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Going over the instructions of the I-134 I see no place that says you need to send tax records.. only if your self-employed..

So why do people include them ?? Is it just doing an overkill ??

I figured..I'd include the two items the pertain to me..

A. Bank Statement

B. Employment Letter

and as I bonus... I'll include the last 90 days worth of pay stubs from this job..and the last one for the job before that..because it shows year to date.. So they know how much I make per year..

So help me understand.... Why Tax Records if they aren't asked for...

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The Embassy only refers you back to what the I-134 calls for..

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They prove that your income is above the 125% poverty line, in the case of Non-Immigrant K visas they tend to use the evidence rules that are on the I-864 forms, due to the immigrant intent of the visa, and tax returns are required for I-864 forms.

It is also specified on forms DS-2000, or OF-167 included in packet 3 (Evidence Which May Be Presented to Meet the Public Charge Provisions of the Law)

To substantiate the information regarding income and resources the sponsor should attached two or more of the following items to the affidavit.
  • notarized copies of his or her latest federal income tax return;
  • a statement from his or her employer showing salary and the length and permanency of employment;
  • a statement from an officer of a bank regarding his or her account, the date the account was opened and the present balance;
  • any other evidence adequate to establish financial ability to carry out his or her undertaking toward the applicant for what might be an indefinite period of time.

http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_new/visa/iv/faffidavit.html

Be aware I-134 is used for more than just K visas, and the others, are truly temporary visas like visitor, student, and are less demanding about financial documentation than K visas.

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Dear Chris,

Normally, the US Embassy in Bucharest requires the tax returns at the interview for the K1 visa. But there are situations in which people cannot show the above-mentioned document. I, therefore, advise you to email the Embassy (Immigrant Visa Unit > email address: visasbucharest@state.gov) so as to get a written answer regarding what you should do. It would be wise for you to save and print this answer so your fiancee can show it at the interview if the need arises. God bless!

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Ok good points.. I have been in contact with them.. and they advise me they use the 100% level for the Romanian Embassy..

Well I'll just need to work on my Co-Sponser instead of walking this thin tight rope :) .. It's just asking someone to sponser is very hard because of all the personal info they have to include.. SSN's...Tax forms..etc..

They prove that your income is above the 125% poverty line, in the case of Non-Immigrant K visas they tend to use the evidence rules that are on the I-864 forms, due to the immigrant intent of the visa, and tax returns are required for I-864 forms.

It is also specified on forms DS-2000, or OF-167 included in packet 3 (Evidence Which May Be Presented to Meet the Public Charge Provisions of the Law)

To substantiate the information regarding income and resources the sponsor should attached two or more of the following items to the affidavit.
  • notarized copies of his or her latest federal income tax return;
  • a statement from his or her employer showing salary and the length and permanency of employment;
  • a statement from an officer of a bank regarding his or her account, the date the account was opened and the present balance;
  • any other evidence adequate to establish financial ability to carry out his or her undertaking toward the applicant for what might be an indefinite period of time.

http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_new/visa/iv/faffidavit.html

Be aware I-134 is used for more than just K visas, and the others, are truly temporary visas like visitor, student, and are less demanding about financial documentation than K visas.

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1/25 Recieved notice that She needs to pick up my packet in Chisinau..

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It is the public charge issue which is applicable to those applying for a K visa. The I-134 is not a requirement for K visas. However it is often used by many consulates as ONE thing that a conof may use to determine if the applicant will or won't become a public charge. Hence why other documentation aside from what is in the I-134 instructions is usually required.

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Chris-n-Veronica,

Because I-134 does not define what is required to meet the public charge provisions of the law - DS-2000 (formerly OF-167) does. I-134 itself is not a requirement, it's optional at the discretion of the consular officer. A sponsor is not even a requirement for a K visa if the visa applicant has sufficient funds of their own.

If your consulate is satisfied with what I-134 asks for and nothing more, fine - it's their decision to make.

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Going over the instructions of the I-134 I see no place that says you need to send tax records.. only if your self-employed..

So why do people include them ?? Is it just doing an overkill ??

.....

So help me understand.... Why Tax Records if they aren't asked for...

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The Embassy only refers you back to what the I-134 calls for..

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chrisnveronica,

I understand what you mean, when you say about including the personal information for your co-sponsor.

I'm planning on crossing off with a permament marker, the SSN# and the account number from bank statements, etc. from all of my forms and my co-sponsors forms. I mean, I don't think that should be a problem right. Why do they have to know this personal information at the consulate? Aussiewench or yodrak, what do you think? Is it okay I cross of such personal info?

chrisnveronica,

I understand what you mean, when you say about including the personal information for your co-sponsor.

I'm planning on crossing off with a permament marker, the SSN# and the account number from bank statements, etc. from all of my forms and my co-sponsors forms. I mean, I don't think that should be a problem right. Why do they have to know this personal information at the consulate? Aussiewench or yodrak, what do you think? Is it okay I cross off such personal info?

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I'm asking more about my co-sponsor's info. Do they really need his social sec. # at the consulate stage? I mean, I will be submitting tax info. from my co-sponsor with his SS# and all of his dependents SS#'s, which I don't think should be a problem if I cross off with a marker.

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06/21/06: Submitted I-129F to the CSC

10/18/06: NOA2 DATE

01/29/07: MEDICAL IN CDJ

01/30/07: INTERVIEW in CDJ **My fiance receives his visa**

03/31/07-04/08/07: I leave to Mexico and bring back my fiance

04/08/07: U.S. ENTRY at LAX

04/23/07: Married in Vegas

* * * * * * * *AOS, AP, & EAD * * * * * * * * * *

05/24/07: Submitted AOS, AP, EAD

06/01/07: NOA1 for AOS & EAD, NOA1 for AP missing, but they received forms

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06/23/07: RFE for I-864 paperwork

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08/24-08/30: Spend our honeymoon in Acapulco, Mexico

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chrisnveronica,

I understand what you mean, when you say about including the personal information for your co-sponsor.

I'm planning on crossing off with a permament marker, the SSN# and the account number from bank statements, etc. from all of my forms and my co-sponsors forms. I mean, I don't think that should be a problem right. Why do they have to know this personal information at the consulate? Aussiewench or yodrak, what do you think? Is it okay I cross off such personal info?

I think his comment was in response to the above........

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Has anyone else crossed off personal information from their co-sponsors forms (SS# on taxes, SS# from dependents listed on taxes, account # from bank), and had a problem with this?

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06/21/06: Submitted I-129F to the CSC

10/18/06: NOA2 DATE

01/29/07: MEDICAL IN CDJ

01/30/07: INTERVIEW in CDJ **My fiance receives his visa**

03/31/07-04/08/07: I leave to Mexico and bring back my fiance

04/08/07: U.S. ENTRY at LAX

04/23/07: Married in Vegas

* * * * * * * *AOS, AP, & EAD * * * * * * * * * *

05/24/07: Submitted AOS, AP, EAD

06/01/07: NOA1 for AOS & EAD, NOA1 for AP missing, but they received forms

06/06/07: TOUCHED (AOS, AP, EAD)

06/23/07: RFE for I-864 paperwork

07/03/07: Biometrics for AOS & EAD

07/03/07: TOUCHED (EAD)

07/07/07: Submitted response to RFE

07/18/07: TOUCHED (AOS) They received RFE response

08/08/07: AP APPROVED

08/10/07: EAD APPROVED

10/17/07: AOS interview in Los Angeles -- APPROVED, pending name check :(

02/08/08: Name check has cleared, Notice welcoming new resident is mailed out

02/12/08: Card Production ordered, woohoo

02/15/08: Notice welcoming new resident is received

02/21/08: GREEN CARD IN HAND

08/23/08: After 7 years together . . . Religious wedding ceremony and HUGE PARTY in Jalisco, Mexico (we deserve it)

08/24-08/30: Spend our honeymoon in Acapulco, Mexico

Link to video clip of our wedding: http://www.youtube.com/user/dstradaproducc...f/1/wHiId9HZVRc

Nov. 2009: File to Remove Conditions

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