but give me something to appreciate at the end of the day.

Women will always say that we won't let a man stress us...that we will not put up with it...and we don't have a problem walking away. Then, we discuss it with our man...draw our lines in the sand...I will not tolerate "this...ray tay tay". Well, our man forgets the line in the sand...or he doesn't care because he is going to do what he wants to do anyway. What do we do? Argue...cry...nag...then draw another "shaky" line in the sand a little further away from the first.

That being said...Honeychild, I'm not picking on you...you are just convenient because your discontent is more recent (love you babes). Have a real conversation with D...no jokes...no trying to soften the blow or prove that you are "a cool and understanding girlfriend". Let him know what are breaking points for you...what will make you uncomfortable trusting him. Only you know what you can and can't tolerate. You guys need to discuss what happens when he violates that trust. You can still be the mad cool girlfriend/fiancee, and stand your ground on agreed upon boundaries. If you don't want him to come in at 4 in the morning...tell him just that.

Unfortunately, you can't do that by "joking through the issues"...I don't you are really resolving them because then you post here afterwards that you are still pissed...PMS'ng...etc.

A once told me (actually a lot of guy friends have) that I think like a man about relationships. Well, A and I had the discussion about infidelity. He tried that mess about men being men and getting weak...and sometimes thinking they "need to explore new territory". I said very calmly "I totally understand human nature...being attracted to someone outside of the relationship. However, if you decide to explore new territory or old trodden down past territory in this relationship...remember I approach relationships JUST like a man." Nuff said.

Jomo and I had a discussion a while back about this topic. Any type of infidelity is a breaking point for her. For me...it may be/ it may not...depends entirely on the situation. I have never been one of those women that got jealous over a man going out with his friends...or needing constant communication all day to assure me that I could trust him. I approach relationships with men and women the same...I will trust you completely until you show me otherwise that you can't be trusted. Yeah...I've been hurt and disappointed a lot this way...but it's just my nature. Now, it doesn't make me a fool or gullible...because I'm not going to be a fool for anyone. I will call a spade a spade all day everyday. Many have found themselves coming up short by taking my kindness for weakness.

What the hell am I talking about? Geez...rambling.

I've missed you so, Jawi.

Yes, infidelity is the breaking point for me. I am comfortable enough with myself to know what I will and won't put up with and infidelity is the one thing I will never even consider putting up with. I'm worth so much more then that and if he can't see it, that is his problem.

I do not think a man going out with friends to parties and dancing necessarily indicates infidelity, though. I think there are many respectable men (and women for that matter) who go out with friends all the time and keep their hands to themselves. Infidelity for me involves actions as well as emotions sometimes. Dancing and partying is not in the category for me. Although, I do admit, there are things that do cross the line while dancing and partying that could make me put it in the infidelity category.

Honey, you have to really think about what is your breaking point(s), voice them, and stick to your guns. They will be different for each of us.

[dancehallquana 5]

I told my MOL about all the bills that had to be paid. She doesn't seem to get it. She has not asked for any favors in a few months. Then, all of a sudden she needs money & right away. I swear I'm gonna change the friggin number. Money doesn't grow on trees. Has she considered all the funds spent on the immigration process? I really like her & I don't want to be disrespectful. When I told her that I don't have it, her reply was to ask my husband. She has a lot of nerve. Other than NO, what is the politically correct way to get my point across to her?

that is hard for me too mrs scott.. I am too nice for my own good SOMETIMES

I wouldn't want to be in your situation, there is not that many NICE ways u can say no, after the first few times, she is gonna force u into going bad on her, unwillingly of course..

[*JG* 2]

Honey; I'd have to agree with Jawi on the trust. Marcel would go out with his friends and be out until 6 or later. They usually leave the club and go to a street dance. I NEVER had any issues with it and he never and still does not have any issues with me hanghing with my girls. In November while we were at Pier One this girl from England tried to push her big behind on him...he'd move and she'd move. His friends and I were watching and cracking up, so you know what I had to do...walk over there and show her who had the biggest BAXIDE. We didn't see her for the rest of the night. He says women alway try him... Like my husband say, you have to know what you want when you start a relationship. For someone as young as he is, the things that come out of his mouth just make me say wow...this is why I love this man. He has values when it comes to love, life, family and friends and that's why I love him so much. He also reminds me of my father. My dad didn't have much growing up, but managed to make it on his own and did very well. My father said if he had to walk from one end of othe world to the other end to make sure his family was saf, healthy and happy...he would do it.

Jawi -- you not joking about the men in ATL...OMG...girl don't get me started. If my cell phone was able to take pictures or record videos back in the day. I've also learned that I'm not going to just settle for the best in a man...I want a make who can not only rock my world, but give me something to appreciate at the end of the day.

Women will always say that we won't let a man stress us...that we will not put up with it...and we don't have a problem walking away. Then, we discuss it with our man...draw our lines in the sand...I will not tolerate "this...ray tay tay". Well, our man forgets the line in the sand...or he doesn't care because he is going to do what he wants to do anyway. What do we do? Argue...cry...nag...then draw another "shaky" line in the sand a little further away from the first.

That being said...Honeychild, I'm not picking on you...you are just convenient because your discontent is more recent (love you babes). Have a real conversation with D...no jokes...no trying to soften the blow or prove that you are "a cool and understanding girlfriend". Let him know what are breaking points for you...what will make you uncomfortable trusting him. Only you know what you can and can't tolerate. You guys need to discuss what happens when he violates that trust. You can still be the mad cool girlfriend/fiancee, and stand your ground on agreed upon boundaries. If you don't want him to come in at 4 in the morning...tell him just that.

Unfortunately, you can't do that by "joking through the issues"...I don't you are really resolving them because then you post here afterwards that you are still pissed...PMS'ng...etc.

A once told me (actually a lot of guy friends have) that I think like a man about relationships. Well, A and I had the discussion about infidelity. He tried that mess about men being men and getting weak...and sometimes thinking they "need to explore new territory". I said very calmly "I totally understand human nature...being attracted to someone outside of the relationship. However, if you decide to explore new territory or old trodden down past territory in this relationship...remember I approach relationships JUST like a man." Nuff said.

Jomo and I had a discussion a while back about this topic. Any type of infidelity is a breaking point for her. For me...it may be/ it may not...depends entirely on the situation. I have never been one of those women that got jealous over a man going out with his friends...or needing constant communication all day to assure me that I could trust him. I approach relationships with men and women the same...I will trust you completely until you show me otherwise that you can't be trusted. Yeah...I've been hurt and disappointed a lot this way...but it's just my nature. Now, it doesn't make me a fool or gullible...because I'm not going to be a fool for anyone. I will call a spade a spade all day everyday. Many have found themselves coming up short by taking my kindness for weakness.

What the hell am I talking about? Geez...rambling.

Tell it...it's not rambling...keep talking. Some woman say they can and will forgive a man for cheating, but can you really ever trust him again. I say, NO. For, me, it would always be in the back of my mind and that would just break me down mentally. So, JAWI...u naw tell mi more bout di man dem a ATL

I think that's why I have my stance....I could never forget,

HEY FAM!!

He is here and man I didn't think I would ever stop smilng. We didn't get all sloppy at the airport with the kiss. I think he couldn't believe the # of people. I haven't asked for all the POE details I will get back to you after I interview him on what happened. They did give him the bottom part of his I-94 back as they should. He was very quiet and just looking around on the way home from the airport but once he got in the house and got settled we were back to our normal talkative selves.

So we were just staring at each other , their were some tears of happiness shed. I made him some meatloaf and he really liked it. We had a glass of white zinfandel something he has never tried. He said he liked it but it's different from how their wine taste.

Only thing is he thinks the airconditioning in the house was too cold so I ended up cutting it off. Lawd what mi fi do without mi air. Other thing is my dog Mckenzie a Shi Tzu fell in love with him on first glance and now won't leave his side. He normally sleeps at the foot of the bed but last night he kept creeping up to sleep next to Dwayne. I keep having to move him and he was being stubborn and tried to make his body heavy so I couldn't lift him. We will see how this goes but I think his little but is gonna have to start sleeping in his own bed.

The ENTIRE evening was the bomb ! I am blessed beyond measure to have him home. When your SO comes home it will be pure magic

He is still asleep but I will send him ya'll good love and vibes.

Oh guess what the check engine light in my car came back on when going to pick him up. Now, we have to drop our plans to day to go back to repair shop. I'm major P O'd

Girl, STAY home FORGET THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT....it's proably your gas tank cover (make sure it's on tight)....get back in bed. I told you that would be the best feeling to have him home. My husband don't like the airconditioning either, but he'll get use to it Wakey. Give him a few weeks. I'm so happy for you.

You know you are right about getting back in the bed. The car will be fine! My man is HOME!!

On the topic of your man hanging out and going to clubs til wee hours of the morning. I honestly never felt upset Dwayne would tell me all about where they were going and then call during the party to tell me what he was doing and then on his way home. I never asked him to do this but he just did to let me know how I could trust him.

Honestly, my biggest issues I had was when I would call and he would be playing dominoes. I could hear him slapping them on the table and talking one or two word answers to me and it made me mad as hell. Then my sis had a heart to heart and was like so what him fi do while him past di time to see ya again. She reminded me that he doesn't get mad when I call him and tell him I'm hanging out with her or my girlfriends. His dominoes is the same thing him hanging out with friends. It made sense. If I were hanging out with friends my conversation with him would be shortened too.

Feel better Sus!

Alright I'm leaving now to get back inna di bed.

My thing would be to call me back when you are done. Cause I am not paying for a phone call if you are talking to someone else.

[*JG* 2]

dang you guys are all writing books this morning, ugh and i'm so trying to keep up but it seems like i always got to run out...

mrs scott - mr jengs said he soon go and tell everyone to kiss dem bloodclaat...it seem to be always something, and some of dem nuh realize they would be far better off if they kept their mouth shut, cause he'll say this week I'm going to send so and so money on friday and by weds they calling with a story...it's not like his kids are starving and he send dem money on a regular...the best was last week when somebody wanted $40.00 U.S for cab fare....

What's up sexy JENGS;

You've have got to be kidding me.

I've had requests of money for a car, a computer, and a plane ticket. Yeah, I can see you are dying without those things. I cuss like a sailor when the phone rings.

[LIFE'SJOURNEY 970]

I know being MAD is easier than saying how lonely we are for our SO. HoneyChild in reference to the other post you posted about do any of our SO talk about going back home after they have been here a while. Yes, Joe and I have talked about it and we want to go back and live in JA, after he has been here 10 to 15 years, or maybe sooner. He told me when we first met that he would want to raise his children in JA. Now, that maybe another discussion we need to have.

I see changes to happen in JA, I know others don't think it's going happen, but I believe it will. I want us to be a part of that change. I look at what is happen in JA now, and I look at the history of the USA and other countries and they all have gone through these same economical situations.

Roxcie

It's not just the economics for me at this point. It's the violence. Things I have been reading lately are comparing this time to the 70's in Jamaica. That is just scary.

There are a few other factors as well.

Jomo, if we read our newspaper we have the same amount of crime, its just spread over a larger territory.

Roxcie

[Mrs. Palmer 5]

Mawnin yaardies! Yall are up and at 'em early this morning! Well, as far as me trusting my husband when he goes out...I do without a doubt. Heck, he doesn't go out often, and when he does he's a wallflower (yes, I married a Jamaican wallflower--go figure! ) Even when I'm there and we go to parties or dances, he just holds the wall up with a got Guinness in his hand...god bless 'em...Mi haffi whine up pon him or he won't move at all. He prefers to watch me dance...4 him And the 2 or 3 guys that he will go to a party with are married and are really good with their wives and families. He learned a long time ago that a lot of his single friends were really up 2 no good...because they were single, and he knew he wasn't about that, so he made the decision to not hang with them outside of work. He didn't want to be associated with anything they were doing. He's done a lot of growing over the years that I've known him, as have I, and I know that we will continue to do so. I agree with what someone else said..it's about being honest and communicating your true feelings with him. Put it all out there on the table and listen to one another...

One love ladies!

Hey Dwayne!! Wakey...yuh no come up fi air?

[dancehallquana 5]

Your right Roxcie, it kind of bothers me, but what can i do but lash out....i know im wrong, but im still mad i do miss him and i know that he had a life b4 me in JA, It has never bothered me before but for some reasong today, it is pissing me off.

You know what Honey..when hubby and I were 1st dating this would happen and I would flip the hell out! I mean, here I was in the house at a decent hour and he is at some yaard party til damn near 6 am!! After a while I explained to him why I was so angry--for me it was moreso being worried about what kind of crazies were out there, and making sure he didn't get caught up in any foolishness...so, HE came up with the plan that he would call throughout the party, call when he was about to leave, and call when he got home. I didn't even suggest this--he came up with this plan all on his own!! And trust me when I said he followed the plan to a "T"--no matter what time it was, his silly ####### would call to let me know what was going on at the party, when he was leaving, yadayadayada...Now, he definitely doesn't go out as much like he used to b4 he was married, and even when he does he's in alot earlier, and since I know his core group of people (and they are good people), I don't worry as much. But trust me, I still have my days sometimes...Hang in there girlie!!

...or maybe "New Topic".

This post just made me wonder. So the party is a big deal in JA. Music and beats are always going. Some place is always having a party and the dance style is always "bubblin". What do you ladies (married or engaged), think of your men going to these parties and dancing/bubblin with other girls? Its just dancing, but the way that folks dance in JA vs the way that they dance here is quite different at times. Yet for many folks in JA the "bubblin", is just normal...nothing less nothing more.

Assuming that your man still goes out to the local party every now and then and may get asked to dance, or may not want to hold up the wall all night when he start to feel the vibes (which is probably hard to do cause the music is fiyah an sure to mek yuh baddy move), is it cool for him to dance with other girls?

Mi naw worry - him can't dance!! I think it just gets down to the trust issue. They do party and dance much different than we do here, but like you say that's the way it is and what they are used to so they don't look at it like we do. If you trust him/her and have faith in your relationship, it's just a party. And I can bet they are doing same as us when we party - wishing we were there with them while they party!

I'm no so sure about them not looking at it like we do. I have EXPERIENCED one TOO MANY...ERRR... you know from "bubblin" with men I never cared to know that intimately. One guy even buss ile inna im pants and had to leave the party...VOMIT needless to say I used to love those white shorts. I also beg to differ about it being just a dance for them. Jonesie and I could never understand that if you decide to dance with someone...why do they always "marry" you after the dance?

Basically, you then become their territory...their wifey....no other man better approach you the entire night. *kiss teet* I prefer to dance alone if I'm not with my man...but that is NOT going to happen if yuh come from farrin. i have seen Jamaican women dancing their A** off all night...and men will not even approach. It pisses me off to no end. I am not your free ride to farrin...lay off my a**!

I went to Jus Cheers one night...with Jonesie and Mr. Jonesie...two men started fighting over which one was going to have the chance to "bubble" with me. I mean a real fist fight...then a gun went off...and we hauled a** out of there...the gun was a police officer showing off...totally unrelated to the fight.

Whenever mi ago.. i make a point NOT to dance w/ the same one ALL night, u get 2 songs at the most, I give u a hug and thank u for the dance and then I am off to buss a whine w/ someone else..

mi cyaan stand dat "territorial" stuff, when dey hang on too long, I go to the bathroom and come back to another side of the place. LOL

You right sometimes they will get a lil aggressive, but I never have had it get too out of hand thank God.. I dance w/ whoever and it nuh mean a ting cuz i just like to dance. I am a woman though so I guess I can't vouch for the men, but since I do it, I would trust my man if he did too.

Sorry fa all mi chatting and nuh even greet heverybody..

MAWNING ALL

[*JG* 2]

I know being MAD is easier than saying how lonely we are for our SO. HoneyChild in reference to the other post you posted about do any of our SO talk about going back home after they have been here a while. Yes, Joe and I have talked about it and we want to go back and live in JA, after he has been here 10 to 15 years, or maybe sooner. He told me when we first met that he would want to raise his children in JA. Now, that maybe another discussion we need to have.

I see changes to happen in JA, I know others don't think it's going happen, but I believe it will. I want us to be a part of that change. I look at what is happen in JA now, and I look at the history of the USA and other countries and they all have gone through these same economical situations.

Roxcie

It's not just the economics for me at this point. It's the violence. Things I have been reading lately are comparing this time to the 70's in Jamaica. That is just scary.

There are a few other factors as well.

Jomo, if we read our newspaper we have the same amount of crime, its just spread over a larger territory.

Roxcie

I know that. I'm not saying we don't. I would not choose to live in an area where those things are so prelevant no matter where it was in the world.