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Is it so difficult to apologize-???
Is it so difficult to give up one's expectations for an internet forum poster that one has never met and is highly unlikely to ever meet?

Even so - again - why should an apologize should even be desired by an internet forum poster that one has never met and is highly unlikely to ever meet is completely beyond me. Such a desire has to be based in actually caring about what Satellite thinks. If you don't care what he thinks, then there is nothing to apologize for. If you DO care what he thinks, that's the problem of the person doing the caring - who may want to consider WHY he (or she) cares so much about what others think, let alone complete strangers whom one is never even likely to meet.

Note - the desire to facts and information from a knowledgable person is not the same as caring about what they think in general, let alone what they think about you as a person. It's perfectly reasonable not to care about their opinion about you, while still wanting useful information with which they may be able to provide to you.

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AKDiver

He didn't say he expects an apology, he said he hopes for an apology. I'm sorry you feel like you have to be the Grand Poobah of Smitiness, but if you really can't comprehend why anyone would care then fine, but don't keep wondering why anyone would care.

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...whose feelings he and his wife hurt and defend his position.
Feelings HE hurt? Since when is someone else responsible for YOUR feelings? Most people can't control their OWN feelings, let alone someone else's. People who claim that someone ELSE has hurt their feelings need to step up and take some responsibility for themselves instead of blaming others.

If you choose to be offended by what someone else says or does, how is that THEIR fault? It's up to you to step up and take responsibility for yourself. Simply choose NOT to be offended - and stop blaming others for what is going on inside that little head of yours.

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Come on, this is simply pathetic. :(

22 Jun 05 - We met in a tiny bar in Williamsburg, Va. (spent all summer together)

27 May 06 - Sasha comes back for a 2nd glorious summer (spent 8 months apart)

01 Jan 07 - Jason travels to Moscow for 2 weeks with Sasha

27 May 07 - Jason again travels to Moscow for 2 weeks of perfection

14 July 07 - I-129F and all related documents sent to VSC

16 July 07 - I-129F delivered to VSC and signed for by P. Novak

20 July 07 - NOA1 issued / receipt number assigned

27 Sep 07 - Jason travels to Moscow to be with Sasha for 2 weeks

28 Nov 07 - NOA2 issued...TOUCHED!...then...APPROVED!!!

01 Dec 07 - NVC receives/assigns case #

04 Dec 07 - NVC sends case to U.S. Embassy Moscow

26 Dec 07 - Jason visits Sasha in Russia for the 4th and final time of 2007 :)

22 Feb 08 - Moscow Interview! (APPROVED!!!)..Yay!

24 Mar 08 - Sasha and Jason reunite in the U.S. :)

31 May 08 - Married

29 Dec 08- Alexander is born

11 Jan 10 - AOS / AP / EAD package sent

19 Jan 10 - AOS NOA1 / AP NOA1 / EAD NOA1

08 Feb 10 - AOS case transferred to CSC

16 Mar 10 - AP received

16 Mar 10 - AOS approved

19 Mar 10 - EAD received

22 Mar 10 - GC received

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if you really can't comprehend why anyone would care then fine, but don't keep wondering why anyone would care.
Why not? Oh wait, let me guess, maybe it offends you...

Cheers!

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PEOPLE: READ THE APPLICATION FORM INSTRUCTIONS!!!! They have a lot of good information in them! Most of the questions I see on VJ are clearly addressed by the form instructions. Give them a read!! If you are unable to understand the form instructions, I highly recommend hiring someone who does to help you with the process. Our process, from K-1 to Citizenship and U.S. Passport is completed. Good luck with your process.

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Akdiver, we all have a choice how to react to boorish behavior (ХАМСТВО): some shrug and walk away and some give the boor a smack on the nose. If you prefer to walk away, that's entirely your business. If others feel it necessary to deliver a few smacks, it's THEIR business and none of yours.

And yes, it is kinda fun to see if inability to apologize is indeed exclusive to the Russians, as Slim suggests. Morbid curiosity, if you will. :whistle:

Aug 2003 first icebreaker ;-)

2003 - 2006 letters, letters, letters

Aug 2006 met at regatta in Greece

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08/06/2007 NOA-2, 118 days from the 1st notice.

10/24/2007 Interview in Moscow, visa approved

12/06/2007 Entered at JFK, got EAD stamp.

01/25/2008 Married in St. Augustine, FL

02/19/2008 AOS package mailed

09/30/2008 AOS interview - APPROVED!

10/11/2008 Green card in the mail

01/14/2009 Our little girl, Fiona Elizabeth, was born on Jan. 14, 2009 :-)

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If others feel it necessary to deliver a few smacks
Wow - such violence. Lots of people in jail for deciding to "deliver a few smacks".

I guess it's just the difference between choosing to control oneself and trying to control others.

Cheers!

AKDiver

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PEOPLE: READ THE APPLICATION FORM INSTRUCTIONS!!!! They have a lot of good information in them! Most of the questions I see on VJ are clearly addressed by the form instructions. Give them a read!! If you are unable to understand the form instructions, I highly recommend hiring someone who does to help you with the process. Our process, from K-1 to Citizenship and U.S. Passport is completed. Good luck with your process.

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OMG! This is getting so damn ridiculous. We have to meet and have real relationships in order to expect any sort of humanity from people now! It's okay to say whatever. After all this is only an internet forum filled with cyber people. I guess we all have virtual feelings now. Just log off and all will be okay!

Now I should just chose to not be offended. Right...

Jeffery AND Alla.

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Last time I looked we were all loved up. Now look what's happened!! ;)

I keep popping back to see if there are in fact any Russian's willing to attest (other than Sat and his missus of course) to being arrogant and heartless. We were told this is fact. We're still waiting for volunteers...

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OMG! This is getting so damn ridiculous. We have to meet and have real relationships in order to expect any sort of humanity from people now! It's okay to say whatever. After all this is only an internet forum filled with cyber people. I guess we all have virtual feelings now. Just log off and all will be okay!
I think I was unclear - and if so, I apologize.

I'll try to clarify - my position is the same whether someone says a bunch of awful things to you in an internet forum, or directly to your face. You can be offended if you choose to be - if you choose to give credence to what they have to say, if you choose to care what they think about you. In making such choices, it is unreasonable to blame someone else for your feelings that result. The alternative is to choose NOT to care what they think about you. In this case, it doesn't matter what they say, when they say it, or how they communicate the message to you. In all instances, in then becomes very difficult to be offended by what gets said.

Now I should just chose to not be offended.
An excellent solution!

I keep popping back to see if there are in fact any Russian's willing to attest (other than Sat and his missus of course) to being arrogant and heartless. We were told this is fact. We're still waiting for volunteers...
Why?

Cheers!

AKDiver

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PEOPLE: READ THE APPLICATION FORM INSTRUCTIONS!!!! They have a lot of good information in them! Most of the questions I see on VJ are clearly addressed by the form instructions. Give them a read!! If you are unable to understand the form instructions, I highly recommend hiring someone who does to help you with the process. Our process, from K-1 to Citizenship and U.S. Passport is completed. Good luck with your process.

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I keep popping back to see if there are in fact any Russian's willing to attest (other than Sat and his missus of course) to being arrogant and heartless. We were told this is fact. We're still waiting for volunteers...
Why?

Cheers!

AKDiver

Why do you?

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Reminds me of all the times a fine, upstanding Christian person would take the time to inform me that I am going to burn in hell for all eternity unless I give myself over to god (yes, told this many times). Now, this is a pretty serious warning, with dire consequences. Did I choose to be offended, or even concerned? Well, no, not really. The response was more like, "wow? really? Geez! Thanks for letting me know!"

I keep popping back to see if there are in fact any Russian's willing to attest (other than Sat and his missus of course) to being arrogant and heartless. We were told this is fact. We're still waiting for volunteers...
Why?
Why do you?
I'm not...

Cheers!

AKDiver

Edited by akdiver

PEOPLE: READ THE APPLICATION FORM INSTRUCTIONS!!!! They have a lot of good information in them! Most of the questions I see on VJ are clearly addressed by the form instructions. Give them a read!! If you are unable to understand the form instructions, I highly recommend hiring someone who does to help you with the process. Our process, from K-1 to Citizenship and U.S. Passport is completed. Good luck with your process.

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AKDiver, did you see what just happened? Within minutes you and I are back on terms. I only consider Sat could have followed suit. :)

OMG! This is getting so damn ridiculous. We have to meet and have real relationships in order to expect any sort of humanity from people now! It's okay to say whatever. After all this is only an internet forum filled with cyber people. I guess we all have virtual feelings now. Just log off and all will be okay!
I think I was unclear - and if so, I apologize.

I'll try to clarify - my position is the same whether someone says a bunch of awful things to you in an internet forum, or directly to your face. You can be offended if you choose to be - if you choose to give credence to what they have to say, if you choose to care what they think about you. In making such choices, it is unreasonable to blame someone else for your feelings that result. The alternative is to choose NOT to care what they think about you. In this case, it doesn't matter what they say, when they say it, or how they communicate the message to you. In all instances, in then becomes very difficult to be offended by what gets said.

Now I should just chose to not be offended.
An excellent solution!

Cheers!

AKDiver

Jeffery AND Alla.

0 kilometers physically separates us!

K-1 Visa Granted... Wednesday, 21 May 2008

Alla ARRIVED to America... Wednesday, 12 November 2008

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Reminds me of all the times a fine, upstanding Christian person would take the time to inform me that I am going to burn in hell for all eternity unless I give myself over to god (yes, told this many times). Now, this is a pretty serious warning, with dire consequences. Did I choose to be offended, or even concerned? Well, no, not really. The response was more like, "wow? really? Geez! Thanks for letting me know!"

I keep popping back to see if there are in fact any Russian's willing to attest (other than Sat and his missus of course) to being arrogant and heartless. We were told this is fact. We're still waiting for volunteers...
Why?
Why do you?
I'm not...

Cheers!

AKDiver

Well for someone who's posted as much as you have in the last half hour I would suggest that you are being somewhat contradictory. For someone who doesn't care your fingers have been working pretty fast. Unless of course it is your aim to prove yourself right and everyone else wrong. That could be your aim.

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AKDiver, did you see what just happened? Within minutes you and I are back on terms. I only consider Sat could have followed suit. :)
Don't get too excited. I was merely choosing polite discourse, with a dash of sarcasm and few sprinkles of humour. (:

Well for someone who's posted as much as you have in the last half hour I would suggest that you are being somewhat contradictory. For someone who doesn't care your fingers have been working pretty fast. Unless of course it is your aim to prove yourself right and everyone else wrong. That could be your aim.
Gotta pay better attention there babs. In my first post in this thread, I indicated my interest in this thread is purely entertainment. Beats what's on TV, that's for sure.

Unless of course it is your aim to prove yourself right and everyone else wrong. That could be your aim.
Along the lines of the argument I've been making - it really doesn't matter to me if you recognize the correctness of my argument or not. In fact, if you don't, it's all the more entertaining - so argue and insult at your leisure, please.

Cheers!

AKDiver

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PEOPLE: READ THE APPLICATION FORM INSTRUCTIONS!!!! They have a lot of good information in them! Most of the questions I see on VJ are clearly addressed by the form instructions. Give them a read!! If you are unable to understand the form instructions, I highly recommend hiring someone who does to help you with the process. Our process, from K-1 to Citizenship and U.S. Passport is completed. Good luck with your process.

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Well for someone who's posted as much as you have in the last half hour I would suggest that you are being somewhat contradictory. For someone who doesn't care your fingers have been working pretty fast. Unless of course it is your aim to prove yourself right and everyone else wrong. That could be your aim.
Gotta pay better attention there babs. In my first post in this thread, I indicated my interest in this thread is purely entertainment. Beats what's on TV, that's for sure.

Cheers!

AKDiver

This 'babs' stuff is getting rather endearing. It really is. I thought you told us all we should find something better to do. But it's cool the way you're keeping the thread moving for the rest of us.

Cheers!

I don't recall insulting you. Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

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