Any K-3 Approvals if you filed August 2007 or after?

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Names I-130 I-130 I-129F I-129F I-129F I-130 I-129f Updated

Sent NOA1 Sent NOA1 NOA2 NOA2 NOA1toNOA2 Last

KD & AB 7/16/2007 7/26/2007 7/16/2007 8/25/2007 2/13/2008 2/13/2008 172 /12/2008

ax & axel 6/4/2007 7/12/2007 7/14/2007 9/21/2007 2/1/2008 2/1/2008 133 2/24/2008

suany & bob 6/13/2007 6/26/2007 7/24/2007 8/27/2007 1/30/2008 1/30/2008 156 2/2/2008

Thawai & D 6/12/2007 6/20/2007 6/29/2007 7/24/2007 1/30/2008 1/30/2008 190 1/30/2008

Dora & Jam 5/11/2007 5/18/2007 7/6/2007 7/12/2007 1/30/2008 1/30/2008 202 2/24/2008

Lucie & Gr 7/5/2007 7/19/2007 7/23/2007 7/25/2007 1/29/2008 1/29/2008 188 2/25/2008

Lanre & 5/25/2007 6/21/2007 6/22/2007 7/2/2007 1/24/2008 7/16/2007 206 2/23/2008

Natasha & 6/6/2007 6/19/2007 7/1/2007 7/6/2007 1/23/2008 1/23/2008 201 2/13/2008

Yijin 6/1/2007 6/19/2007 7/1/2007 7/6/2007 1/17/2008 1/17/2008 195 1/25/2008

chioma 5/30/2007 6/20/2007 6/29/2007 7/10/2007 1/15/2008 1/15/2008 189 1/28/2008

Ose & 6/7/2007 6/11/2007 7/27/2007 7/30/2007 1/15/2008 1/15/2008 169 2/6/2008

Gloria & 5/26/2007 6/7/2007 7/19/2007 8/27/2007 1/11/2008 1/11/2008 137 1/22/2008

Nab & Em 4/26/2007 5/25/2007 4/26/2007 5/25/2007 1/10/2008 1/10/2008 230 2/18/2008

Adewunmi 5/17/2007 6/12/2007 8/14/2007 8/27/2007 1/9/2008 1/9/2008 135 1/9/2008

Acsah & 5/1/2007 5/24/2007 6/5/2007 6/7/2007 1/9/2008 1/9/2008 216 2/18/2008

Jaser & 6/2/2007 6/6/2007 7/27/2007 7/28/2007 1/9/2008 1/9/2008 165 2/11/2008

Kamal 5/18/2007 6/20/2007 6/21/2007 7/7/2007 1/8/2008 1/8/2008 185 1/12/2008

N. & M 6/27/2007 7/7/2007 7/14/2007 7/19/2007 12/28/2007 12/28/2007 162 12/29/2007

GM & PM 6/28/2007 7/12/2007 8/6/2007 12/19/2007 12/19/2007 135 2/25/2008

mari & 7/5/2007 7/13/2007 7/27/2007 8/16/2007 12/18/2007 12/3/2007 124 2/15/2008

Waleed & 6/6/2007 6/18/2007 7/17/2007 7/23/2007 12/14/2007 12/14/2007 144 2/4/2008

A & G 6/22/2007 7/6/2007 7/18/2007 8/8/2007 12/14/2007 12/14/2007 128 2/17/2008

DILI & JR 4/24/2007 5/24/2007 5/31/2007 6/4/2007 12/13/2007 12/13/2007 192 12/14/2007

Wendy & John4/26/2007 5/22/2007 5/28/2007 6/28/2007 12/13/2007 12/13/2007 168 2/25/2008

Farah & Tar 4/12/2007 6/14/2007 6/25/2007 12/13/2007 12/13/2007 171 2/6/2008

mari & jody 7/5/2007 7/13/2007 7/27/2007 8/16/2007 12/12/2007 12/3/2007 118 1/9/2008

Mari & 7/12/2007 7/26/2007 7/27/2007 8/10/2007 12/11/2007 12/11/2007 123 1/28/2008

Predrag & 7/3/2007 7/13/2007 7/20/2007 7/26/2007 12/10/2007 12/10/2007 137 2/21/2008

elisa & ke 6/1/2007 6/14/2007 7/22/2007 7/25/2007 12/10/2007 12/10/2007 138 1/19/2008

my love & 6/15/2007 7/26/2007 7 /26/2007 8/14/2007 12/7/2007 12/7/2007 115 2/22/2008

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there is a more current list. I left out the oldy, but goody. Those are the people that remember how it was really done. *wink

it is difficult to cut and past in this message box, so I created an image out of the test.

enjoy

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Calamitka

There are a couple of people that sent the I-129F in August so how would they have receipt or priority date from July?

It's Awednumi and GP & PM.

Are you looking at the colums of when the I-129 was sent or the I-130?

Yes you absolutly righ there are TWO exemptions.Not cuple of people, TWO exemptions.

Of course I'm looking at I-129 sending dates .

But below I'm quoting what Lurking said in post 5

LURKING SAID:

Yes, 13 I129F/K3 petitions have been approved per VJ users. As late as NOA1 dated August 29th.

I tried to show that this statement is not fully correct because on NOA1 there is two dates priority and notice. Priority is closer to sending dates and per USCIS they going by PRIORITY dates.

That's all.

Don't kill the messenger. Do you think I'm happy with this uncertain K3 situation? Remember my husband applied for K3 but it was administ. closed. No we haven't received any letter about cancellation.

Do we expecting any aproval of I-129? On the point where we are with my IR-1 now we don't care really. But this only because we are lucky and Poland embassy is fast, but I know there is so many NOT SO LUCKY like LURKING who need K3 so much. Therefore I really wish good luck and speedy aprovals.

Calamitka

There are a couple of people that sent the I-129F in August so how would they have receipt or priority date from July?

It's Awednumi and GP & PM.

Are you looking at the colums of when the I-129 was sent or the I-130?

Yes you absolutly righ there are TWO exemptions.Not cuple of people, TWO exemptions.

Of course I'm looking at I-129 sending dates .

But below I'm quoting what Lurking said in post 5

LURKING SAID:

Yes, 13 I129F/K3 petitions have been approved per VJ users. As late as NOA1 dated August 29th.

I tried to show that this statement is not fully correct because on NOA1 there is two dates priority and notice. Priority is closer to sending dates and per USCIS they going by PRIORITY dates.

That's all.

Don't kill the messenger. Do you think I'm happy with this uncertain K3 situation? Remember my husband applied for K3 but it was administ. closed. No we haven't received any letter about cancellation.

Do we expecting any aproval of I-129? On the point where we are with my IR-1 now we don't care really. But this only because we are lucky and Poland embassy is fast, but I know there is so many NOT SO LUCKY like LURKING who need K3 so much. Therefore I really wish good luck and speedy aprovals.

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Calamitka

There is actually four people that were approved in 2008 that filed in August, athough I stated a couple (which does equal two). I pray that more approvals for K-3 keep coming.

And by no means am I trying to shoot the messenger. You mentioned priority dates and all that and I thought maybe you were looking at a different column, no biggie.

At least some August approvals are in line with the USCIS posted priority dates. That is a bit of hope for all of us that are waiting for a K-3 approval.

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Hi, I list'd my name on VJ as grasshopper,actually it's gilberto and I'm doing K3 for my queen in Santo Domingo. I file I130 and had NOA1 in Aug 22 and hadn't been touch'd in 6 months, I contacted my Senators and represntvs and I got touch'd for both I130 and I29F on 2/27, wow! Praise God. I hope all Aug filers get their aprovals very soon.

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Grasshopper, when did you file 129f?

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Yes they are working on August as we speak. Yours will be approved very soon.

Hi, I list'd my name on VJ as grasshopper,actually it's gilberto and I'm doing K3 for my queen in Santo Domingo. I file I130 and had NOA1 in Aug 22 and hadn't been touch'd in 6 months, I contacted my Senators and represntvs and I got touch'd for both I130 and I29F on 2/27, wow! Praise God. I hope all Aug filers get their aprovals very soon.

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© Basic Principles for Handling Upset Applicants . Assess the situation. In most cases, by simply using good communication skills, you should be able to handle the situation by yourself. If necessary, however, call your supervisor. In a very small number of cases, an applicant may threaten you or become violent. In these cases, always seek immediate assistance, and follow your local office policy regarding these situations.

If possible, resolve the problem. In some cases, an applicant will be upset about a problem that you may be able to resolve. If you can resolve an applicant's problem consistent with the laws, regulations, and agency policies, do it. While there is no single answer to every possible problem, the following tips can help:

· Apologize . Depending on the circumstances, even if you are unsure about who exactly is responsible for the problem, you can sincerely apologize that the applicant was inconvenienced.

· Listen and empathize . This will enable you to determine exactly what happened and will demonstrate that you understand the applicant's position.

· Confirm that you understand the problem . Before you can fix a problem, make sure you understand it. Ask questions about anything you do not understand or need clarified. Then restate the problem back to the applicant to ensure that you have correctly understood the situation.

· Take appropriate steps to fix the problem . Depending on the nature of the problem, you may be able to fix the problem yourself or refer it to someone else. In either case, act as swiftly as possible on the matter. First review any available USCIS or DHS materials (e.g., the A-file, T-file, forms, and/or applications) that may shed light on the situation. If you are referring the applicant to another person, unit, or branch of DHS, if possible, first communicate with the other DHS personnel to ensure that they are available. \ 10

· Don't respond to rudeness with rudeness . If an applicant speaks rudely to you, you must still respond professionally. While responding with rudeness might make you feel good at the time, it will only escalate the situation and will not help you successfully complete the interview.

· Don't take an applicant's behavior personally . In some cases, an applicant will be angry with the USCIS in general or frustrated about something that has nothing to do with you or the situation. Taking something personally can often escalate the conflict, rather than help resolve the situation. The following example illustrates how not to take something personally vs. taking something personally.

Applicant: I can't believe this is taking so long! Why can't you speed this up?

C Not taking it personally

Officer: I understand that this process can take a long time.

D Taking it personally

Officer: It's not my fault!

· Avo id defensiveness . While you should always provide the applicant with as much information as possible to help calm a tense situation, a defensive manner will only worsen the problem. The following example illustrates a non-defensive vs. a defensive response.

Applicant : I can't believe I am going to have to come back for another interview!

C Non-defensive response

Officer: I understand that you don't want to come back here, but under the law, your application cannot be approved until you can establish that you and Ms. Smith are married.

D Defensive Response

Officer : I don't care if you want to come back here or not, but I can't approve your application unless you can establish that you are married to Ms. Smith.

· Stay under control . If you allow an applicant to upset you or allow prejudices to influence you, you will lose control of the interview. If an applicant says something that upsets you, don't take it personally; instead, remain calm and respond in a professional manner. Keep the interview focused on the task at hand. If you lose your control, the interview can quickly degenerate. The following provides acceptable and unacceptable ways of controlling the interview.

C Acceptable ways of controlling the interview

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D Unacceptable ways of controlling the interview

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· Listen . Active, empathetic, and focused listening will help you determine exactly what the problem is and how you can respond to it. In some cases, simply giving someone an opportunity to vent his/her frustration can help calm the situation. The following listening techniques are often effective.

· Empathize . Empathy demonstrates that you have listened to the applicant and understand his/her feelings and point of view. It doesn't require you to agree with the applicant's assessment of the situation. The following example illustrates an empathetic response vs. a hostile response.

A pplicant : "I can't believe I am going to have to provide so many documents. This is really difficult for me; I don't understand why you can't just adjudicate the application now!"

C Empathetic response :

Officer : "I understand that you need to provide a lot of information, but if you can provide me with the documentation that establishes that you and Ms. Smith have been married for three years, then I can make a determination about your application."

D Hostile response :

Officer: "Tough. That's your problem, not mine!"

· Restate the problem . A good way to demonstrate that you have heard and understood the applicant is to restate his/her problem.

· Ask questions . When you're not clear exactly why an applicant is frustrated, ask questions that provide him/her with an opportunity to explain his/her situation.

· Use selective agreement . When an applicant is upset about something, selective agreement can be a good technique to calm the situation. It not only allows the applicant to vent and shows you are listening but also keeps the interview on track. The following example contrasts selective agreement with complete agreement and a hostile response.

Applicant : "I can't believe I had to wait 11 months for this interview. That's too long!"

C Selective Agreement

Officer : "I agree. Eleven months is a long time to wait for an interview, but now you are here. If it's acceptable to you, I would like to get started on your interview."

D Complete Agreement

Officer: "You're right, that is too long. You wouldn't believe how long some other people have had to wait!"

D Hostile Reaction

Officer: "Don't complain to me about how long this took! Do you want to do this interview now or not?"

· Provide clear explanations . In some cases, an applicant will be frustrated because he or she doesn't understand something about a particular aspect of the process or why you are asking a certain question. Always be willing to offer clear explanations that clarify an applicant's questions.

· Pay attention to your non-verbal and verbal communication . Especially during hostile situations, how you communicate­ both verbally and non-verbally­ can either escalate or calm the situation. Specifically, if your body language conveys that you are paying attention to the applicant and if your tone and language remain respectful, you help calm the situation.

· Seek voluntary compliance in the face of resistance . In some cases, an applicant may ask you questions about what you are doing or express frustration about a particular issue. First distinguish between reasonable and unreasonable resistance; in some cases, the applicant's questions are not preventing the interview from moving forward. In these cases, listen empathetically, and answer whatever questions you can while moving on with the interview. However, when the interview has clearly stalled, utilize the following framework for obtaining voluntary compli ance: \ 11

1. Ask . Politely ask for what you need. "Mr. Smith, could you please provide me with documentation establishing that you and Ms. Smith have been married for the past three years?"

2. Set the context . If your original request is denied, politely provide the legal, policy, and procedural reasons for your request. "Mr. Smith, under section 319 of the law, you are required to demonstrate that you and Ms. Smith have been legally married for the past three years before your application can be approved."

3. Politely explain the applicant's various options if he or she does, or does not, comply with your request . "Mr. Smith, it is your choice about whether to provide me with this documentation. However, if you can't provide me with documentation that establishes this aspect of your eligibility I can't make a favorable decision about your application. If you can provide me with documentation that establishes this aspect of your eligibility, then I can make a decision about your application."

4. Confirm and move on . Determine whether the applicant is going to comply with your request. Either way, you will continue with the interview.

5. Act . If you come to the end of the interview, give the applicant one last chance to provide the information. If he or she does not, politely provide the applicant with an N-14 letter (for naturalization cases) or other appropriate notice that requests the information in writing.

6. If necessary, take a break . If you have had a particularly difficult interview, take a couple of minutes to compose yourself before you begin your next interview.

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For many applicants, the entire application process is very stressful and filled with uncertainty. While your first duty is to make decisions based on the law, if you are courteous, professional and knowledgeable, you can help reduce some of the applicant's stress, help ensure a quality experience with the USCIS , and encourage the applicant to cooperate with you during the interview.

[pushbrk 12,824]

Yes they are working on August as we speak. Yours will be approved very soon.

Hi, I list'd my name on VJ as grasshopper,actually it's gilberto and I'm doing K3 for my queen in Santo Domingo. I file I130 and had NOA1 in Aug 22 and hadn't been touch'd in 6 months, I contacted my Senators and represntvs and I got touch'd for both I130 and I29F on 2/27, wow! Praise God. I hope all Aug filers get their aprovals very soon.

You cannot reliably assure anybody their petition will be approved at all, much less "soon". What is likely to happen soon is a petition filed in August will get an initial evaluation which could have any of several results, including but not limited to...

1. Approval

2. RFE

3. Rejection

4. Denial

5. Selected for detailed administrative processing

What will happen to any petition is somewhat more complicated than looking at NOA1 dates. Even setting aside 2, 4 and 5 above, one must evaluate where the case falls on the following menu as described in another thread.

Apples:

I-130 is filed followed by the I-129F within a month or two

Both petitions connected and approved same day

I-130 held and I-129F goes to NVC and beyond

Grapefruit:

I-130 is filed followed by the I-129F within a month or too

Both petitions connected and approved same day

I-130 goes to NVC and I-129F is administratively cancelled

Grape Juice:

I-130 is filed and approved before I-129F is filed

I-130 goes to NVC and beyond and I-129F is rejected

Apple pie:

I-130 is filed with service center

I-129F is filed with NBC (MSC) within a month or two

Petitions are adjudicated at separate centers independently

Each is approved independently, both are sent to NVC and beyond and they race to the Consulate

If K3 interview is before I-130 arrives, K3 wins the horse race, or CR1/IR1 does as the case may be

Peach Pie:

I-130 and I-129F filed too far apart to for the petitions to get married, so you end up the same as apple pie but it tastes like peaches because there's no more apple pie. Peach pie is an anomaly, never intended for the menu.

Apple pie stop being served after the November 2006 memo. http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/PN_i-129f.pdf

Raw apples took the place of sweet apple pie

Recently we've seen several reports that grapefruit has replaced apples on the menu for those making dinner reservations after July, 07 and dining in 2008.

I suppose there's also the bitter "Denial Gruel". It's not on the menu but available for special order to those served grape juice but insist there's no such thing. :-) We're all hoping their dream comes true and they are nourished well by the Denial Gruel.

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I suppose there's also the bitter "Denial Gruel". It's not on the menu but available for special order to those served grape juice but insist there's no such thing. :-) We're all hoping their dream comes true and they are nourished well by the Denial Gruel.

Pushbrk, it is called positive affirmation. You should try it some day, it truly works. I do not know who your god is, but through my GOD all things are possible. Ask and I shall receive. Say it and it shall be.

grasshopper, do not hope, people who do not have faith hope. expect, walk and talk with authority. Bask in his glory, because you have been granted this honor. Do not let the devil trick and play with your mind.

Your journey will be expidited and smooth. God bless you!

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Pushbrk

I hope you didn't come up with the analogies youself. That was a serious waste of time just to try to dissuade people to wish for the best.

I am so happy for you that your immigration journey is over and that all turned out well, we should all be so lucky. I'm sure that when you were going through the process people were wishing you the best and not hoping your process would hit bumps.

I know it's human nature to not always wish the best for our fellow man. Prayer has helped me overcome that, I recommend it to all.

God bless!

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Pushbrk

I hope you didn't come up with the analogies youself. That was a serious waste of time just to try to dissuade people to wish for the best.

I am so happy for you that your immigration journey is over and that all turned out well, we should all be so lucky. I'm sure that when you were going through the process people were wishing you the best and not hoping your process would hit bumps.

I know it's human nature to not always wish the best for our fellow man. Prayer has helped me overcome that, I recommend it to all.

God bless!

I am with you Justwaiting, Prayer has gotten me through this as well!!! My patience has just about left me but I have to be stronger for both my Husband and I. Trust me that's a lot of Pressure!!! LOL today sounds like a good wine day!!

Nita

[calamitka 0]

This is so unfair for PUSHBRK, is his mistake to try to show the difference between wishfull thinking and reality?

Some could call this affectionally

PEARLS OF WISDOM.

Not hope is wrong only DENYING reality.

The faith is understand the reality and still have a hope in God.

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Pushbrk

I hope you didn't come up with the analogies youself. That was a serious waste of time just to try to dissuade people to wish for the best.

I am so happy for you that your immigration journey is over and that all turned out well, we should all be so lucky. I'm sure that when you were going through the process people were wishing you the best and not hoping your process would hit bumps.

I know it's human nature to not always wish the best for our fellow man. Prayer has helped me overcome that, I recommend it to all.

God bless!

You severely misunderstand. I'm certain our journey was smoothed through His blessings but I also made as certain as possible, I had appropriate expectations all the way through. I believe in miracles but don't tempt Him by counting on them.

USCIS procedures and therefore the playing field have changed significantly since my wife arrived on a K3 visa. The advice I'm giving is the advice I would follow, if I were starting over today. It's different advice than I would have given and did give 3 months ago and vastly different, for some K3 hopefuls, than I would have given two years ago.

Right now, K3 is a quagmire I'd advise all new filers to avoid.

I wish all the members God speed and a smooth fast process but that process has to pass through human hands doing what their earthly boss tells them to do. As such, I think it's best to keep the reality in mind as we hope and pray for the best.

Sometimes the best result that's actually possible falls short of our hopes and dreams due to the actions of humans.

Yes, the analogies are mine. They serve to encourage those when circumstances warrant encouragement and to reset expectations for others.

For example, we recently had a poster discover late in the process that the best course of action for them was to withdraw their petition altogether. The circumstances were such that there was simply no chance the visa would be issued and proceding to the interview would severely limit the possibility of success of any "second chance". It must have tasted horrible and they were devastated but realistic expectations dictated their actions.

There are K3 hopefuls posting here that are wasting time sitting on CR1 visa processes in the slim or none hope their K3 process will win the day, even in the face of compelling (to me) evidence to the contrary. Shall I blow smoke into their unrealistic hopes to make them feel good, or advise them to whip the CR1/IR1 horse to best speed their happy reunion with their spouse?

You make your choice and I'll make mine. Ok?